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Old 09-13-2012, 11:15 PM   #101
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I don't know to be flattered or insulted.

All I do is ask challenge some of the BS put out on here. Like your thread about monetising shooting content. For a guy with skills, it's no problem. for a newbie, it could work. Odds are high it won't work. Hard work is the easy bit. If all it took in this business was hard work, people wouldn't be leaving in droves.
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Which illegal tube sites are owned by Manwin I keep hearing about but have not seen them listed? I am just curious
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Which illegal tube sites are owned by Manwin I keep hearing about but have not seen them listed? I am just curious
Pornhub.com
youporn.com
tube8.com
pornMD.com
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keezmovies.com
xtube.com
extremetube.com
gaytube.com

go to pornhub.com and they list them all at the very top.
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Pornhub.com
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go to pornhub.com and they list them all at the very top.
Precisely what is illegal about them?
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Precisely what is illegal about them?
Oh, Snap! Paul is baiting.......
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If they are smart they wont ever go public.
If they are smart, they will go public as soon as it is reasonable to do so and take the money and run. Build it and then go public and get rid of your own stock while the gettin' is good and move on to the next thing.
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I have come to the realization that Fabian isn't very smart at all...the people pulling his strings, are a different story.
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Old 09-15-2012, 01:34 PM   #111
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Oh, Snap! Paul is baiting.......
You made an accusation you can't back up.

They, as far as can be proved, comply to DMCAs. Until you have proof otherwise, proof that will make you millions, they are legal. Unless the innocent until proven otherwise doesn't apply to Manwin.

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Unless I'm wrong it will open the lid on a very tightly locked box.
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You made an accusation you can't back up.
Actually I didn't. I misread his question and just saw asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. And everyone knows they're are all strictly "user uploaded videos". Don't get your granny panties in a bunch.
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Actually I didn't. I misread his question and just saw asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. And everyone knows they're are all strictly "user uploaded videos". Don't get your granny panties in a bunch.
OK. My granny knickers are untwisting as I read this.
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Pornhub.com
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xtube.com
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go to pornhub.com and they list them all at the very top.
Thanks for the list HushMoney. I take it they are illegal because they post full scenes from other companies without the company's consent? Sorry, not trying to step into the hornet's nest as I know it's a touchy subject when it comes to illegal tubes. But I assume that when someone refers to illegal tube sites, it's because the site has full scenes of another's company videos without the company's consent under the premise of "user submitted videos"?

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Thanks for the list HushMoney. I take it they are illegal because they post full scenes from other companies without the company's consent? Sorry, not trying to step into the hornet's nest as I know it's a touchy subject when it comes to illegal tubes. But I assume that when someone refers to illegal tube sites, it's because the site has full scenes of another's company videos without the company's consent under the premise of "user submitted videos"?

I misread your question and just saw you asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. Sorry for the confusion.
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Holy shit, they got his name censored? Hmm, strange... anyways, this is him: http://bit.ly/RGR688
Love the censored names, probably just a coincidence.
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I misread your question and just saw you asking what tubes they own. I wasn't claiming they were illegal. Sorry for the confusion.
I know the whole "illegal" part is a touchy subject because of potential litigation complications so I understand what you mean about misreading my question. Let me word my question a different way. If "someone" was running an illegal tube site, is it because the illegal tube site has full scenes of another's company videos without the company's consent under the premise of "user submitted videos"?
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I have come to the realization that Fabian isn't very smart at all...the people pulling his strings, are a different story.
The front man, or company scarecrow, does not need to be. It's not his check book.

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Fabian Thylmann has risen in a short time the most powerful entrepreneurs in the Internet Porn: His company Manwin revolutionized the business with the digital sex - with questionable methods. By Florian Flade and Lars-Marten nail

The most powerful group in the global porn business resides in Luxembourg, in a simple office building of glass and concrete. "Manwin" stands at the mailbox and sign at the entrance to the fourth floor. The company's name is virtually unknown outside the industry.

Of the sites Youporn, Pornhub or My Dirty Hobby but almost everyone has heard. Or they looked. There you see every day at 55 million porn film. In the digital world Manwin is a sex empire with 1.3 billion clicks a day.

Out of the office on the fourth floor Manwin employees can have large windows on the Boulevard Royal and forty feet deep gorge of Pétrusse valley overlook. But apparently no one enjoys the view. Behind the glass door, the reception is orphaned, some cardboard boxes standing around, cables hanging from the wall, at the desks still sticking price tags. The head, a 34 year old German, is not to be found. "Always nobody there," said a Chinese woman who works at a bank on the ground floor.

More than 100 million euros per year
The empty head office is not the only mysterious to Manwin. Mysterious is the boss. The Porn King likes to wear hooded sweatshirt and jeans, even at business meetings. His name is Fabian Thylmann. Photos on the Internet have a slightly overweight man with bubenhaftem face and glasses. He looks like a student in an advanced semester. He should be shy, lives in Belgium. But he comes from Aachen.

On paper, Fabian Thylmann is the sole master of the digital sex empire Manwin. According to documents of the Luxembourg Trade Register, he is CEO and sole shareholder of the holding company, which is to conduct of this office in Luxembourg of a network of subsidiaries.

There are large offices in Montreal and Hamburg. Smaller offices in Los Angeles, London, Cyprus. At many locations around 1000 people are employed, and the trend: rising fast. Industry analysts estimate the turnover of Manwin group of more than 100 million euros a year.

The programmer to sex tycoon
The story of Fabian Thylmann is that of an astonishing rise. At first glance, it has something of the rags-to-riches cliché: A small computer programmer from the Rhine Province, it brings in just five years, the most powerful sex tycoon of the Western world. Much in Thylmanns CV Stars recalls other entrepreneurs in the digital age. On Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg, the Google founders Larry Page and Sergey Brin, or even an Apple icon Steve Jobs.

They have all used the Internet for developing a unique business idea - and deserves so billion. In public, they love to play the nice boy next door in jeans and T-shirt. As business people, they are however all the tricks - determined and assertive. Thylmann could fit into the series of these visionaries . Only in one respect he is different. The others with Facebook, Google, or Apple technology satisfies needs of the people, of whom nobody knew in advance that it would give them time.

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Damn! $362 million investment from mysterious places.......this is gonna make a great movie some day (or at least a good episode of "American Greed on CNBC)
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One does not simply give someone else 362 million dollars through US brokers without there being a paper trail as to who that money came from. If someone looked hard enough, they could find it.
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IF it came from U.S. brokers.
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IF it came from U.S. brokers.
Assuming the story is accurate, one of them said a Delaware broker was used for the "loan," which means wherever the money came from, it came through the USA, which means there is a perfect paper trail of it. And almost $400 million... you can bet those funds were triple verified to make sure they were not funding terrorism somewhere.

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Assuming the story is accurate, one of them said a Delaware broker was used for the "loan," which means wherever the money came from, it came through the USA, which means there is a perfect paper trail of it. And almost $400 million... you can bet those funds were triple verified to make sure they were not funding terrorism somewhere.
Correct.

Most U.S. banks will call you to confirm large dollar amounts. You will need to provide some documentation for Patriot Act or whatever banking laws they would like to hide beyond for being nosey. In short, there is bank/IRS documentation of some kind, somewhere.
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Where does that information come from?
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Assuming the story is accurate, one of them said a Delaware broker was used for the "loan," which means wherever the money came from, it came through the USA, which means there is a perfect paper trail of it. And almost $400 million... you can bet those funds were triple verified to make sure they were not funding terrorism somewhere.
There was an article a few years ago showing that the US was the easiest place to launder money.
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Most U.S. banks will call you to confirm large dollar amounts. You will need to provide some documentation for Patriot Act or whatever banking laws they would like to hide beyond for being nosey. In short, there is bank/IRS documentation of some kind, somewhere.
Yes, anything over $10,000. So I'm sure nearly $400 million grabbed a few eye balls and had to fill out a few forms.

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Don't question that for a second.
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Too bad for Manwin that they lost out to Hustler in their quest to enter the stock market through the back door, when they were outbid recently for New Frontier Media (NOOF).

Given Fabian's new legal woes with the German tax authorities, I imagine that whatever thoughts Manwin may have had about doing an IPO are pretty much dashed now.



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