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|  09-03-2012, 05:25 PM | #1 | 
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				 |  Is Genetically Modified Wheat Making People Fat? Modern wheat a "perfect, chronic poison," doctor says Davis said that the wheat we eat these days isn't the wheat your grandma had: "It's an 18-inch tall plant created by genetic research in the '60s and '70s," he said on "CBS This Morning." "This thing has many new features nobody told you about, such as there's a new protein in this thing called gliadin. It's not gluten. I'm not addressing people with gluten sensitivities and celiac disease. I'm talking about everybody else because everybody else is susceptible to the gliadin protein that is an opiate. This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite, such that we consume 440 more calories per day, 365 days per year." Asked if the farming industry could change back to the grain it formerly produced, Davis said it could, but it would not be economically feasible because it yields less per acre. However, Davis said a movement has begun with people turning away from wheat - and dropping substantial weight. "If three people lost eight pounds, big deal," he said. "But we're seeing hundreds of thousands of people losing 30, 80, 150 pounds. Diabetics become no longer diabetic; people with arthritis having dramatic relief. People losing leg swelling, acid reflux, irritable bowel syndrome, depression, and on and on every day." continues here... http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505269_1...ays/?tag=stack | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:26 PM | #2 | 
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				 | you are fat because you eat a lot.......of everything | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:30 PM | #3 | 
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				 | no, you are fat because you eat a lot, sit a lot and don't exercise (i admit, i do the same) | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:31 PM | #4 | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:32 PM | #5 | 
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				 | Whatever it's doing it won't be good   
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|  09-03-2012, 05:33 PM | #6 | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:36 PM | #7 | 
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				 | If GMO food would be banned the whole world could have a big party 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:51 PM | #8 | 
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|  09-03-2012, 05:54 PM | #9 | 
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				 | Obama supports GMO foods and Monsanto. They are a huge donator to his campaign. Monsanto owns Obama. 
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|  09-03-2012, 06:01 PM | #10 | 
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				 | "This thing binds into the opiate receptors in your brain and in most people stimulates appetite" Well, lol. We put spices all the time to our food to blind the brain and increase the appetite. If you don't like it, just eat it raw without spices. You'll see how much you're really able to eat and need the food. | 
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|  09-03-2012, 06:04 PM | #11 | |
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 Search Bush Administration and Monsanto ties, and you'll see nothing much has changed. I would like to see tons of status quo changes, but unlimited political money slows down sensible progress. Nothing happens overnight. | |
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|  09-06-2012, 02:38 PM | #12 | 
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|  09-06-2012, 02:48 PM | #13 | 
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				 | Genetically modified foods DO NOT YIELD INCREASED CROPS... http://www.scientificamerican.com/po...-feed-09-04-16 | 
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|  09-06-2012, 03:03 PM | #14 | 
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				 | i'd say eating too much is what makes people fat... 
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|  09-06-2012, 03:25 PM | #15 | 
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				 | Most people don't even realize how much they're overeating.  Or the HUGE excess amount of calories they consume from things like soda and beer. 
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|  09-06-2012, 05:36 PM | #16 | 
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				 | Just don't eat it then   
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|  09-06-2012, 06:29 PM | #18 | 
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|  09-06-2012, 06:36 PM | #19 | 
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				 | no genetically altered food and no fructose corn syrup (or how the fuck that stuff is called) over here. and less obesity. super sized meals dont help either 
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|  09-06-2012, 06:37 PM | #20 | 
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				 | I wonder what real food tasted like. | 
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|  09-06-2012, 06:43 PM | #21 | 
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				 | Or eating habits paired with lack of physical activity.   But ya must be the wheat lol | 
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|  09-06-2012, 06:44 PM | #22 | 
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				 | Eating more calories than you burn makes you fat. Nothing else. Would be nice if all the fucking idiots of the world would start embracing that fact instead of looking for somewhere to lay blame for their own gluttony. 
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|  09-07-2012, 01:16 AM | #23 | 
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				 | The problem is recent. Up to 1980 we rarely saw a fat person. Now we see them everywhere. Young Czech people in the last 10 years have also put on a lot of weight. | 
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|  09-07-2012, 01:21 AM | #24 | 
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|  09-07-2012, 01:22 AM | #25 | 
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|  09-07-2012, 01:25 AM | #26 | |
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     I admit it... I'm fat because I eat too much and don't work out enough, but I am working on it   
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|  09-07-2012, 04:39 AM | #27 | 
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				 | thats the easy way to look at it but it seems to be more complex than that. there are other studies that say continued exposure to certain kinds of plastics causes people to gain weight. i only eat organic cereals and try to not eat much bread. i also recently stopped using water bottles and switched to filtering my own water as well as stopping the use of plastic containers to store/heat food. i am far from fat at all but i don't like this GMO shit. its not done for health or anything, its all about profit. its not natural. 
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|  09-07-2012, 04:56 AM | #28 | |
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 I've read studies that say bigfoot exists. Studies that say Cocaine is really good for you. etc etc. Studies are studies. It's not an "easy way to look at it". Food is energy. Your body burns energy to live. You take in X amount of energy each day... you burn X amount of energy each day. At the end of the day, you either break even (or thereabouts), have a deficit or surplus. People are done a tremendous disservice by continually being bombarded with the message "it isn't your fault". It is your fault. The USA and the rest of the world is driving itself over a cliff of self entitlement, of being special, of never being wrong where the notion of personal accountability is a thing of the past as a result because any excuse is now acceptable. I own a gym. Our business is weight loss and getting our members results. Everyone follows the same meal plans, same workout plans and its all very basic. It's all very basic, because its a simple issue of calories in vs calories out. That's all you need to manage. Your body can't store fat by consuming less calories than you burn. That is a simple, indisputable fact. This is true of every gym, of every weight loss program in existence. No one in the fitness industry or weight loss industry (Jenny Craig etc) asks "uhm... are you using plastic containers? if so, that could be the problem" because it has no bearing on anyone's weight loss results. EVERY diet in existence requires you to consume fewer calories than you burn no matter what the hook is. As an example, HCG is a huge diet right now and "HCG" is touted to cause weight loss in conjunction with other benefits. People seem to willingly overlook the fact that the diet also comes with a 500 calorie a day meal plan. People also remain largely unaware of the fact that this has been studied to death in the medical community and HCG has been proven time and time again to play no role whatsoever in weight loss. Weight loss is not an abstract idea or concept where anything and everything is possible... its nothing more than the second law of thermodynamics and second grade math at work. You can't put enough gas in your tank to drive 5 miles, then drive 5 miles and end up with a gallon left over. It's a comforting idea to those who refuse to hold themselves accountable, but its obviously not possible. 
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|  09-07-2012, 05:08 AM | #29 | |
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 i totally agree with you - i lost weight by simply eating less calories than i burned. even without sports. but i still think that genetically altered food should be outlawed 
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|  09-07-2012, 05:30 AM | #31 | |
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 My point or concern was more that people shouldn't be told to look for blame or causes beyond understanding what they are putting into your mouth to begin with. That is the biggest problem of the USA. People eat like shit. Lifestyles are increasingly sedentary. Any European here that has been to an average restaurant in the US and ordered food shared the same "what the fuck!!!!" moment as they saw the portion sizes. People in the USA have zero perspective on how they should be eating, how much they should be eating and portion sizes. Blaming plastic bottles and containers when one is eating horribly to begin with is not helping anyone. 
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|  09-07-2012, 05:44 AM | #32 | |
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  ) and eat roughly 2100 calories a day to maintain. I track everything I put in my mouth. The flip side is that he can't really gain muscle easily because of his body type and because of that extra energy spent working out, plus additional calories for growth/repair means he has to increase his calories to 6000+ per day to have any real hope of gaining lean muscle. However, if he wants to lose body fat, he simply eats 1 less cheeseburger each day. He can also eat substantially more a few times a week and not have to really worry about it as his body will burn it and his weight will remain the same. I however, can still eat 2500 calories per day and gain muscle fairly easily. If I want to lose fat, I have to lower my calories to 1900 or so per day, monitor/count every single thing that passes my lips, do 40 minutes plus of cardio 5-6 days a week and be extremely consistent and diligent about it. Life is not fair, in some respects there is a great deal of individuality as it pertains to each persons physiology... but of all things, one thing remains constant with respect to this conversation... the laws of physics and namely, thermodynamics and how it applies to energy consumption, storage and expenditure in the human body.  
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 You can get some info here: The hormone diet. 
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|  09-07-2012, 04:27 PM | #34 | |
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 And... oh great. One more "diet" of the many 1000s of diets that all make some claim that they have some benefit or are somehow based on a unique principle,... yet all seem to require you to eat fewer calories than you burn. Imagine that. 
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|  09-07-2012, 06:50 PM | #35 | 
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				 | GMO foods should at least be labeled so the consumer is made aware of what they are purchasing.  
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|  09-07-2012, 11:49 PM | #36 | 
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				 | You are correct. BUT the number of calories you burn is greatly influenced by your metabolism. So you might eat 800cals and still get fat while with a healthy metabolism you could easily eat 2000cals without moving a finger. 
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|  09-08-2012, 01:35 AM | #37 | 
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				 | So, to answer the question of the topic: "Is Genetically Modified Wheat Making People Fat?" Yes, it is possible! 
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|  09-08-2012, 01:53 AM | #38 | 
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|  09-08-2012, 05:55 AM | #39 | |
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 You can't put enough gas in your car to drive 10 miles every day, then magically drive 12 miles every day and somehow end up with gas left over. 
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|  09-08-2012, 06:43 AM | #40 | 
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				 | I suppose a better way to have said it with respect to "eating 800 calories a day and gaining weight" is that if you were a 5'7" female in a wheel chair with absolutely no use of your arms or legs, your body would still be burning 800+ calories a day to maintain itself and function... so no, you wouldn't be "getting fat" at 800 calories a day. A person who has use of their arms and legs certainly has no excuse as even walking for 1 hr a day for a very overweight person would burn 500+ calories. 
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|  09-08-2012, 06:48 AM | #41 | 
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|  09-08-2012, 09:14 AM | #42 | 
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				 | Blamed for Bee Collapse, Monsanto Buys Leading Bee Research Firm  Story here... http://naturalsociety.com/monsanto-b...research-firm/ | 
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  Do you know what insulin resistance is, for example? 
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