Major "illegal porn" bust. But I find this the most troubling.

[L-Pink]

The nature of the bust I'll just call age related. A nasty bust with people that should be shot but, what I also find troubling is who was investigating .......

"The agents that work for me are extremely driven on this type of investigation," said Bart Cahill, assistant agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations in Boston. "They really believe that they are taking out horrific violators and saving kids."

I thought Homeland Security was originated as a government entity to "coordinate a national effort to prevent terrorist attacks within the U.S., reduce America’s vulnerability to terrorism, and minimize the damage and recover from attacks that do occur"

From protecting our boarders to investigating crimes and making local investigations and arrests? This type of all encompassing power and intrusion will eventually fuck this country.

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[NaughtyRob]

Homeland Security can be anything. And yes its scary.

[Bill8]

cmon, we all knew that homeland security was an abomination that would inevitably be abused, and used as a new federal secret police with no real oversight or limitations, and a massive budget.

but, everyone went along with it. terrorists under every bed.

it's a little late to complain. unless you were complaining when it was created, like sensible people all were.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Bill8

it's a little late to complain. unless you were complaining when it was created, like sensible people all were.

Oh I complained. But complaining doesn't change anything. I will eventually get what I deserve for being too accepting of an obvious power grab.

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[slavdogg]

ICE is most likely investigating it
and ICE is part of HLS

[MaDalton]

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

With 3 grandparents coming from Germany and 1 from Austria I'm all to aware of how quickly too much power can be abused.

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[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

With 3 grandparents coming from Germany and 1 from Austria I'm all to aware of how quickly too much power can be abused.

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well said

[wehateporn]

I suspect the 'Porn' was just sexy pics of Agent Scully from the X-Files, I doubt we'll be seeing much more of JohnnyClips around here anymore, looks like he revealed too much 'Truth'

[Bill8]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Oh I complained. But complaining doesn't change anything. I will eventually get what I deserve for being too accepting of an obvious power grab.

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as will we all.

americans let themselves be manipulated by their effeminate fears of fantasy terrorists, and the endgame will not be pretty.

we should be furious. we should be ashamed. but, everyone will just cower and say, "well, as long as they protect us from a few pedos, I guess that's all right then...".

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

well said

I'll never forget how my mother's mother told the story of their Atlantic crossing. The concern that they would be refused entry at Ellis Island because my grandfather's cough from being sick might be misinterpreted as tuberculosis and they would be sent back to Europe. Times have certainly changed.

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[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

L-Pink, you should know, that eventually, they will have no identifiable markings.



Also that is you this time around down there!

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Bill8

as will we all.

americans let themselves be manipulated by their effeminate fears of fantasy terrorists, and the endgame will not be pretty.

we should be furious. we should be ashamed. but, everyone will just cower and say, "well, as long as they protect us from a few pedos, I guess that's all right then...".

You forgot this one they so love to use, "I don't do anything wrong so I don't have any problem with them doing __________. If you're not a criminal you don't have anything to worry about."

People are sleeping while history is about to repeat itself once again.

[pornlaw]

And in tandem with Homeland Security comes the IRS. The IRS are adding new agents frequently and putting them with HLS agents. HLS has exceedingly broader jurisdiction now then ever before.

[keysync]

I don't care who you are this is scary shit...

[ClaireMonroe]

So in these threads I've seen complaining about political corruption, ever expanding government agencies, and possibilities of communist take overs yet then I also find tolerance toward the government taking away weapons from the citizens.

Which is it?

[2012]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

With 3 grandparents coming from Germany and 1 from Austria I'm all to aware of how quickly too much power can be abused.

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can be ? it is being abused ... "the people" are asleep

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

It would be best if Americans calmed down.

[2012]

when they started replacing "The United States" with "The Homeland" in speeches etc. ,, ... yea you have to be brain dead not to see what's going on and most people are... their actually broke, working 3 jobs and still think this is America 20 years ago and it's not. that plan has been scrapped .....

adjusting my tinfoil hat

[Mutt]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

The nature of the bust I'll just call age related. A nasty bust with people that should be shot but, what I also find troubling is who was investigating .......

"The agents that work for me are extremely driven on this type of investigation," said Bart Cahill, assistant agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations in Boston. "They really believe that they are taking out horrific violators and saving kids."

I thought Homeland Security was originated as a government entity to "coordinate a national effort to prevent terrorist attacks within the U.S., reduce America?s vulnerability to terrorism, and minimize the damage and recover from attacks that do occur"

From protecting our boarders to investigating crimes and making local investigations and arrests? This type of all encompassing power and intrusion will eventually fuck this country.

.

where's the link to the news story?

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Mutt

where's the link to the news story?

It's a cp story on yahoo's front page.

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[marlboroack]

Originally Posted by Terrorist

It would be best if Americans calmed down.

What he said LOL

[ClaireMonroe]

Oh god I just read the article and I'm going to go throw up now. WTF is wrong with people?

[Vapid - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Originally Posted by 2012

when they started replacing "The United States" with "The Homeland" in speeches etc. ,, ... yea you have to be brain dead not to see what's going on and most people are... their actually broke, working 3 jobs and still think this is America 20 years ago and it's not. that plan has been scrapped .....

adjusting my tinfoil hat

They call it "US" and America isn't the whole world.

[d-null]

isn't Homeland Security the department that shuts down sites that pirate live NFL games too?

[Rochard]

The scope of homeland security includes:

• Emergency preparedness and response (for both terrorism and natural disasters), including volunteer medical, police, emergency management, and fire personnel;
• Domestic and International intelligence activities, largely today within the FBI;
• Critical infrastructure and perimeter protection;
• Border security, including both land, maritime and country borders;
• Transportation security, including aviation and maritime transportation;
• Biodefense;
• Detection of radioactive and radiological materials;
• Research on next-generation security technologies.

(source:wikipedia)

The new world order has arrived. All of the conspiracy nuts were busy ranting, they slipped it in right in front of us. And they didn't even try to hide it.

Sheep.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's a cp story on yahoo's front page.

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post it.
ds

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

It's a cp story on yahoo's front page.

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So you're complaining that HLS busted this?

BOSTON (AP) ? A child pornography investigation that began in Massachusetts has led to the arrests of 43 men in seven countries and identified more than 140 child victims.

Those arrested include a children's puppeteer in Florida, a hotel manager in Massachusetts and a day care worker in the Netherlands.

A stuffed toy bunny helped investigators crack the case.

The bunny had been seen in a photo of a distraught 18-month-old boy. Investigators have discovered that the bunny was a character in a children's book popular in the Netherlands.

From there, they zeroed in on Robert Mikelsons of Amsterdam. He has confessed to molesting more than 80 children.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So you're complaining that HLS busted this?

why would this dipshit complain about this? thx for posting the facts.
ds

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

why would this dipshit complain about this? thx for posting the facts.
ds

Because if that's what the scared mice are complaining about. All I see is a lot of children being saved from abuse. If it's not the case they're screaming about, please tell me.

[Major (Tom)]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Because if that's what the scared mice are complaining about. All I see is a lot of children being saved from abuse. If it's not the case they're screaming about, please tell me.

When I hear about pedos getting busted I do an endzone dance like a guy named jaquon & spike the ball. I'm one for due process but when it comes to kids is due process really aplicable? I say no, it's not.
ds

[BIGTYMER]

They start this way to win over the public. They will expand rapidly into other areas.

That huge bath salt bust a few weeks ago involved DHS.

[BIGTYMER]

[helterskelter808]

"When it comes to [terrorists/pedos/drug dealsers/pornographers/whatever you don't like] is due process really applicable?"

800 years after the Magna Carta and many people still think like this. Is it any wonder fascism finds it so easy?
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[JFK]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Homeland Security can be anything. And yes its scary.

mostly scary and out of control

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by BIGTYMER

They start this way to win over the public. They will expand rapidly into other areas.

Imagine how popular the Nazis could have been with headlines like, "Gestapo busts KP ring" or "SS foil Jewish plot to blow up Zeppelins with TNT inside long johns".

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by helterskelter808

Imagine how popular the Nazis could have been with headlines like, "Gestapo busts KP ring" or "SS foil Jewish plot to blow up Zeppelins with TNT inside long johns".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstagsbrand

[helterskelter808]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reichstagsbrand

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11

[V_RocKs]

In this case I am glad they got them!

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

When I hear about pedos getting busted I do an endzone dance like a guy named jaquon & spike the ball. I'm one for due process but when it comes to kids is due process really aplicable? I say no, it's not.
ds

It could be because it was outside and inside the UP, HLS were better for dealing with it.

[Tom_PM]

Originally Posted by ClaireMonroe

So in these threads I've seen complaining about political corruption, ever expanding government agencies, and possibilities of communist take overs yet then I also find tolerance toward the government taking away weapons from the citizens.

Which is it?

Thats a false choice so thats probably why you're getting no replies except for this one.

Anyway, if people remember, the whole shit hit the fan when the 9/11 bombers profiles were not communicated between the FBI and the CIA and so they created this department to solve the problem of inter-agency communication. That was the public sales pitch at least.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by DukeSkywalker

why would this dipshit complain about this? thx for posting the facts.
ds

Duke, I said the people caught should be shot. My point was I didn't realize Homeland Security had expanded into investigating criminal activity not security related committed by US citizens. Doesn't the FBI and local authorities do this? And paul doesn't post facts he trolls and has a trophy to prove it.

Does this mean Homeland Security is right now looking into some of the edgier sites who's owners post here? Fighting a local district attorney in butt fuck Florida over obscenity is one thing, fighting a case prepared by Homeland Security and prosecuted by the Feds is another.

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[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Paul Markham

So you're complaining that HLS busted this?

Troll of the year hits again. Fuck you paul. Don't turn my words around. I'm questioning the bounds of this agencies reach into crimes committed by US citizens having nothing to do with protecting our boarders. NOT weather this cp ring should have been busted. There are enough agencies that cp falls under that should have investigated/prosecuted these lowlifes.

Are you this stupid or are you just looking to stir shit that isn't there?

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[TisMe]

Absolute power.

Proven throughout history to be a good thing.

[just a punk]

I don't know why, but I have some strong associations of DHS with something NAZI. I didn't know about that enforcement organization before I visited the Stats. I meet these guys personally (when I was leaving the USA) and I now I've kept a very bad feeling about them.

Just my 2 cents.

[PhoneMoney]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Oh I complained. But complaining doesn't change anything. I will eventually get what I deserve for being too accepting of an obvious power grab.

.

Don't feel too bad, because even those of us who bitch, moaned, and tried (and still try) to change things didn't make a dent.

And I am sorry people didn't read your post - they may be too busy responding to guys who said they were doing blow all night, lol.

I am picking up what you are laying down, L-pink.

[BIGTYMER]

Say hello to more authority!

I too have a very bad feeling about DHS. Just makes me think of the Nazis.

[Due]

Originally Posted by NaughtyRob

Homeland Security can be anything. And yes its scary.

I think anytime any cross-border activities is done then HLS is required to be involved.

[Matt 26z]

Just prior to WW2, Adolf Hitler was arguably the greatest leader in world history. He turned Germany's economic struggles around so quickly and so well that Germans worshiped him.

What if something similar happened in the US? What if our economy quickly returned to 1990s levels? The love for Hitler in Germany would be mirrored here in the US. Such a US president (and congress) could get away with anything they wanted.

That's when things would get scary in the US.

[ClaireMonroe]

Honestly, I'm more of afraid of the riots that are probably going to happen when obama loses, but I'm still going to vote against him.

Originally Posted by Matt 26z

Just prior to WW2, Adolf Hitler was arguably the greatest leader in world history. He turned Germany's economic struggles around so quickly and so well that Germans worshiped him.

What if something similar happened in the US? What if our economy quickly returned to 1990s levels? The love for Hitler in Germany would be mirrored here in the US. Such a US president (and congress) could get away with anything they wanted.

That's when things would get scary in the US.