Florida man shoots and kills unarmed door to door salesman for simply stepping on his property...

[Young]

A man in Cape Coral, Florida on Wednesday was arrested for shooting and killing an unarmed door-to-door salesman on his property.

Kenneth Bailey Roop, 52, has been charged with second-degree murder for killing 30-year-old Nicholas Rainey.

A co-worker who witnessed the shooting said Rainey had knocked on Roop?s door, but received no answer. While Rainey was walking down the drive-way, Roop pulled up in his pickup truck and asked why Rainey was at his house. Rainey explained that he was selling steak and seafood. The witness said Roop then pulled out a black handgun and shot Rainey. As Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head.

Roop later told police that he shot Rainey in the head ?for effect? and that he had three no trespassing signs on his property. Roop said he feared for his life.

?I?m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,? he told police. ?I was in fear.?

An off-duty Collier County sheriff?s deputy was nearby and heard the gunshots. When she arrived at Roop?s property, she found Rainey dying on the ground while Roop was in his garage reloading his handgun.

?He was telling the officer, ?he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I?ll kill anybody that steps on my property,? somewhere along them lines. It was just unbelievable,? one witness told the The News-Press. ?She never flinched. She deserves a medal. I don?t think he was done [shooting].?

The deputy ordered Roop to drop his weapon and held him at gunpoint until police officers arrived.

Roop?s neighbors described him as ?the neighborhood crazy.? Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.

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Guns. EVERYONE should have one.

[L-Pink]

Never a dull moment in the sunshine state.

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[Rochard]

Clearly if salesman was armed he would have been able to defend himself.

[kane]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Never a dull moment in the sunshine state.

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I have long said: "If it is fucked up it likely comes from Japan, Germany or Florida."

[sandman!]

exactly!!!!!!!!

Originally Posted by Rochard

Clearly if salesman was armed he would have been able to defend himself.

[PiracyPitbull]

?I?m not going to give him the chance to do something to me,? he told police. ?I was in fear.?

Lying fuck

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by kane

I have long said: "If it is fucked up it likely comes from Japan, Germany or Florida."

i feel slightly insulted

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i feel slightly insulted

Hey I'm German AND live in Florida lol.

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[Failed]

We need stricter door-to-door sales laws.

[epitome]

I watched the video thinking it'd be some rural area with a mile long driveway. Nope, it's the suburbs with houses 40 feet apart and setback 30 feet from the road.

[kane]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Hey I'm German AND live in Florida lol.

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Damn 2 strikes LOL

[MaDalton]

Originally Posted by L-Pink

Hey I'm German AND live in Florida lol.

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you like sushi?

[SmutHammer]

I seen on Billboards while driving through Florida that, resedents have the right to shoot trespassers.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by Young

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/07/2...QtV334E.reddit

Guns. EVERYONE should have one.

it's stupidity trying to attach this trigger happy gun owner to gun owners that follow the rules.

[BlackCrayon]

oh come on. he's just exercising his rights.

[u-Bob]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

oh come on. he's just exercising his rights.

no, he wasn't.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

it's stupidity trying to attach this trigger happy gun owner to gun owners that follow the rules.

agreed

[DamianJ]

Guns rock!

[CPA37710T]

this is very sad, hope this guy rots in prison

[Bill8]

one of the possible solutions to the 2nd amendment problem is extremely strict laws for bad gun handling and use, especiallythat results in death, injury, loss of property, or threatening.

Harsh and long mandatory sentences, no parole, no pleas, no leeway by prosecutors, no excuses.

it's a legal solution, and you could actually make it happen politically.

Mandatory sentences are an abomination, but they are possible politically.

[2MuchMark]

Thanks again, NRA.

[SuckOnThis]

Won't be long before this guy has a website soliciting donations.

[tony286]

There are people that think stand your ground laws is a license to kill and I think there are some that buy a gun and just itch for a chance to use it. The poor kid. I think people should be able to have a gun but I think there should be screening and classes u must attend and continue to attend to keep your license. Give the tool the respect it should have.

[Just Alex]

Salesman wasn't black, so why bother writing about it?

[epitome]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

it's stupidity trying to attach this trigger happy gun owner to gun owners that follow the rules.

Isn't every trigger happy gun owner a gun owner that follows the rules... until they don't?

[GregE]

Not too smart to ignore a bunch of No Trespassing signs.. especially in places like Florida and Texas.

Of course, that's absolutely no excuse for shooting the poor guy.

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What about all the car accidents and deaths? Ban cars!

what i don't get is these assholes making laws to punish everyone. I don't see a solution for people just snapping. no record off the radar. I think we're coming to a test in the government concerning our rights. it could possibly get violent.

[epitome]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

what i don't get is these assholes making laws to punish everyone. I don't see a solution for people just snapping. no record off the radar. I think we're coming to a test in the government concerning our rights. it could possibly get violent.

There is no solution at this point. The guns are already out there.

[Slew_]

fuuuuck yea thats white

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Clearly if salesman was armed he would have been able to defend himself.

Sure, the salesman was expecting to be shot , so he could have pulled before and kill the other guy ...

Better, he should have pulled even before the other guy stopped his car and kill him as a preventive self-defense , as he feared for his steaks ,, oups, I mean for his life .

Fuck universal healthcare forced on people , force guns on people ...

[brassmonkey]

Originally Posted by directfiesta

Sure, the salesman was expecting to be shot , so he could have pulled before and kill the other guy ...

Better, he should have pulled even before the other guy stopped his car and kill him as a preventive self-defense , as he feared for his steaks ,, oups, I mean for his life .

Fuck universal healthcare forced on people , force guns on people ...

he did a boyz in tha hood on his ass. turn yo ass ova nigga!

[AngusAl]

Scary stuff.........this salesman does the same thing for a living I do...WOW
The guy is out trying to make a living.......NOT selling crack.......NOT stealing.....Just working and most likely on straight commission to boot. Trespassing is one thing but as a salesman I pay attention to No soliciting signs and not so much No trespassing.

[ThunderBalls]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

1 person dies and it's a tragedy

1 million die and it's a stat

I do believe you are the most irritating motherfucker thats ever been on this board.

[directfiesta]

Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

1 person dies and it's a tragedy

1 million die and it's a stat

,, at least have the decency to render credit to the one that said that : Stalin.

[2012]

what a maverick

[Spunky]

Originally Posted by Rochard

Clearly if salesman was armed he would have been able to defend himself.

Salesmen have to arm themselves so they can sell? I think I'll find another line of work.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by GregE

Not too smart to ignore a bunch of No Trespassing signs.. especially in places like Florida and Texas.

Of course, that's absolutely no excuse for shooting the poor guy.

Honestly, I kinda side with the crazy ass old coot on this one.

He really, really didn't want people on his property. He didn't have one sign, he had like...5? If you are stupid enough to ignore SEVERAL no trespassing signs, you kinda get what you deserve. And the guy? He felt like he made it very clear to people to stay off his property, and anyone who would ignore ALL THEM THAR SIGNS, probably had bad intentions in his mind.

Also I hate those dicks who drive around selling meat from a truck. Seriously, if I want meat I know where the fucking grocery store is.

[Paul Markham]

Originally Posted by brassmonkey

it's stupidity trying to attach this trigger happy gun owner to gun owners that follow the rules.

The stupidity it too allow these nuts to own a gun.

James Holmes was seeing a university psychiatrist specializing in schizophrenia before the attack, will he try to declared criminally insane?

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold Columbine High School

Waco, Not the FBI's fault. It was the fault of the US law allowing religious nuts to acquire an arsenal.

This trigger happy owner is an over used excuse for regulating the sales to people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

[AngusAl]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Honestly, I kinda side with the crazy ass old coot on this one.

He really, really didn't want people on his property. He didn't have one sign, he had like...5? If you are stupid enough to ignore SEVERAL no trespassing signs, you kinda get what you deserve. And the guy? He felt like he made it very clear to people to stay off his property, and anyone who would ignore ALL THEM THAR SIGNS, probably had bad intentions in his mind.

Also I hate those dicks who drive around selling meat from a truck. Seriously, if I want meat I know where the fucking grocery store is.

Sorry Sir, I think you are an idiot..........so you have a guy trying to make a living, working on straight commission and its okay to SHOOT him instead of saying no thanks? And you hate us guys selling meat from a truck? Would it better to be collecting unemployment? or welfare? or maybe better to be selling drugs? Exactly what do you hate about a guy trying to make an honest living selling a product that you actually USE and NEED and already buy somewhere else at a higher price and these guys you HATE are willing to deliver direct to your door for less than you pay at the grocery store. So you tell me..........who sounds like the dick?

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by AngusAl

Sorry Sir, I think you are an idiot..........so you have a guy trying to make a living, working on straight commission and its okay to SHOOT him instead of saying no thanks? And you hate us guys selling meat from a truck? Would it better to be collecting unemployment? or welfare? or maybe better to be selling drugs? Exactly what do you hate about a guy trying to make an honest living selling a product that you actually USE and NEED and already buy somewhere else at a higher price and these guys you HATE are willing to deliver direct to your door for less than you pay at the grocery store. So you tell me..........who sounds like the dick?

You do.

That's why I hate you assholes. Can you read? NO TRESPASSING. One NO TRESPASSING sign means "don't bother me". Multiple NO TRESPASSING signs means, "I am crazy and anti social, come on my property and you get what you get." which in this case was a few rounds of high velocity served up hot and ready.

IF I WANT, MEAT I HAVE A BUTCHER.

I don't need your flash frozen bricks of god knows what from the back of a beat up Mazda B2000. Who the fuck buys frozen meat?

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by AngusAl

Sorry Sir, I think you are an idiot..........so you have a guy trying to make a living, working on straight commission and its okay to SHOOT him instead of saying no thanks? And you hate us guys selling meat from a truck? Would it better to be collecting unemployment? or welfare? or maybe better to be selling drugs? Exactly what do you hate about a guy trying to make an honest living selling a product that you actually USE and NEED and already buy somewhere else at a higher price and these guys you HATE are willing to deliver direct to your door for less than you pay at the grocery store. So you tell me..........who sounds like the dick?

To be clear: I HATE ASSHOLES WHO SELL RANDOM MEAT FROM A TRUCK.

Did you get that part? You are no different than the losers who sell speakers from the back of a white van.

If I want meat I want dry aged, USDA PRIME steaks, cut by a guy I know at my local grocery and sold to me fresh and ready to grill. I want to pick out exactly the cuts I want, marbled through with delicious beef fat and no more than few days away from mooing and eating grass.

What are you selling? Oh, right; unknown, rock hard, flash frozen bricks of crap from who knows where.

NOT INTERESTED.

Peddle that shit to heavily armed rubes.

[topsiteking]

"he stepped on my property, he trespassed, I’ll kill anybody that steps on my property."
Sounds fair to me.

[jimmy-3-way]

Kenneth Bailey Roop = Hero.

This is AMERICA.

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Honestly, I kinda side with the crazy ass old coot on this one.

"...as Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head."

Do you side with him on this one too?

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

"...as Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head."

Do you side with him on this one too?

Sure, why not. The dude was already dead, why not make a point?

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

If you fuck with a crazy dude and you get shot, you deserve it.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

"...as Rainey lay on the ground, Roop fired another bullet into the back of his head."

Do you side with him on this one too?

It's pretty simple: what does NO TRESPASSING mean?

It means, very clearly, "STAY OFF MY LAND OR YOU GET WHAT YOU GET."

[Slappin Fish]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Sure, why not. The dude was already dead, why not make a point?

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

If you fuck with a crazy dude and you get shot, you deserve it.

Didn't miss anything.

Was an honest question, I'd rather someone come out and say : "I want guns even if it leads to a more violent society" like you're doing, than the invading army bullshit excuses people come up with.

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by Slappin Fish

Didn't miss anything.

Was an honest question, I'd rather someone come out and say : "I want guns even if it leads to a more violent society" like you're doing, than the invading army bullshit excuses people come up with.

Actually I think gun nuts are...well...nuts. Just look at the ones that post here. I don't even think most cops should carry guns, they'd be a lot more fucking polite. Isn't that how it works in the UK - beat cops are unarmed and they have 'gun squads' when necessary?

But, in this case, I also very much believe in personal responsibility: you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Or a few rounds of 38 spesh in your important organs.

Also, hate door to door salesmen.

[kane]

Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Actually I think gun nuts are...well...nuts. Just look at the ones that post here. I don't even think most cops should carry guns, they'd be a lot more fucking polite. Isn't that how it works in the UK - beat cops are unarmed and they have 'gun squads' when necessary?

But, in this case, I also very much believe in personal responsibility: you fuck with the bull, you get the horns. Or a few rounds of 38 spesh in your important organs.

Also, hate door to door salesmen.

So you are saying that 3 signs ignored = death penalty?

Fantastic!

Let's do this. We can put snipers on the streets. If you are speeding and you drive past three different posted speed signs, you ignored three clear signs that you are speeding and breaking the law, the sniper then takes you out. Sound good?

[jimmy-3-way]

Originally Posted by kane

So you are saying that 3 signs ignored = death penalty?

Fantastic!

Let's do this. We can put snipers on the streets. If you are speeding and you drive past three different posted speed signs, you ignored three clear signs that you are speeding and breaking the law, the sniper then takes you out. Sound good?

That's utterly illogical, and not how it works. If you ignore a speed limit sign you get a ticket. Everyone knows that. THAT is the law.

If you ignore a sign put up by a crazy dude, you get what you get.