Florida man shoots and kills unarmed door to door salesman for simply stepping on his property... - Page 2 - GoFuckYourself.com

kane · 07-28-2012, 02:06 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

That's utterly illogical, and not how it works. If you ignore a speed limit sign you get a ticket. Everyone knows that. THAT is the law.

If you ignore a sign put up by a crazy dude, you get what you get.

Just so I am clear.

In your mind flying down the highway speeding should be punished by a ticket.

Ignoring trespassing signs, yet doing no harm, should be punished by death.

Am I correct?

Slappin Fish · 07-28-2012, 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Actually I think gun nuts are...well...nuts. Just look at the ones that post here. I don't even think most cops should carry guns, they'd be a lot more fucking polite. Isn't that how it works in the UK - beat cops are unarmed and they have 'gun squads' when necessary?

Personally don't mind violence.

I just dislike the hypocrisy of guns make the world a safer place argument.

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Also, hate door to door salesmen.

Fair enough

death sentence might be a little harsh though

jimmy-3-way · 07-28-2012, 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Just so I am clear.

In your mind flying down the highway speeding should be punished by a ticket.

Ignoring trespassing signs, yet doing no harm, should be punished by death.

Am I correct?

No, not at all.

I think if you ignore warnings and take your life in your hands you get what you get. I absolutely agree that the old coot overreacted. HOWEVER, he really had every right to.

Look at it from the old man's perspective: he was scared of something...probably nigras from Obama's secret Kenyan army stealing the gold he bought from the Glenn Beck radio show. Whatever.

He clearly warned people: stay away. Do not come on my property. Not with a little sign he could use as a technicality, multiple signs, at all entrances to the property.

So he comes home and thinks, "WHAT THE FUCK? There's a guy trespassing even tho I have clearly stated I have a zero tolerance policy for trespassing. If this guy is this brazen HE MUST WANT ALLA MY GLENN BECK GOLD AND HE GONNA KILL ME!!!!!"

I will bet you a cool million that had the guy stood on the sidewalk and politely inquired if the old coot wanted some nasty ass steaks, that he'd be alive today. He is dead because he ignored a clear warning.

jimmy-3-way · 07-28-2012, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

Just so I am clear.

In your mind flying down the highway speeding should be punished by a ticket.

Ignoring trespassing signs, yet doing no harm, should be punished by death.

Am I correct?

And remember - he did NOT open fire on the salesman's partner who was sitting in the truck.

jimmycooper · 07-28-2012, 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

he did a boyz in tha hood on his ass. turn yo ass ova nigga!

I believe it's actually 'turn yo punk ass ova'. What a classic scene.

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Honestly, I kinda side with the crazy ass old coot on this one.

He really, really didn't want people on his property. He didn't have one sign, he had like...5? If you are stupid enough to ignore SEVERAL no trespassing signs, you kinda get what you deserve. And the guy? He felt like he made it very clear to people to stay off his property, and anyone who would ignore ALL THEM THAR SIGNS, probably had bad intentions in his mind.

Also I hate those dicks who drive around selling meat from a truck. Seriously, if I want meat I know where the fucking grocery store is.

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

You do.

That's why I hate you assholes. Can you read? NO TRESPASSING. One NO TRESPASSING sign means "don't bother me". Multiple NO TRESPASSING signs means, "I am crazy and anti social, come on my property and you get what you get." which in this case was a few rounds of high velocity served up hot and ready.

IF I WANT, MEAT I HAVE A BUTCHER.

I don't need your flash frozen bricks of god knows what from the back of a beat up Mazda B2000. Who the fuck buys frozen meat?

kane · 07-28-2012, 02:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

No, not at all.

I think if you ignore warnings and take your life in your hands you get what you get. I absolutely agree that the old coot overreacted. HOWEVER, he really had every right to.

Look at it from the old man's perspective: he was scared of something...probably nigras from Obama's secret Kenyan army stealing the gold he bought from the Glenn Beck radio show. Whatever.

He clearly warned people: stay away. Do not come on my property. Not with a little sign he could use as a technicality, multiple signs, at all entrances to the property.

So he comes home and thinks, "WHAT THE FUCK? There's a guy trespassing even tho I have clearly stated I have a zero tolerance policy for trespassing. If this guy is this brazen HE MUST WANT ALLA MY GLENN BECK GOLD AND HE GONNA KILL ME!!!!!"

I will bet you a cool million that had the guy stood on the sidewalk and politely inquired if the old coot wanted some nasty ass steaks, that he'd be alive today. He is dead because he ignored a clear warning.

While I too hate people that come to your door trying to sell you stuff and agree that the guy did trespass when it was posted to stay out, to me that is not a death penalty kind of crime. Did the steak guy lunge at him? Did he threaten him? What went down before he shot him? It sure doesn't sound like it. He wasn't even wearing a hoodie and carrying skittles. If somehow there was a fight I could understand why he shot him, but just to find someone on your property after you have posted no trespassing shouldn't give you the right to kill them.

jimmy-3-way · 07-28-2012, 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kane

While I too hate people that come to your door trying to sell you stuff and agree that the guy did trespass when it was posted to stay out, to me that is not a death penalty kind of crime. Did the steak guy lunge at him? Did he threaten him? What went down before he shot him? It sure doesn't sound like it. He wasn't even wearing a hoodie and carrying skittles. If somehow there was a fight I could understand why he shot him, but just to find someone on your property after you have posted no trespassing shouldn't give you the right to kill them.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

As far as the crazy old coot was concerned, ignoring multiple, obvious NO TRESPASSING signs was an aggressive act, and in his mind he acted appropriately.

The bottom line here is that while tragic and an obvious over reaction by an unbalanced person, the victim has absolutely no argument: had he not trespassed, ignoring multiple warning's, he'd be alive today and shilling his meat on another block.

Can you dispute that?

crockett · 07-28-2012, 03:02 AM

I bet he was a Tea Party supporter..

Phoenix · 07-28-2012, 03:03 AM

ok...so...this guy in florida is a fucking nutjob.

and so is anyone who supports what he did.

brassmonkey · 07-28-2012, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

The stupidity it too allow these nuts to own a gun.

James Holmes was seeing a university psychiatrist specializing in schizophrenia before the attack, will he try to declared criminally insane?

Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold Columbine High School

Waco, Not the FBI's fault. It was the fault of the US law allowing religious nuts to acquire an arsenal.

This trigger happy owner is an over used excuse for regulating the sales to people who shouldn't be allowed to own guns.

so what's your suggestion? punish the majority? the gun owners that follow the law. there is no way to predict it because their law abiding citizens. if its not guns they fill figure a way.

and the options are far worse that a gun. look up the oklahoma bombing

Jel · 07-28-2012, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Rochard

Clearly if salesman was armed he would have been able to defend himself.

ottopottomouse · 07-28-2012, 05:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Actually I think gun nuts are...well...nuts. Just look at the ones that post here. I don't even think most cops should carry guns, they'd be a lot more fucking polite. Isn't that how it works in the UK - beat cops are unarmed and they have 'gun squads' when necessary?

Yes. But the likelihood of them encountering a member of the public with a gun is slim here.

MaDalton · 07-28-2012, 05:24 AM

i am just shaking my head in disbelieve...

ThunderBalls · 07-28-2012, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

No, not at all.

I think if you ignore warnings and take your life in your hands you get what you get. I absolutely agree that the old coot overreacted. HOWEVER, he really had every right to.

Wrong you sociopathical prick, he didnt have every right to do so. What the fuck is wrong with some of you.

tony286 · 07-28-2012, 05:58 AM

Actually he didn't shoot the salesman friend because the off duty cop showed while he was reloading. I actually looked by trespassing in a legal dictionary and going. Up to ask if u want to buy meat isn't it. Now after he was told no he didn't leave that's trespassing.

O MARINA · 07-28-2012, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Sure, why not. The dude was already dead, why not make a point?

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

If you fuck with a crazy dude and you get shot, you deserve it.

You don't sound too stable yourself, please step back from laptop....

BFT3K · 07-28-2012, 06:20 AM

If the guy who was killed was a friend, or a family member, I would gather a few
door-to-door bullet salesmen together, and revisit this asshole for one final sales pitch.

Not interested in bullets today, how about a few molotov cocktails then?

directfiesta · 07-28-2012, 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

To be clear: I HATE ASSHOLES WHO SELL RANDOM MEAT FROM A TRUCK.

Did you get that part? You are no different than the losers who sell speakers from the back of a white van.

If I want meat I want dry aged, USDA PRIME steaks, cut by a guy I know at my local grocery and sold to me fresh and ready to grill. I want to pick out exactly the cuts I want, marbled through with delicious beef fat and no more than few days away from mooing and eating grass.

What are you selling? Oh, right; unknown, rock hard, flash frozen bricks of crap from who knows where.

NOT INTERESTED.

Peddle that shit to heavily armed rubes.

I just hope for your fellow citizens that you DO NOT own a gun or firearm ....

lucas131 · 07-28-2012, 06:26 AM

usa! usa! usa! seriously, shoot yourself everyone who have gun in your state or freedom

O MARINA · 07-28-2012, 06:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

If the guy who was killed was a friend, or a family member, I would gather a few
door-to-door bullet salesmen together, and revisit this asshole for one final sales pitch.

Not interested in bullets today, how about a few molotov cocktails then?

I was going to say people are a lot more welcoming in Russia for example and won't shoot you for standing on their lawn (like Florida, Texas) but "molotov cocktails" is how they would deal!!!! Payback is a bitch.

just a punk · 07-28-2012, 06:29 AM

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Roop?s neighbors described him as ?the neighborhood crazy.? Roop has a concealed weapons permit and approximately 14 firearms.

I bet I saw a number of posts made by these "the neighborhood crazy" guys right here on GFY

SuckOnThis · 07-28-2012, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by crockett

I bet he was a Tea Party supporter..

I'd bet the farm that he was listening to Limbaugh on his way home and his blood was boiling by the time he got there due to having a commie muslim president.

mikke · 07-28-2012, 06:39 AM

i love america for this law! fuck yeah america!!!

SuckOnThis · 07-28-2012, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by mikke

i love america for this law! fuck yeah america!!!

What law?

L-Pink · 07-28-2012, 07:03 AM

Yo ese, wanna buy some fine meat?

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O MARINA · 07-28-2012, 08:39 AM

Meat back of truck is a common thing in America? I have never seen or heard of this in Oh Canada.

shimmy2 · 07-28-2012, 09:34 AM

WTF is going on in america these days

brassmonkey · 07-28-2012, 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by shimmy2

WTF is going on in america these days

man your in the DR

im not going to say anymore in here its pointless some of you dont even live in the united states.

Paul Markham · 07-28-2012, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by brassmonkey

so what's your suggestion? punish the majority? the gun owners that follow the law. there is no way to predict it because their law abiding citizens. if its not guns they fill figure a way.

and the options are far worse that a gun. look up the oklahoma bombing

You're spot on, guns don't kill people. People do. So certify the person is responsible to own one first.

Scared you might not pass the test?

You're missing the point.

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

This crazy dude shouldn't have a gun.

jimmy-3-way · 07-28-2012, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

This crazy dude shouldn't have a gun.

THIS IS AMERICA!

Everyone can have a gun.

(Except felons.)

Colmike9 · 07-28-2012, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K

If the guy who was killed was a friend, or a family member, I would gather a few
door-to-door bullet salesmen together, and revisit this asshole for one final sales pitch.

Not interested in bullets today, how about a few molotov cocktails then?

I don't see why more houses aren't burned down after shit like this. My friend was stabbed about a year ago and the next day, the guy who did it was homeless...

xNetworx · 07-28-2012, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

THIS IS AMERICA!

Everyone can have a gun.

(Except felons.)

So you can't have a gun?

This twerp did hard time IN PRISON for fraud or something along those lines FYI

xNetworx · 07-28-2012, 11:01 AM

Anybody who thinks a guy trying to make an honest living deserved to get shot (or it was acceptable) because he ignored or possibly didn't notice No Trespassing signs is piece of watery shit

tony286 · 07-28-2012, 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by O MARINA

Meat back of truck is a common thing in America? I have never seen or heard of this in Oh Canada.

Yeah its got to be here forever. I remember in the late 80's those guys and the pitch was I was delivering to a restaurant and we have extra. Its got to be hard to do now because in most houses everybody works, few people home during the day.

Bryan G · 07-28-2012, 11:34 AM

Unfucking real, anyone that defends this nutter needs to get their head checked.

Brujah · 07-28-2012, 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix

ok...so...this guy in florida is a fucking nutjob.

and so is anyone who supports what he did.

pretty much, yeah.

brassmonkey · 07-28-2012, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmycooper

I believe it's actually 'turn yo punk ass ova'. What a classic scene.

i was tired but you got what i meant.

kane · 07-28-2012, 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castle_doctrine

As far as the crazy old coot was concerned, ignoring multiple, obvious NO TRESPASSING signs was an aggressive act, and in his mind he acted appropriately.

The bottom line here is that while tragic and an obvious over reaction by an unbalanced person, the victim has absolutely no argument: had he not trespassed, ignoring multiple warning's, he'd be alive today and shilling his meat on another block.

Can you dispute that?

I don't disagree that had he just passed this house on by he would still be alive today. Hell, it sounds like had he been at this house just a few minutes early and had been gone by the time the old guy got home he would be alive.

Still, it sounds like the guy was not aggressive and the home owner simply executing him for being on his land. That is unacceptable in my eyes.

Brujah · 07-28-2012, 11:56 AM

The Florida statute doesn't seem to cover shooting someone for just walking down your driveway.
http://www.leg.state.fl.us/Statutes/.../0776.013.html

Deej · 07-28-2012, 12:13 PM

Jimmy... if youre view on this is serious... youre a schmoe.

brassmonkey · 07-28-2012, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

You're spot on, guns don't kill people. People do. So certify the person is responsible to own one first.

Scared you might not pass the test?

You're missing the point.

This crazy dude shouldn't have a gun.

you don't get it

there are cheaper things that will do more damage than a gun.

2012 · 07-28-2012, 12:33 PM

i know this is crazy, and we just met but .... go fuck yourself

seeandsee · 07-28-2012, 12:44 PM

crazy man with gun, and door2door salesman that thinks there is no lunatics behind NO TRESSPASSING SINGS

jimmy-3-way · 07-28-2012, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CamBoss

So you can't have a gun?

This twerp did hard time IN PRISON for fraud or something along those lines FYI

I have a Mossberg under my bed, make of that what you will, Boss.

ColBigBalls · 07-28-2012, 04:52 PM

...From my cold dead hand..:

Rochard · 07-28-2012, 05:11 PM

I read a local article in a newspaper (newspaper? I know, right?) about how they expect to sell 750k guns in California this year. That's up 100k from last year, and five times what they sold five years ago.

Think about this for just a moment. A quarter of a million guns will be sold in California alone this year. And that's only California.

Rochard · 07-28-2012, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmy-3-way

Sure, why not. The dude was already dead, why not make a point?

You are missing one thing here - yes the dude is crazy. HE WARNED EVERYONE THAT HE WAS CRAZY.

If you fuck with a crazy dude and you get shot, you deserve it.

This is a part of the problem with our society today - we give guns to anyone who wants it, but we never ever take them away.

If I remember correctly, this shooter was seeing a shrink. Yet no one put two and two together and said "He's a gun nut seeing a shrink, maybe we should call someone". If if anyone did say it, who do you call?

I keep going back to a friend of mine who I believe is at the very least partially retarded. I'm not saying he's dumb; I'm saying he's had a dozen operations on his brain and he's mentally sixteen years old. Not only is he aloud to drive but he also owns an AR15. While I don't believe he would ever hurt a fly, the truth is there is some kind of mental retardation going on, and he hasn't gotten laid in the past twenty years. Should I call someone, and if so, who should I call?

pornsprite · 07-28-2012, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

What about all the car accidents and deaths? Ban cars!

Maybe you forgot you wrote the word accident in that sentence.

SuckOnThis · 07-28-2012, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Amazing replies in this thread. The guys batshit crazy no doubt, but typical liberalized public ignored, "THREE" NO TRESPASSING signs visible from the street. In short, the guy would be alive "if" he simply followed the property owners posted instructions.

So you're saying he deserved it?

ThunderBalls · 07-28-2012, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Amazing replies in this thread. The guys batshit crazy no doubt, but typical liberalized public ignored, "THREE" NO TRESPASSING signs visible from the street. In short, the guy would be alive "if" he simply followed the property owners posted instructions.

Just so I understand.....because some crazy batshit right wing gun nut shoots and kills a guy simply for ignoring a no trespassing sign you somehow try to twist that around and blame liberals?

Nice!

Maybe you ought to lobby your state senator to introduce a bill to allow all retail establishments in your state the legal right to blast away with a machine gun anyone they don't want in their store. You could be Mr. NRA Hero and it will be all the liberals fault!

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