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AdultKing 06-16-2012 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008179)
So how are you so confident that is is all 100% GPL in what he is selling when you dont even know its contents????

I know its contents.... And i think its best that we all let this die.

There are three which I do not have, I have the rest of them. I know that all but three are GPL. I highly doubt that the three I don't have are commercial proprietary software.

I know you don't really understand the GPL but perhaps reading the officlal GNU/GPL site will clear things up.

The developers who told you they are unhappy are simply trying to hoodwink you. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. They are releasing commercial software and promoting it as being GPL but when someone actually exercises their rights under the GPL they seem to want to cry about it.

In some cases it might be that they just don't fully understand the ramifications of GPL licensing or perhaps they just want to benefit from the promotion of their product as being GPL while never intending to honor the license. In any case, they are the ones in the wrong because legally GPL software once released must remain GPL in the form in which it was released.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008182)
*cough*derivative*cough*

Nintendo can sue anybody they want it's a grey area for designers. :1orglaugh

*cough*retard*cough*

A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 03:01 AM

AdultKing are you anything more than a Writer?

gimme-website 06-16-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008192)
There are three which I do not have, I have the rest of them. I know that all but three are GPL. I highly doubt that the three I don't have are commercial proprietary software.

I know you don't really understand the GPL but perhaps reading the officlal GNU/GPL site will clear things up.

The developers who told you they are unhappy are simply trying to hoodwink you. They're trying to have their cake and eat it too. They are releasing commercial software and promoting it as being GPL but when someone actually exercises their rights under the GPL they seem to want to cry about it.

In some cases it might be that they just don't fully understand the ramifications of GPL licensing or perhaps they just want to benefit from the promotion of their product as being GPL while never intending to honor the license. In any case, they are the ones in the wrong because legally GPL software once released must remain GPL in the form in which it was released.

See.. and no name calling. A decent and well thought out response.
Your quite correct, i have very little understanding of the GPL licence and all its grey areas. I have even less of an understanding now...
I just make pretty pictures......

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 03:03 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008193)
*cough*retard*cough*

A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes.

Yes? and this would be argued in court with a lawyer not an internet troll.

Her image is different in design and colors used.

It is significantly different.

:1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 03:04 AM

GW Nobody is trying to hoodwink you.

This is a very hot subject that is never discussed on this forum.

Developers are forced to use the License and it's expected that people operate in an ethical manner... But they don't.. Greedy world we live in...

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008199)
Yes? and this would be argued in court with a lawyer not an internet troll.

Her image is different in design and colors used.

It is significantly different.

:1orglaugh

Your opinion doesn't matter. You're wasting pixels by typing. Nintendo is aware.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 03:09 AM

IM taking my kids to the park.. You all carry on. :)
NIce to meet you t-tom xxx

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008207)
IM taking my kids to the park.. You all carry on. :)
NIce to meet you t-tom xxx

Getting tired of switching browsers to post? k

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008200)
GW Nobody is trying to hoodwink you.

This is a very hot subject that is never discussed on this forum.

Developers are forced to use the License and it's expected that people operate in an ethical manner... But they don't.. Greedy world we live in...

Still waiting for Yo Mamma jokes. Come on jokey, let's hear 'em.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 03:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008200)
Developers are forced to use the License and it's expected that people operate in an ethical manner... But they don't.. Greedy world we live in...

The GPL is not forced on anyone. People are free to release software as GPL or under their own proprietary license.

It is true that if you develop a derivative work of Wordpress or any GPL software for that matter that you should inherit the license. However Wordpress does provide some scope to use the Serendipity or Habari license if a developer chooses.

Nobody is holding a gun to the head of developers, they can elect not to release derivative works of Wordpress which is GNU/GPL licensed itself or they can choose an alternative license.

Some developers of some Wordpress plugins which are protected proprietary works achieve this by separating the Wordpress derivative logic from the proprietary logic and then release the derivative logic under GPL and the proprietary logic under their own license.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008217)
The GPL is not forced on anyone. People are free to release software as GPL or under their own proprietary license.

It is true that if you develop a derivative work of Wordpress or any GPL software for that matter that you should inherit the license. However Wordpress does provide some scope to use the Serendipity or Habari license if a developer chooses.

Nobody is holding a gun to the head of developers, they can elect not to release derivative works of Wordpress which is GNU/GPL licensed itself or they can choose an alternative license.

Some developers of some Wordpress plugins which are protected proprietary works achieve this by separating the Wordpress derivative logic from the proprietary logic and then release the derivative logic under GPL and the proprietary logic under their own license.

He's not there anymore because she took the dogs to the park.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:27 AM

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Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008217)
The GPL is not forced on anyone. People are free to release software as GPL or under their own proprietary license.

It is true that if you develop a derivative work of Wordpress or any GPL software for that matter that you should inherit the license. However Wordpress does provide some scope to use the Serendipity or Habari license if a developer chooses.

Nobody is holding a gun to the head of developers, they can elect not to release derivative works of Wordpress which is GNU/GPL licensed itself or they can choose an alternative license.

Some developers of some Wordpress plugins which are protected proprietary works achieve this by separating the Wordpress derivative logic from the proprietary logic and then release the derivative logic under GPL and the proprietary logic under their own license.

It's ok to admit defeat and just back away.

It's good to see where your morals are at tho.

Not that I ever see having a reason to do business with you? Blog post writer?

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008225)
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You are a silly troll.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008233)
You are a silly troll.

Cool story bro. Come play.
https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1071621

AdultKing 06-16-2012 03:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008232)
It's ok to admit defeat and just back away.

It's good to see where your morals are at tho.

Not that I ever see having a reason to do business with you? Blog post writer?

If we take a legal standpoint, it's legal to copy , give away and resell GPL licensed software, it says so on the GPL official website and within the text of the license. Moreso, it's a condition of the license that those rights be enshrined within it.

Morally there is no issue, because it's perfectly legal and encouraged by the GPL to be able to copy, modify, resell or give away GPL software.

Blog Writer ? :1orglaugh No we'd never do business as I make it a policy to only do business with people who have some degree of clue which clearly you don't as you have been directed to the official GPL site which clearly states the state of play yet you keep pushing your broken wheelbarrow.

ottopottomouse 06-16-2012 03:58 AM

AdultKing, you're wasting your time.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19008261)
AdultKing, you're wasting your time.

Agreed :2 cents:

candyflip 06-16-2012 04:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008055)
These forums attract a certain type of troll like "Shoebox" that thinks the adult industry is cool and wants to hang out and be a part of it.

He has no real business interest, his only way to get attention is by being a troll on an adult related forum.

It makes him feel important that he can go and tell his buddies about all the inside info he learns and the new sites he hears about.. He may even tell people he "Works in adult."

Unfortunately his envy, jealousy and negativity will forever keep him from doing anything productive in life let alone in a gold mine like Adult.

1 month old nickname talks like he's been here for years. Likely been trolled off the site and banned before. Not even welcome here as himself.

Sad....

How old are you Shoebox? older than 30? Not a good look bro. :1orglaugh

What was your original GFY nick? Surely YOU of all people are willing to share that info with us.

Gotta love the low post count, less then 1 year old nicks who know the ins and outs and even inside jokes form here at GFY,

AdultKing 06-16-2012 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19008267)
Gotta love the low post count, less then 1 year old nicks who know the ins and outs and even inside jokes form here at GFY,

Obviously these nicks are previously banned for just this behavior, some of them are just gluttons for punishment, must fill their otherwise empty unsuccessful lives. :1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 04:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008242)
If we take a legal standpoint, it's legal to copy , give away and resell GPL licensed software, it says so on the GPL official website and within the text of the license. Moreso, it's a condition of the license that those rights be enshrined within it.

Ok.

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Morally there is no issue, because it's perfectly legal and encouraged by the GPL to be able to copy, modify, resell or give away GPL software.
Morals aren't based on laws.

Morals are based on what is right or wrong and what's right is what the developer/creator intended.

Gotta have morals man, sorry. Look at where this entire industry is at because of a lack of morals and ethics fueled by greed.

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse (Post 19008261)
AdultKing, you're wasting your time.

I'm SOO glad you spelled You're correctly. :thumbsup

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19008267)
What was your original GFY nick? Surely YOU of all people are willing to share that info with us.

Gotta love the low post count, less then 1 year old nicks who know the ins and outs and even inside jokes form here at GFY,

Aww look at you posting like a big boy. :1orglaugh

Man you are lucky nobody is left to call your fail ass out.

Barefootsies did very nicely tho.

candyflip 06-16-2012 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008161)
Stop picking at this.

Its obvious that she's not completely educated on the subject and you are just being a bully. :2 cents:

She's only educated on the subject because I explained it to her. And now she knows and acknowledges that she wasn't fully clear on the GPL.

candyflip 06-16-2012 04:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008273)
Aww look at you posting like a big boy. :1orglaugh

Man you are lucky nobody is left to call your fail ass out.

Barefootsies did very nicely tho.

Got an answer to the question? It's beyond obvious that you've been here before and under a different name.

What was the name you used before you had to open a new account for some reason?

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 04:35 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19008285)
Got an answer to the question? It's beyond obvious that you've been here before and under a different name.

What was the name you used before you had to open a new account for some reason?

Uhh moron i've been lurking these forums for almost 10 years.

You are not asking questions.

It's sad how Gimme-Website just wants to be friends after that BS you said to her.

But that's up to her.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 04:36 AM

lol @ candyflip having balls

candyflip 06-16-2012 04:39 AM

Doesn't take balls to question a fake nick troll. :winkwink:

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19008298)
Doesn't take balls to question a fake nick troll. :winkwink:

Neither does harassing a young girl. :1orglaugh

candyflip 06-16-2012 04:51 AM

So who were you before you needed to start a new nick? :winkwink:

PS. She's a big girl and seems to be able to stand and fight her own battles.

ottopottomouse 06-16-2012 05:04 AM

350 .

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by candyflip (Post 19008311)
So who were you before you needed to start a new nick? :winkwink:

PS. She's a big girl and seems to be able to stand and fight her own battles.

lol @ battles

HomeFry 06-16-2012 05:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008303)
Neither does harassing a young girl. :1orglaugh

Young girls don't have 4 kids.

mamaliga 06-16-2012 05:16 AM

Let me tell from my own business experience that trolling does bring sales, indeed.
Seems gimme website already developed the version 2 of the site

fris 06-16-2012 05:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19007858)
What happened to the legitimate people that contributed to this forum? No more troll killers? Look who's posting these days...

CandyFlip? ShoeBox? HomeFry ? Are you kidding me?

Irrelevant Trolls.

Gimme-Website called Fris out based on the ethics of the people on this forum. She was 100 percent right in doing so. Fris is taking advantage of a loop-hole to profit from other people's work.

Taking something that someone sells and giving it away for free or at a lower price is NOT OK here.

Fris has admitted that the people who create the content he is selling/giving away with his services DO NOT want him doing so.

Fris has been posting other people's Wordpress work and indirectly taking credit for it for years.

But everyone is cool and "appreciates" it because he's helping them out. :thumbsup

Anyone supporting Fris while working in adult is a hypocrite.

Why has this been completely blown out?

Trolls, Fake Nicks, Envious Competition, Women Haters, etc...

You also have morons like VDBucks who are only reading what the trolls are posting and not following both sides of the drama. Completely clueless.

What's ironic is the trolls are now trying to call Gimme-Website a "thief" for "stealing" a 8bit graphic of Green Mushroom but what Fris is doing is A-OK. :thumbsup Not the same at all.

Talk about hidden agendas.

Gimme-Website you acted completely reasonable while being harassed and attacked by idiots. Unfortunately this is the internet and idiots are trolls and trolls must be completely ignored. It's a personality defect to either be a troll or respond to trolls. It's hard to overcome but it is possible.

Why is it always the designers? Competition and they tend to be attention whores.

I'd like to respond to every bullshit comment made towards Gimme-Website in the last week but i'll leave it at that.

Congrats to the winnnarrs. :1orglaugh

nice to see you are back Lamis or Alex2002 after having those nicks banned.

you are refering to the threads I make posting themes and plugins, Ive always stated those arent mine i just post them when i get them via newsletters or rss feed updates.

you were banned 2 times for a reason.

I even had to say in the threads that I in no way created the themes just to satisfy you more than one occasion, Im sure i could dig up links of threads where you assumed it was mine.

I dont even care you have a 3rd or 4th nick, im not going to go emailing a mod or anything because I dont care what you have to say anymore.

fris 06-16-2012 05:31 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008061)
What are your sites or profession?

he ran some tgps or mgps back in the day, do a search on theads started by Lamis, he made many of them asking how to make money in adult since the tgp/mgp boom stopped.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 05:33 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 19008342)
nice to see you are back Lamis or Alex2002 after having those nicks banned.

Ahh, penny drops, I should have known it was him :1orglaugh

candyflip 06-16-2012 05:38 AM

I heard that TheButcher is in here stirring shit up too. :1orglaugh

fris 06-16-2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008346)
Ahh, penny drops, I should have known it was him :1orglaugh

he also claimed that masking affiliate links is a dirty practice.

like shortlinks like domain.com/go/paysitename ;)

read

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=15645804&postcount=27

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=16030078&postcount=7

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=17879515&postcount=23

hes had a hardon for me since 2008, getting all upset cause i wouldnt post my sites saying i was hiding cause of it.

lots of people dont post their sites, even when selling links in buy and sell.

you cant please everyone ;)

AdultKing 06-16-2012 06:06 AM

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Originally Posted by fris (Post 19008366)
he also claimed that masking affiliate links is a dirty practice.

like shortlinks like domain.com/go/paysitename ;)

He's a well established fuckwit, as dumb as dog shit.

I used to LOL at his posts asking to be spoon fed because he couldn't learn to read between the lines or develop any working strategy for himself. He's rather sad really.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18223826&postcount=37


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