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Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008051)
Hi Gimme-Website. Go fuck off now. You are still wrong. Oh, did you ever answer the question about stealing content and putting it on your client websites? No, I don't think you did. So, what's it gonna be? Are you going to admit it or not?

Oh, and it is actually WORSE! GPL may be a little fuzzy on the law regarding it. Copyright Infringement is not. It's very clear cut. Go learn dipshit.

Fris put himself at risk. YOU put your client at risk.

Why are you even allowed here? Relax the name calling you just come off as immature and mad.

GimmeWebsite made this troll account a year ago in preparation for this thread. Not only is GimmeWebsite a good designer, she's psychic! :1orglaugh

LOL @ you talking about copywrite infringement, you are clueless.

The amount of risk for Fris' clients is much greater it also involves more clients.

Are you just jealous of GimmeWebsite and you are desperate for any chance to attack her? Because you fools are reaching hard with this one.

I can't recall if it was you or Shoebox that claimed to be a designer. :1orglaugh

You and a few other fake nicks have spent a week raging on this girl for no reason at all. Other members have raged and insulted her based on incorrect assumptions and misunderstanding of the situation.

I'll be sure to send her work. I'm sure it will be more $$$ than you or anyone else could ever hope she'd lose from this fail trolling. :1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008061)
What are your sites or profession?

That information is not relevant to you, troll.

:1orglaugh

See? When you act like an idiot you can't go asking people for info like that. That type of information is reserved for respectable members of this community.

- Jesus Christ - 06-16-2012 01:41 AM

This drama is way too involved and there's no payoff.
You manginas should be watching daytime television reruns.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008069)

LOL @ you talking about copywrite infringement, you are clueless.

You're as bad as Gimme Website is.

Copying and distributing GPL licensed software is NOT COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Go and read about it from the horses mouth, the GNU/GPL license site rather than crap on with your lies.

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html

"Under the GPL you have

the freedom to use the software for any purpose,
the freedom to change the software to suit your needs,
the freedom to share the software with your friends and neighbors, and
the freedom to share the changes you make. "


"Developers who write software can release it under the terms of the GNU GPL. When they do, it will be free software and stay free software, no matter who changes or distributes the program. We call this copyleft: the software is copyrighted, but instead of using those rights to restrict users like proprietary software does, we use them to ensure that every user has freedom."

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 01:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008048)
Dude , the GPL explicitly allows you give away or resell GPL Licensed software. It also allows you to modify it then give it away or resell it. It's not even a grey area, it's explicitly stated in the license.

The real issue is that some developers license their commercial software using the GPL and then cry when people exercise their rights under the license.

Dont take my word for it, it's all explained here

You really should read up before you continue to make incorrect statements, you simply look foolish and uninformed.

"Developers who write software can release it under the terms of the GNU GPL. When they do, it will be free software and stay free software, no matter who changes or distributes the program. We call this copyleft: the software is copyrighted, but instead of using those rights to restrict users like proprietary software does, we use them to ensure that every user has freedom."

That's all fine and dandy with the GPL, but that's not the point.

The people who CREATED what Fris is giving away or selling say "We do not want you giving away or re-selling our content."

Fris is taking advantage of a legal loop-hole while costing businesses real clients and real sales.

Gimme-Website is perfectly inline with the ethics of this community. Gimme-Website was completely in the right to call him out.

You can take a swim in the lake. :1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008079)
You're as bad as Gimme Website is.

Copying and distributing GPL licensed software is NOT COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT.

Go and read about it from the horses mouth, the GNU/GPL license site rather than crap on with your lies.

Man you are freaking out. Relax.

The Copywrite infringement was in relation to her using the Mario Mushroom graphic. :thumbsup

Homeslice or ShoeHorn whoever the heck made that comment has no clue on the copywrite status of that little graphic. :1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 01:52 AM

Is Fris really suggesting his clients use an old version of Wordpress when they can't upgrade because they have an "illegal" copy of a plugin or theme?

Even the developer suggested that would be a risk.

lol

AdultKing 06-16-2012 01:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008085)
That's all fine and dandy with the GPL, but that's not the point.

The people who CREATED what Fris is giving away or selling say "We do not want you giving away or re-selling our content."

Fris is taking advantage of a legal loop-hole while costing businesses real clients and real sales.

No there is no loophole. If it's licensed as GPL then it's able to be given away and resold. Its not a loophole, its not a grey area.

I realise you are actually Gimme Website posting, but I am pointing this out because your outright LIES are misleading others.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008093)
Is Fris really suggesting his clients use an old version of Wordpress when they can't upgrade because they have an "illegal" copy of a plugin or theme?

Even the developer suggested that would be a risk.

lol

It's not an illegal copy, its a perfectly legitimate copy as the GPL allows software to be given away or resold.

Making profound misrepresentations like this help nobody and only go to confuse people when there is no confusion, however that's your intention I am sure.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:01 AM

You are right about the GPL nobody is arguing the GPL.

What you are doing is saying it's OK for Fris to take advantage of the GPL to use other people's work to make money.

OK that's cool, but you are wrong.

The creator does not want him giving away or reselling the content.

That's all that matters.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008102)
You are right about the GPL nobody is arguing the GPL.

What you are doing is saying it's OK for Fris to take advantage of the GPL to use other people's work to make money.

OK that's cool, but you are wrong.

It's perfectly ok for Fris to sell or give away GPL licensed software because that's what the GPL intended. Once you release GPL code you are basically bound to honor the license. Which means anyone who complains about their software being resold after they release it under the GPL has no leg to stand on.

By releasing GPL software you EXPLICITLY say that it's ok for people to give away or resell your software REGARDLESS of whether it's commercial or not.

I think it's time you stopped posting here as you're transparently Anna and are just aggravating the harm to yourself by doing so.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008105)
It's perfectly ok for Fris to sell or give away GPL licensed software because that's what the GPL intended. Once you release GPL code you are basically bound to honor the license. Which means anyone who complains about their software being resold after they release it under the GPL has no leg to stand on.

By releasing GPL software you EXPLICITLY say that it's ok for people to give away or resell your software REGARDLESS of whether it's commercial or not.

I think it's time you stopped posting here as you're transparently Anna and are just aggravating the harm to yourself by doing so.

LOL You sound like GideonGallery :1orglaugh

You can argue this all you want. What Fris is doing is wrong.

You are only hurting your OWN reputation defending Fris soo adamantly.

Lots of argument over this stuff being GPL.

Why do you keep calling GimmeWebsite by her first supposed name "Anna" it's extremely creepy.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 02:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008111)
LOL You sound like GideonGallery :1orglaugh

You can argue this all you want. What Fris is doing is wrong.

You are only hurting your OWN reputation defending Fris soo adamantly.

Lots of argument over this stuff being GPL.

Why do you keep calling GimmeWebsite by her first supposed name "Anna" it's extremely creepy.

Amazingly brazen response. Gideon supports piracy, copying free software and giving it away is not piracy.

You have no argument as the GPL site itself makes the situation crystal clear. It's not even a debate. It's just one person against the entire GNU/GPL system under which thousands if not tens of thousands of software products are licensed.

As you can't read I'll repost what the GPL allows and a link to the official GNU/GPL website for anyone gullible enough to believe what you are saying.

The GPL allows:

Quote:

the freedom to use the software for any purpose,
the freedom to change the software to suit your needs,
the freedom to share the software with your friends and neighbors, and
the freedom to share the changes you make.
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:28 AM

I really like you Tijuana_Tom. And if you do ever hit me up with a gig.. Heres 10% off.
(first time ive ever done that...)

I don't know if admin have the function to do so... But if they can, I invite them to check out my IP or whatever for 2nd nicks. I have had ONE account for the entire time ive been here.

Shoebox. I have answered your question in relation to Mushroom-gate here
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006769&postcount=31

Its been a blast.. and ive personaly learnt a few things.

1. Barefootsies is a real smart guy. He is also quite a gentleman and knows have to have a debate based on facts and not heresay....
2. Candyflip, Is actualy quite a nice guy when you take the heat out of the arguement and talk like human beings.
3. Yes... my on bourd personna needs to be toned down a little. I will endevour to be nicer to my competitors, *even if i think they are crap.

I suppose the next accusation will be from adultking claiming im Candyflip......

Now it's time to let this die. Fris has requested so.. I'm requesting the same thing.
Thanks for the traffic everyone. Its been quite a good week for my sales inbox....

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:29 AM

I want to see a new thread with all of you faill trolls, fake nicks and morons admitting what Fris is doing is unethical.

Gimme-Website gets a KUDOS from me for calling Fris out. Maybe the money laundering accusation was going overboard (Even if true) but everything else she meant with good albeit bad intentions.

No I don't give a fuu about Fris or GimmeWebsite for that matter.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008127)
Blah blah blah...

You don't seem to understand.

The GPL is a joke. :thumbsup

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:36 AM

I Never accused anyone of money laundering though.. gotta clear that one up.
I said using someone elses paypal to sell hooky warez is a great way to take any liability off your shoulders should the shit hit the fan. And im correct... it is.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008134)
I want to see a new thread with all of you faill trolls, fake nicks and morons admitting what Fris is doing is unethical.

Gimme-Website gets a KUDOS from me for calling Fris out. Maybe the money laundering accusation was going overboard (Even if true) but everything else she meant with good albeit bad intentions.

No I don't give a fuu about Fris or GimmeWebsite for that matter.

You realize that you are a troll, right? LOL idiot.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008142)
I Never accused anyone of money laundering though.. gotta clear that one up.
I said using someone elses paypal to sell hooky warez is a great way to take any liability off your shoulders should the shit hit the fan. And im correct... it is.

You said a lot of things that you should clear up. Like that YOU created that mushroom. I know for a fucking FACT that you didn't. Stop lying. You look like a bitch when you do.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:39 AM

Also GimmeWebsite I have experience to know that Fris' response to not having his own paypal is shady.

I wouldn't have accepted that response.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008150)
Also GimmeWebsite I have experience to know that Fris' response to not having his own paypal is shady.

I wouldn't have accepted that response.

Shut up weirdo.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008149)
You said a lot of things that you should clear up. Like that YOU created that mushroom. I know for a fucking FACT that you didn't. Stop lying. You look like a bitch when you do.

. I have answered your question in relation to Mushroom-gate here
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006769&postcount=31

AdultKing 06-16-2012 02:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008142)
I Never accused anyone of money laundering though.. gotta clear that one up.
I said using someone elses paypal to sell hooky warez is a great way to take any liability off your shoulders should the shit hit the fan. And im correct... it is.

You've just called GPL licensed software warez. How stupid are you ? :2 cents:

Free software can't be warez, it's free to sell and give away under it's license.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:41 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008147)
You realize that you are a troll, right? LOL idiot.

I am no Troll sir.

I will terrorize that blown out anus of yours with 1990s mother jokes.

You are NOTHING.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008156)
I am no Troll sir.

I will terrorize that blown out anus of yours with 1990s mother jokes.

You are NOTHING.

You are a troll. Go ahead. Terrorize me big boy.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008152)
. I have answered your question in relation to Mushroom-gate here
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006769&postcount=31

That link has nothing to do with an alleged answer.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008154)
You've just called GPL licensed software warez. How stupid are you ? :2 cents:

Free software can't be warez, it's free to sell and give away under it's license.

Stop picking at this.

Its obvious that she's not completely educated on the subject and you are just being a bully. :2 cents:

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:44 AM

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006811&postcount=32

My error.. MUchroom-gate answered here.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:47 AM

I'm pretty sure it was HomeFry I saw crying about GimmeWebsite in previous threads about her overly confident posts.

You were saying some shit about you are a much better designer she doesn't deserve all this credit blah blah blah

It's obvious to me your agenda here is that you are just bitter and jelly that you are a fail designer.

Maybe that was ShoeBox tho one of you fail trolls was crying.. I remember it because it made me look at GW portfolio and check her work for the first time..

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008163)
https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=19006811&postcount=32

My error.. MUchroom-gate answered here.

Maybe what you aren't understanding is that if it originated from another work, it must be entirely different in order to be considered unique and original.

If it's confusing, it is infringement and you will lose a lawsuit 100% of a time, and so will your clients.

Are you trying to get us all to believe that you don't see the similarity, and that the black word / outlines aren't exact?

Are you trying to get us all to believe that somehow, you magically laid out your pixels EXACTLY as the original mushroom that I posted, and that's just a coincidence?

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008167)
I'm pretty sure it was HomeFry I saw crying about GimmeWebsite in previous threads about her overly confident posts.

You were saying some shit about you are a much better designer she doesn't deserve all this credit blah blah blah

It's obvious to me your agenda here is that you are just bitter and jelly that you are a fail designer.

Maybe that was ShoeBox tho one of you fail trolls was crying.. I remember it because it made me look at GW portfolio and check her work for the first time..

I'm no designer.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008154)
You've just called GPL licensed software warez. How stupid are you ? :2 cents:

Free software can't be warez, it's free to sell and give away under it's license.

Im guessing you have a copy of this package too?
I do.... so if you REALLY want. We can go over it with a fine toothpick and see what's GPL in there and what isnt. Settle this one way or another.....

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008174)
Im guessing you have a copy of this package too?
I do.... so if you REALLY want. We can go over it with a fine toothpick and see what's GPL in there and what isnt. Settle this one way or another.....

Has Nintendo contacted you yet? I'm really curious what their take is on this topic.

AdultKing 06-16-2012 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008174)
Im guessing you have a copy of this package too?
I do.... so if you REALLY want. We can go over it with a fine toothpick and see what's GPL in there and what isnt. Settle this one way or another.....

I didn't buy a copy of the package, just for clarification, almost all of the plugins Fris offered I have already purchased myself.

I can tell you as a matter of fact, that all of the ones he offered that I have are GPL.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by AdultKing (Post 19008177)
I didn't buy a copy of the package, just for clarification, almost all of the plugins Fris offered I have already purchased myself.

I can tell you as a matter of fact, that all of the ones he offered that I have are GPL.

So how are you so confident that is is all 100% GPL in what he is selling when you dont even know its contents????

I know its contents.... And i think its best that we all let this die.

HomeFry 06-16-2012 02:56 AM

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Originally Posted by gimme-website (Post 19008179)
So how are you so confident that is is all 100% GPL in what he is selling when you dont even know its contents????

I know its contents.... And i think its best that we all let this die.

Sure, let the GPL thing die. It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Let's keep the other topic alive though. I'm still very interested in what Nintendo thinks about this. I also sent them links to you claiming ownership of the mushroom, as well as the live site where it can be found.

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:57 AM

*cough*derivative*cough*

Nintendo can sue anybody they want it's a grey area for designers. :1orglaugh

Tijuana_Tom 06-16-2012 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by HomeFry (Post 19008180)
Sure, let the GPL thing die. It's obvious you don't know what you're talking about. Let's keep the other topic alive though. I'm still very interested in what Nintendo thinks about this. I also sent them links to you claiming ownership of the mushroom, as well as the live site where it can be found.

:1orglaugh How old are you?

Nintendo doesn't give a shit about you son.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 02:59 AM

I will also be interested to hear what they have to say. ANd if we hear anything we will deal with it and share the news with you. NOw..lets all chill out.

gimme-website 06-16-2012 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Tijuana_Tom (Post 19008184)
:1orglaugh How old are you?

Nintendo doesn't give a shit about you son.

It does feel like your arguing with a angry 13 year old doesnt it....


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