Bin Ladens tapes.. Real or Fake? - GoFuckYourself.com

Martin · 02-11-2003, 01:46 PM

I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..

Sappy · 02-11-2003, 01:48 PM

You can totally tell it's Tony Danza. They're not fooling anybody.

Martin · 02-11-2003, 01:49 PM

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Originally posted by Sappy
You can totally tell it's Tony Danza. They're not fooling anybody.

stanton · 02-11-2003, 01:56 PM

those tapes are year old or something

just us government trying to show that sit, to get more people on their side to start the war....

...especially if it is on the cnn, ten it is pure bullshit

woodman · 02-11-2003, 01:59 PM

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Originally posted by stanton
those tapes are year old or something

just us government trying to show that sit, to get more people on their side to start the war....

...especially if it is on the cnn, ten it is pure bullshit

Arab network Al-Jazeera was the one who received and ran the tape. Just as they are the one to always run the tapes from Bin Laden. CNN just got a copy of it and rebroadcast it.

I suppose the Arab news networks are part of the conspiracy as well?

SquarePants · 02-11-2003, 02:00 PM

From what MSNBC said, he is asking for Saddam to be removed. I think that kills the US stance or other sayers that he was (Saddam) behind 9-11.

BigFish · 02-11-2003, 02:00 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..

idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

Martin · 02-11-2003, 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish

idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

So what.. The US controls Al-Jazeera.. It's the CNN of the east..

ZoiNk · 02-11-2003, 02:07 PM

Could be real of fake, just means the war will move ahead faster since it is there.
ZoiNk

woodman · 02-11-2003, 02:07 PM

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Originally posted by Martin

So what.. The US controls Al-Jazeera.. It's the CNN of the east..

That would be funny except for the fact that you are serious

Trax · 02-11-2003, 02:08 PM

the end is coming

pornjudge · 02-11-2003, 02:21 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..

Yeah totally fake with special effects

Brujah · 02-11-2003, 02:24 PM

I'm gonna go watch Wag the Dog again.

vegas2003 · 02-11-2003, 03:58 PM

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Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..

YOU ARE CORRECT-THINK ABOUT IT-BIN LADEN IS A BILLIONAIRE-WHY CAN'T HE GET A DECENT VIDEO CAMERA? you can't see or hear anything clearly on his supposed tapes!

vegas2003 · 02-11-2003, 03:59 PM

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Originally posted by SquarePants
From what MSNBC said, he is asking for Saddam to be removed. I think that kills the US stance or other sayers that he was (Saddam) behind 9-11.

BIN LADEN CONSIDERS SADDAM A BAD MUSLIM-THE 2 HATE EACH OTHER

JOH · 02-11-2003, 04:14 PM

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Originally posted by vegas2003
BIN LADEN CONSIDERS SADDAM A BAD MUSLIM-THE 2 HATE EACH OTHER

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/151406.shtml

Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'

The Arab TV network Al-Jazeera on Tuesday night aired the tape, in which a voice, apparently that of bin Laden, urged Muslims worldwide to unite behind Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Hate each other?????

vegas2003 · 02-11-2003, 04:26 PM

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Originally posted by JOH

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/151406.shtml

Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'

The Arab TV network Al-Jazeera on Tuesday night aired the tape, in which a voice, apparently that of bin Laden, urged Muslims worldwide to unite behind Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.

Hate each other?????

Saddam is a SECULAR DICTATOR-Bin Laden is a radical Islamist-they hate each other-the US gvmt is lying to drum up any support they can get for war-I agree with war, but not with Iraq-SAUDI ARABIA,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important

directfiesta · 02-11-2003, 04:54 PM

Who knows??? But when I hear a clear "tape" of Bush like this one:

http://downloads.warprecords.com/bushwhacked2.mp3

( it is old, but to the point)

I have to admit that it is easy to fabricate evidence ( unless this Bush speech is true... lol).

Bin Laden tape's are surfacing at a very convenient time, in a climate of terror sustained by the US & Britain ( both and only countries with "orange" or High Terror Alert).

I think that Bin Laden has always comunicated with video, and if he wanted to show that he is alive, he would of done so.

Now, is only the US able to do these types of operation: NO

At least one other countrie is capable and motivated to do so.

On this, let's keep our option open: they could be true, maybe they are not.

Rochard · 02-11-2003, 04:57 PM

Al-Jazeera is really operated by the CIA.

ChrisH · 02-11-2003, 05:07 PM

This audio tape is not the first one. The last time he released an audio as well.

I find interesting that this was released near the end of The Hajj.

Big Monkie · 02-11-2003, 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish

idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

Colin powell was telling a senate panel about it (he had a transcript!) before al-jazeera ever received the tape, idiot.

JOH · 02-11-2003, 05:14 PM

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Originally posted by vegas2003
Saddam is a SECULAR DICTATOR-Bin Laden is a radical Islamist-they hate each other-the US gvmt is lying to drum up any support they can get for war-I agree with war, but not with Iraq-SAUDI ARABIA,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important

Some agreement here with your statement ,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important , after Iraq those countries will have their day of reckoning.

Lying to drum up support? What is Saddam doing??? You fell for his lies, hook-line and sinker!

Go! Bush!!!

Big Monkie · 02-11-2003, 05:20 PM

Possibly fake, possibly not. But funny how these tapes are always such low quality that they can never be verified. I guess bin laden cant afford a $30 tape recorder! I think the guy is dead but its in some folks best interests to keep the threat alive.

The US has used faked taped before

Israel has used fake radio messages to trick the US into attacking Israel's enemies before

Computers can mimic any desired voice

Undutchable · 02-11-2003, 05:26 PM

There's a possibility that this is real. True, Bin Ladens ideology is different from Saddams and they don't like each other, but Osama might still suggest an Iraqi link to Al Qaeda... What Bin Laden wants is a global jihad, a ww3 if you will and it could be possible that he's trying to escalate the situation into this. So while there doesn't even have to be a link (which I think there isn't), he might still release something like that to advance his cause.

KrazieSweets · 02-11-2003, 05:29 PM

they should just buttfuck each other and get it over with already...

woodman · 02-11-2003, 05:47 PM

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Originally posted by Big Monkie
Possibly fake, possibly not. But funny how these tapes are always such low quality that they can never be verified. I guess bin laden cant afford a $30 tape recorder! I think the guy is dead but its in some folks best interests to keep the threat alive.

The US has used faked taped before

Israel has used fake radio messages to trick the US into attacking Israel's enemies before

Computers can mimic any desired voice

Be honest. Any evidence that is found will either be planted, fabricated, faked, or somehow manufactured by the US.

It is amazing the degree to which you guys think the US has the ability to go to fake or setup every scenario that benefits America. I'm not naive enough to say the the CIA or some other group has never done any of this
in the past, but to continue to say that every piece of evidence that is produced is fake is crazy

JOH · 02-11-2003, 06:02 PM

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...ld%2Dheadlines

Excerpts of Purported Bin Laden Tape

"We advise about the importance of drawing the enemy into long, close and exhausting fighting, taking advantage of camouflaged positions in plains, farms, mountains and cities. ... The enemy fears town fights and street fights."

Saddam rhetoric or Osamma Insanes?

HeadPimp · 02-11-2003, 06:03 PM

OK... who cares? The reality is the US government will do what it wants... We can bitch, whine, protest and all that, but they will do their own thing.

Is that good? Is it bad? I don't know. I don't know how things work at that level, and who pulls what strings, and who controls who. No one probably really does.

Just relax people and enjoy the ride!

Big Monkie · 02-11-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by woodman
I'm not naive enough to say the the CIA or some other group has never done any of this
in the past, but to continue to say that every piece of evidence that is produced is fake is crazy

I am not saying EVERY, but when almost every piece of "evidence" is highly questionable and unverifiable, doesnt it make you wonder? Do you remember how when bush said they had "irrefutable evidence" against osama for 9/11 but couldnt tell us? When it finally was leaked by some foreign govts it turned out to be a bunch of circumstantial ties that dont really prove anything. Are you not convinced, as i am, that bush and co decided long ago to invade iraq and are literally looking for something, anything, to justify it? Are you aware that poppy bush was head of the cia? And that his friends in the military industrial complex will profit to the tune of billions?
I dont claim to know what is really going on with either side here, but i do know i wouldnt trust bush, saddam, or anyone else involved. Only fools believe righteous politicians.

JOH · 02-11-2003, 07:42 PM

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Originally posted by HeadPimp
OK... who cares? The reality is the US government will do what it wants... We can bitch, whine, protest and all that, but they will do their own thing.

Is that good? Is it bad? I don't know. I don't know how things work at that level, and who pulls what strings, and who controls who. No one probably really does.

Just relax people and enjoy the ride!

Enjoy? This War is about free people, some are not willing to sacrifice, the USA will send our soldiers for countries/people inabilities to distinguish what is" right or wrong".

Enjoy War? Who is the opressor and who is the defender of freedoms?

War Sucks!!! I will not enjoy the ride!!!!!!

JOH · 02-11-2003, 07:53 PM

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Originally posted by Big Monkie

I dont claim to know what is really going on with either side here, but i do know i wouldnt trust bush, saddam, or anyone else involved. Only fools believe righteous politicians.

Who do you trust???

Are you in a "bubble", and ammune to all political sentiment?
Are you real???

02-11-2003, 01:46 PM	#1
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02-11-2003, 06:02 PM	#27
JOH Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 202	http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...ld%2Dheadlines Excerpts of Purported Bin Laden Tape "We advise about the importance of drawing the enemy into long, close and exhausting fighting, taking advantage of camouflaged positions in plains, farms, mountains and cities. ... The enemy fears town fights and street fights." Saddam rhetoric or Osamma Insanes? __________________ LOVE MY COUNTRY, USA!

02-11-2003, 01:48 PM	#2
Sappy Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 460	You can totally tell it's Tony Danza. They're not fooling anybody.

02-11-2003, 01:56 PM	#4
stanton So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,640	those tapes are year old or something just us government trying to show that sit, to get more people on their side to start the war.... ...especially if it is on the cnn, ten it is pure bullshit

02-11-2003, 02:00 PM	#6
SquarePants Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Illinois Posts: 408	From what MSNBC said, he is asking for Saddam to be removed. I think that kills the US stance or other sayers that he was (Saddam) behind 9-11.

02-11-2003, 02:08 PM	#11
Trax [----------------------] Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 14,486	the end is coming

02-11-2003, 04:54 PM	#18
directfiesta Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Montreal, Quebec Posts: 29,764	Who knows??? But when I hear a clear "tape" of Bush like this one: http://downloads.warprecords.com/bushwhacked2.mp3 ( it is old, but to the point) I have to admit that it is easy to fabricate evidence ( unless this Bush speech is true... lol). Bin Laden tape's are surfacing at a very convenient time, in a climate of terror sustained by the US & Britain ( both and only countries with "orange" or High Terror Alert). I think that Bin Laden has always comunicated with video, and if he wanted to show that he is alive, he would of done so. Now, is only the US able to do these types of operation: NO At least one other countrie is capable and motivated to do so. On this, let's keep our option open: they could be true, maybe they are not.

02-11-2003, 05:07 PM	#20
ChrisH Confirmed User Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,355	This audio tape is not the first one. The last time he released an audio as well. I find interesting that this was released near the end of The Hajj.

02-11-2003, 05:20 PM	#23
Big Monkie Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Asphalt Jungle Posts: 382	Possibly fake, possibly not. But funny how these tapes are always such low quality that they can never be verified. I guess bin laden cant afford a $30 tape recorder! I think the guy is dead but its in some folks best interests to keep the threat alive. The US has used faked taped before Israel has used fake radio messages to trick the US into attacking Israel's enemies before Computers can mimic any desired voice

02-11-2003, 05:26 PM	#24
Undutchable Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2002 Posts: 2,217	There's a possibility that this is real. True, Bin Ladens ideology is different from Saddams and they don't like each other, but Osama might still suggest an Iraqi link to Al Qaeda... What Bin Laden wants is a global jihad, a ww3 if you will and it could be possible that he's trying to escalate the situation into this. So while there doesn't even have to be a link (which I think there isn't), he might still release something like that to advance his cause.

02-11-2003, 05:29 PM	#25
KrazieSweets So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Southern California Posts: 1,060	they should just buttfuck each other and get it over with already...

02-11-2003, 06:03 PM	#28
HeadPimp Bad Mo-Fo Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 2,772	OK... who cares? The reality is the US government will do what it wants... We can bitch, whine, protest and all that, but they will do their own thing. Is that good? Is it bad? I don't know. I don't know how things work at that level, and who pulls what strings, and who controls who. No one probably really does. Just relax people and enjoy the ride!