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Martin 02-11-2003 01:46 PM

Bin Ladens tapes.. Real or Fake?
 
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..

Sappy 02-11-2003 01:48 PM

You can totally tell it's Tony Danza. They're not fooling anybody.

Martin 02-11-2003 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sappy
You can totally tell it's Tony Danza. They're not fooling anybody.
:1orglaugh

stanton 02-11-2003 01:56 PM

those tapes are year old or something

just us government trying to show that sit, to get more people on their side to start the war....


...especially if it is on the cnn, ten it is pure bullshit

woodman 02-11-2003 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stanton
those tapes are year old or something

just us government trying to show that sit, to get more people on their side to start the war....


...especially if it is on the cnn, ten it is pure bullshit

Arab network Al-Jazeera was the one who received and ran the tape. Just as they are the one to always run the tapes from Bin Laden. CNN just got a copy of it and rebroadcast it.

I suppose the Arab news networks are part of the conspiracy as well?

SquarePants 02-11-2003 02:00 PM

From what MSNBC said, he is asking for Saddam to be removed. I think that kills the US stance or other sayers that he was (Saddam) behind 9-11.

BigFish 02-11-2003 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..
idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

Martin 02-11-2003 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish


idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

So what.. The US controls Al-Jazeera.. It's the CNN of the east.. :321GFY

ZoiNk 02-11-2003 02:07 PM

Could be real of fake, just means the war will move ahead faster since it is there.
ZoiNk

woodman 02-11-2003 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin


So what.. The US controls Al-Jazeera.. It's the CNN of the east.. :321GFY

That would be funny except for the fact that you are serious

Trax 02-11-2003 02:08 PM

the end is coming

pornjudge 02-11-2003 02:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..
Yeah totally fake with special effects:Graucho

Brujah 02-11-2003 02:24 PM

I'm gonna go watch Wag the Dog again.

vegas2003 02-11-2003 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Martin
I say fake. Made by the US Gov to help build their case for war..
YOU ARE CORRECT-THINK ABOUT IT-BIN LADEN IS A BILLIONAIRE-WHY CAN'T HE GET A DECENT VIDEO CAMERA? you can't see or hear anything clearly on his supposed tapes!

vegas2003 02-11-2003 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SquarePants
From what MSNBC said, he is asking for Saddam to be removed. I think that kills the US stance or other sayers that he was (Saddam) behind 9-11.
BIN LADEN CONSIDERS SADDAM A BAD MUSLIM-THE 2 HATE EACH OTHER

JOH 02-11-2003 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vegas2003
BIN LADEN CONSIDERS SADDAM A BAD MUSLIM-THE 2 HATE EACH OTHER
http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/151406.shtml


Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'

The Arab TV network Al-Jazeera on Tuesday night aired the tape, in which a voice, apparently that of bin Laden, urged Muslims worldwide to unite behind Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.




Hate each other?????

vegas2003 02-11-2003 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JOH


http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/151406.shtml


Powell: Tape Shows bin Laden 'in Partnership With Iraq'

The Arab TV network Al-Jazeera on Tuesday night aired the tape, in which a voice, apparently that of bin Laden, urged Muslims worldwide to unite behind Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein.




Hate each other?????

Saddam is a SECULAR DICTATOR-Bin Laden is a radical Islamist-they hate each other-the US gvmt is lying to drum up any support they can get for war-I agree with war, but not with Iraq-SAUDI ARABIA,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important

directfiesta 02-11-2003 04:54 PM

Who knows??? But when I hear a clear "tape" of Bush like this one:

http://downloads.warprecords.com/bushwhacked2.mp3

( it is old, but to the point)

I have to admit that it is easy to fabricate evidence ( unless this Bush speech is true... lol).


Bin Laden tape's are surfacing at a very convenient time, in a climate of terror sustained by the US & Britain ( both and only countries with "orange" or High Terror Alert).

I think that Bin Laden has always comunicated with video, and if he wanted to show that he is alive, he would of done so.

Now, is only the US able to do these types of operation: NO

At least one other countrie is capable and motivated to do so.

On this, let's keep our option open: they could be true, maybe they are not.

Rochard 02-11-2003 04:57 PM

Al-Jazeera is really operated by the CIA.

ChrisH 02-11-2003 05:07 PM

This audio tape is not the first one. The last time he released an audio as well.

I find interesting that this was released near the end of The Hajj.

Big Monkie 02-11-2003 05:08 PM

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Originally posted by BigFish


idiot, Al-Jazeera released it. not the us government

Colin powell was telling a senate panel about it (he had a transcript!) before al-jazeera ever received the tape, idiot.

JOH 02-11-2003 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by vegas2003
Saddam is a SECULAR DICTATOR-Bin Laden is a radical Islamist-they hate each other-the US gvmt is lying to drum up any support they can get for war-I agree with war, but not with Iraq-SAUDI ARABIA,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important
Some agreement here with your statement ,N.KOREA and IRAN are more important , after Iraq those countries will have their day of reckoning.

Lying to drum up support? What is Saddam doing??? You fell for his lies, hook-line and sinker!


Go! Bush!!!

Big Monkie 02-11-2003 05:20 PM

Possibly fake, possibly not. But funny how these tapes are always such low quality that they can never be verified. I guess bin laden cant afford a $30 tape recorder! I think the guy is dead but its in some folks best interests to keep the threat alive.

The US has used faked taped before

Israel has used fake radio messages to trick the US into attacking Israel's enemies before

Computers can mimic any desired voice

Undutchable 02-11-2003 05:26 PM

There's a possibility that this is real. True, Bin Ladens ideology is different from Saddams and they don't like each other, but Osama might still suggest an Iraqi link to Al Qaeda... What Bin Laden wants is a global jihad, a ww3 if you will and it could be possible that he's trying to escalate the situation into this. So while there doesn't even have to be a link (which I think there isn't), he might still release something like that to advance his cause.

:2 cents:

KrazieSweets 02-11-2003 05:29 PM

they should just buttfuck each other and get it over with already...

woodman 02-11-2003 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Monkie
Possibly fake, possibly not. But funny how these tapes are always such low quality that they can never be verified. I guess bin laden cant afford a $30 tape recorder! I think the guy is dead but its in some folks best interests to keep the threat alive.

The US has used faked taped before

Israel has used fake radio messages to trick the US into attacking Israel's enemies before

Computers can mimic any desired voice


Be honest. Any evidence that is found will either be planted, fabricated, faked, or somehow manufactured by the US.

It is amazing the degree to which you guys think the US has the ability to go to fake or setup every scenario that benefits America. I'm not naive enough to say the the CIA or some other group has never done any of this
in the past, but to continue to say that every piece of evidence that is produced is fake is crazy

JOH 02-11-2003 06:02 PM

http://www.newsday.com/news/nationwo...ld%2Dheadlines

Excerpts of Purported Bin Laden Tape

"We advise about the importance of drawing the enemy into long, close and exhausting fighting, taking advantage of camouflaged positions in plains, farms, mountains and cities. ... The enemy fears town fights and street fights."



Saddam rhetoric or Osamma Insanes?

HeadPimp 02-11-2003 06:03 PM

OK... who cares? The reality is the US government will do what it wants... We can bitch, whine, protest and all that, but they will do their own thing.

Is that good? Is it bad? I don't know. I don't know how things work at that level, and who pulls what strings, and who controls who. No one probably really does.

Just relax people and enjoy the ride!

Big Monkie 02-11-2003 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by woodman
I'm not naive enough to say the the CIA or some other group has never done any of this
in the past, but to continue to say that every piece of evidence that is produced is fake is crazy

I am not saying EVERY, but when almost every piece of "evidence" is highly questionable and unverifiable, doesnt it make you wonder? Do you remember how when bush said they had "irrefutable evidence" against osama for 9/11 but couldnt tell us? When it finally was leaked by some foreign govts it turned out to be a bunch of circumstantial ties that dont really prove anything. Are you not convinced, as i am, that bush and co decided long ago to invade iraq and are literally looking for something, anything, to justify it? Are you aware that poppy bush was head of the cia? And that his friends in the military industrial complex will profit to the tune of billions?
I dont claim to know what is really going on with either side here, but i do know i wouldnt trust bush, saddam, or anyone else involved. Only fools believe righteous politicians.

JOH 02-11-2003 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by HeadPimp
OK... who cares? The reality is the US government will do what it wants... We can bitch, whine, protest and all that, but they will do their own thing.

Is that good? Is it bad? I don't know. I don't know how things work at that level, and who pulls what strings, and who controls who. No one probably really does.

Just relax people and enjoy the ride!

Enjoy? This War is about free people, some are not willing to sacrifice, the USA will send our soldiers for countries/people inabilities to distinguish what is" right or wrong".

Enjoy War? Who is the opressor and who is the defender of freedoms?

War Sucks!!! I will not enjoy the ride!!!!!!

JOH 02-11-2003 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Big Monkie


I dont claim to know what is really going on with either side here, but i do know i wouldnt trust bush, saddam, or anyone else involved. Only fools believe righteous politicians.

Who do you trust???

Are you in a "bubble", and ammune to all political sentiment?
Are you real???


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