mromro

If someone asked to see your birth certificate could you produce it?
I have mine in a box and everyone I know has them too.

So what the fuck is the problem with obama that he doesn't have it?

Answer--- he was born in Kenya.

Case closed.

thegreatestporn

I have mine in a special drawer at my folks house. Can't trust it at my own place. That or I could go to the county recorder office of the county where I was born...

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Rochard

I have mine in a safe behind me with my handguns. I also have a passport too.

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Rochard

Case closed.

Next dumb conspiracy theory...

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mromro

If someone asked to see it would it be a big deal? I'm going to answer for you because I think I know the answer.

You would say no problem, all it has is my name, mother and father's name and birth place..nothing to be ashamed of, if you have nothing to hide.

This is all a joke. any normal person knows this dude was born in kenya. Where are all the constitutional attorneys to bring this crap up.What are they afraid of?

mromro

Pic don't show up.

But I think the funniest part of that fake birth certificate is the race of father, it says African//LOLOLOLOOL
In the 60's it would of been negro ...african is a modern politically correct reference.

thegreatestporn

He's almost done with his presidency, they'll wait till he's out of office to prove anything so the country doesn't go into chaos.

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Threads like this are always helpful to alert us who the idiots are. Then you can just add them to the idiot list.
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Spunky

I would have to dig for it

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mromro

That's wrong though. They will never admit it.
If they did that would make every law and treaty he signed invalid because he never had the autority as president to sign anything. It was unconstitutional.

That's why I can't figure out why there are no lawyers going after this. What are they afraid of? They can't all be in on this.

thegreatestporn

Or can they, imagine the streets if everything he signed was suddenly invalid.

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CurrentlySober

In the UK, its a legal requirement to carry your birth certificate with you at all times, and present it to any figure of authority, for inspection, without question.

No 'keeping them in a box' for us, I'm afraid...

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baddog

My assistant could find it if I couldn't.

baddog

Really? Your birth certificate? What happens if you lose it or it falls in poo?

Rochard

Don't you think the entire Republican party would have gone on the offensive if they thought there was even the smallest doubt in their mind that he wasn't born in the US?

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Probably, this is going to be one of those "no one will ever know for sure" things.

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epitome

Perhaps Obama was insulted by the fact that just because he is mixed race his citizenship was called into question. It is really fucked up.

Anyway, he has since produced a certified copy of the original long form birth certificate as well as the computer printed certified copy supplied by the registrar that you get when you do not have your birth certificate and request one. There is also that pesky birth announcement that was printed in the local newspaper when he was born.

Everywhere accepts either one of those as they're signed by the person who is responsible for all state records, but apparently it's not acceptable if your father is from Kenya.

At this point it is just really insulting to the President.

The Clinton and McCain campaigns both went digging for dirt on their competitor and didn't bring it up... you know why? Because he was born in America.

At this point the birthers just look kooky or/or racist. Pick which one you wish to be labeled as. You may also choose both.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/defa...-long-form.pdf

thegreatestporn

I could care less about his birth certificate, odds are, he's a citizen. I just wonder what happened to all those anti-war protesters when he sent all the troops to Afghanistan. Actually, war in general...where are all the anit-war protesters? They sure were popular 5 years ago.

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lagcam

Then you must carry said poo with you.

This actually happens more times than you would imagine.

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v4 media

No it isnt.

ottopottomouse

Yes it is.

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v4 media

When the fuck did that happen?

CurrentlySober

Since the recent immigration explosion, and the government losing a 500,000 database of the names and adresses of who is legal and who is not.

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grumpy

How do you get a passport without a birth certificate?

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Barefootsies

I had lost it years ago, shortly after high school when I had moved a couple times.

I did not have to produce it until I wanted a passport, I then had to write the state to get a stamped copy. Which looks nothing like the original I had many years back. Apparently locally they shipped all of them (after a certain year) to Lansing. Long story short, I received it in a couple of months. I then got my passport.

I now have it locked up locally. However, I also have my passport, D.L., and original SSN card for the purpose of I.D. in addition to the birth certificate. While you are not asked for them often, you typically only need two.

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v4 media

Anyone can get a copy birth certificate though, you just go and apply for it. Doesn't even need to be yours. Or at least you used to be able to.

I had a mate that worked in the registrar used to sell blank ones.

SuckOnThis

Are you retarded or just trolling?

candyflip

In the US, a Passport will usually suffice as you need multiple forms of ID, including your Birth Certificate to be able to get one. It's the be all and end all for identification purposes.

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wow

My copy looked just like the original except for the paper it was printed on.

woj

what difference would it make anyway where he was born? It's a very minor detail, people are stirring shit up like it's some big deal...

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L-Pink

Makes a big legal difference if you want to run for President. Arnold Schwarzenegger for instance can be a governor but never president because he was borne in Austria.

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woj

it's just legal technicality, which 4 years into it is probably way too late to be discussing anyway...

from practical point of view, there is really no difference, the fact that he may have been born outside of the US makes him no less qualified to run the country...

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Excuse my simplified answer/example. Yea, it doesn't change ones qualifications for office.

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raymor

Welcome to five years ago. He FINALLY produced his birth certificate. He was born in the US. I don't like him and by the numbers he's a terrible president, but he wasn't born in Kenya.

It IS curious that with all the questions, with his aunt saying he was born in Kenya and all, why did it take two or three years for him to release it? Why was it such a big deal, something to hide? We'll probably never know.

If you want to move into 2012, the news is that flute his first book, his representatives were sending out a bio of him saying he was born in Kenya. That's not true, so it's interesting that he had his people lying about even the most mundane details to try to make him sound more interesting.

epitome

It's cute how you flip flop from one paragraph to the next.

SuckOnThis

So he WAS born in the US but now he was the one behind the whole birther thing? Thats a new twist. Whats next? Stalin arranged all this 70 years ago?

PornoMonster

If the repubs didn't do their job, BEFORE the election OH WELL. Let's not forget the People and electorial college elected him.

Do I like Him, NO
Do I want to know the Truth, YES.
Have I been Told, or will we ever know? Who knows.

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Sunny Day

Even if Obama was born in Kenya, his mother was a US Citizen. Makes him a US Citizen. End of story.

Friend of mine went with her mom (who would have been about 80 now), as her mom needed a copy of her birth certificate. She went to the local court house in Pennsylvania, as in PA they kept the only copy in the court house, until after World War II. Seems the court house burnt down years ago, so there's no record of her birth. Friend's mom went off on the clerk saying," you're telling me I don't exist? You're telling me my daughter and all my other children don't exist?"

Then there's my mom's cousin. She had to get an amended birth certificate. Until she was an adult, her certificate only said "baby girl" and her last name.

My birth certificate is on that old slick Xerox paper from the 50's. Every time I ask for a copy I get the same thing. Can't figure out where they still get that paper. My son was born in the same state. His looks nothing like mine.

Barefootsies

It is an amusing display...

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Dcat

Did you completely miss the rest of this story? The birth certificate the White House posted WAS proven FAKE. Not only that, the REAL issue is not whether or not he's American born (as required by the Constitution), it's the fact that he's probably not American born, so he is COMPROMISED.

SuckOnThis

Really? The birth certificate provided by the REPUBLICAN Governor of Hawaii was a fake? How some of you fucking people are able to turn a computer on is beyond me.

raymor

No, I'm sure he wasn't planning to run for president at the time his publicist was saying he was born in Kenya. I don't imagine they thought it would ever be an issue, that there would ever be "this birther thing". Come to think of it, a few years AFTER that is when he said he was totally unqualified to run for president, so he probably wasn't planning to run. He was just trying to be an interesting author and they took some liberty with the truth. That's not all that interesting, but that's what's new. The whole birth certificate thing is done and over with. Besides the fact that he IS president, so even if he hadn't been qualified to be elected for some reason, he was in fact elected and that's that.

raymor

Yeah one can actually look at facts on both sides rather than drink anybody's Kool-Aid. Imagine that. That's a flip-flop only if you think you have to choose between a) Obama is the messiah and can do no wrong or b) Obama is an undercover Islamicist terrorist. Those actually aren't the only two choices. One CAN think he's a guy, a politician, and sometimes takes liberties with the truth or behaves in strange ways.

In this case, an objective look at that facts, without trying to fit them to your agenda, tells us these things:
He was born in the US, as evidenced by his birth certificate.
He could have released that birth certificate within 48 hours of the question being brought up and it never would have been an issue.
He chose to let it go on for years, after the election, THEN release the dang birth certificate.

Those are the facts, if you think the facts flip-flop, so be it, the facts are what they are.

epitome

Please show me the link of the Hawaiian registrar saying their signature is faked or forged.

epitome

Your OP is what a politician would do. In the first paragraph you said he's legit and you call into question his legitimacy in your second paragraph. Now you are deflecting.

raymor

In the first paragraph I said he was bien in the US. I dud bot say he's cool dude, legit, or that I've decided to suck his cock, whatver comes out of it. Saying he was born in the US is NOT saying I worship whatver bullshit he spews, just that he was, based on the evidence, born in the US.

In the second paragraph, I questioned his strategy / reasoning / concerns / whatever for encouraging it to become an issue rather than just release the damn thing in the beginning. I'm able to ask questions about his strategy because I don't have his dick in my mouth.

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I agree 100%

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