Advertising on Consumnption Junction? - GoFuckYourself.com

QualityMpegs · 02-11-2003, 09:58 AM

One of consumption junctions advertising options is a 468x60 banner (site wide, not homepage) for $0.25 for 1000 page impressions. That'd be 400,000 page impressions for a banner for $100.

Has anyone tried this? Any ideas of how well this would do for a movie sponsor (not cookie cutter) with a decent banner?

QualityMpegs · 02-11-2003, 10:02 AM

oops, spelled it wrong in the subject

Interlude · 02-11-2003, 10:23 AM

What's your disfunction?

traffictrader · 02-11-2003, 11:01 AM

depends on what the ad is for.. but i really dont see much conversion, the average cj surfer is 13-26 yo boys looking for free porn and shit to gross them out... I really don't see them buying much

MarcWomack · 02-11-2003, 11:05 AM

Traffic Trader, not trying to flame or anything, but you're way off. A couple months ago we bought the Jupiter Media Metrix report on our site. You can see the results on our Demographics Page . Here's the age range:

: Age ::
18-24 29%
25-34 25%
35-44 32%
45-64 14%

The traffic averages conversions of 1/250 for TrafficCashGold, TopBucks, and NastyDollars. Reality sites like CollegeFuckFest do even better.

rooster · 02-11-2003, 11:08 AM

thats funny, so not one single surfer to the site is undr 18

Morgan · 02-11-2003, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
thats funny, so not one single surfer to the site is undr 18

nice observation.

superweb · 02-11-2003, 11:12 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
thats funny, so not one single surfer to the site is undr 18

Since it's adult site & surfers agreed that they're over 18 on warning page, there was no need to place "Under 18" option in the poll.

Dawgy · 02-11-2003, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by rooster
thats funny, so not one single surfer to the site is undr 18

aside from people on this board, everyone i know that goes to CJ is under 18.

cali_22 · 02-11-2003, 11:14 AM

waste of time

Sly_RJ · 02-11-2003, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by ConsumptionJunction
Traffic Trader, not trying to flame or anything, but you're way off. A couple months ago we bought the Jupiter Media Metrix report on our site. You can see the results on our Demographics Page . Here's the age range:

: Age ::
18-24 29%
25-34 25%
35-44 32%
45-64 14%

The traffic averages conversions of 1/250 for TrafficCashGold, TopBucks, and NastyDollars. Reality sites like CollegeFuckFest do even better.

So how did they miss out on a HUGE age bracket and everything still adds up to 100%?

In high school, everyone was surfing CJ. I'm sure you have a large audience of other ages as well, but...

MarcWomack · 02-11-2003, 11:14 AM

Actually, there was. It's not a poll. Jupiter Media Metrix tracks every move of over 100,000 surfers. They can tell you how long MS Word is open and in the background. The report did contain data on under 18, but it was less than 1%. Remember, we're talking about almost 7,000,000 people a month.

Dax · 02-11-2003, 11:17 AM

Anyone who has actually tried it.. has anything to say?

slapass · 02-11-2003, 11:18 AM

Just make sure you keep your eyes on it. They don't control all the ads on their site according to Marc so another advertiser ran the same ad right over mine. If I were to advertise their again I would ask for exclusivity during my advertising time. It was only for a day or so, that I could tell but sort of soured the experience. On the good side their traffic is very real as the people want to be there. Conversion is up to you but I got clicks.

Pipecrew · 02-11-2003, 11:19 AM

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Originally posted by ConsumptionJunction
Actually, there was. It's not a poll. Jupiter Media Metrix tracks every move of over 100,000 surfers. They can tell you how long MS Word is open and in the background. The report did contain data on under 18, but it was less than 1%. Remember, we're talking about almost 7,000,000 people a month.

come on man! its ok to admit it!

Rick Latona · 02-11-2003, 11:20 AM

I'm sure everyone doesn't feel like sticking up for us twice in one day. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=106725

QualityMpegs · 02-11-2003, 11:20 AM

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Originally posted by Sly_RJ

In high school, everyone was surfing CJ. I'm sure you have a large audience of other ages as well, but...

Back when I was in high school, consumption junction was definetely the craze amongst all the youngsters. Interesting that they only make up 1%.

QualityMpegs · 02-11-2003, 11:22 AM

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Originally posted by Rick Latona
I'm sure everyone doesn't feel like sticking up for us twice in one day. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=106725

I would just like to hear from actual people that purchased advertising space. I love consumption junction and would just like to hear how well people have done when advertising with them. Doesn't sound like a bad deal...unless noone clicks.

MarcWomack · 02-11-2003, 11:31 AM

Slapass, that customer running ads competing with yours was my fault. I should have been on top of that, and I apologize. As I said when you brought it to my attention, hit me up and I'll make it right. As for Quality MPEGS, check the thread at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=106725 for posts from people using our traffic, or feel free to call me on my cel at 404-808-3187 and I'll be glad to give you a list with contact details.

slapass · 02-11-2003, 11:42 AM

Sorry if that seems harsher then it was. The ad was in rotation so I just let it go as it was very short term and rotated with many other ads. Sorry i mentioned it. The traffic is good at CJ.

AaronM · 02-11-2003, 11:45 AM

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Originally posted by QualityMpegs
One of consumption junctions advertising options is a 468x60 banner (site wide, not homepage) for $0.25 for 1000 page impressions. That'd be 400,000 page impressions for a banner for $100.

Has anyone tried this? Any ideas of how well this would do for a movie sponsor (not cookie cutter) with a decent banner?

So...You got that CJ SPAM from Platinum Bucks too huh?

Allison · 02-11-2003, 11:54 AM

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Originally posted by QualityMpegs

I would just like to hear from actual people that purchased advertising space. I love consumption junction and would just like to hear how well people have done when advertising with them. Doesn't sound like a bad deal...unless noone clicks.

From my experiences with them, the advertising there is worth it. You'll get plenty of exposure and some good clicks, and assuming you have a decent ad and decent site/product you're advertising I think you'll be okay.

And as Marc said below, CJ is definitely the type of company to make it right if something did go wrong.

~Alli

gothweb · 02-11-2003, 11:59 AM

I don't think I get *any* email from PlatinumBucks except for spam about CJ.

machineg · 02-11-2003, 12:48 PM

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Originally posted by ConsumptionJunction

The traffic averages conversions of 1/250 for TrafficCashGold, TopBucks, and NastyDollars. Reality sites like CollegeFuckFest do even better.

it must be true .. they even boast it in this sickning banner

ZoiNk · 02-11-2003, 12:56 PM

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Originally posted by ConsumptionJunction

The traffic averages conversions of 1/250 for TrafficCashGold, TopBucks, and NastyDollars. Reality sites like CollegeFuckFest do even better.

Your stats or their stats? For example:

Traken from the statistician
http://www.thestatistician.com/03.html

TRAFFICCASHGOLD 101,767 38,780 35 $1,225.00 $0.00 0.0120 2908

101,767 hits sent, 38,780 counted by trafficcashgold. 1:2908 conversion

ZoiNk

MarcWomack · 02-11-2003, 01:09 PM

Those numbers are based on the program's stats. Different programs track using 1st page uniques, 2nd page raws, etc. To aggregate the data and compare apples to oranges, we simply take all the raw clicks we send to the programs in a 30 day period and the total # of joins. Understand this is averaging typically 750,000 clicks across 8 to 10 different affiliate programs. It winds up averaging from 1/300 to 1/500 off RAW clicks. We run pretty much everyone's programs. Anywhere from 25 to 50 different sites during the month. After 4 years of doing this, we know what converts and what doesn't off our traffic. That's the big difference when you buy ads from us. We'll scope out your site and figure out what is the best way to promote it. If we don't think it'll convert, wait--here's the difference, we'll actually tell you it won't convert. We'll tell you not to waste your money. How many people selling traffic do that?

khy · 02-11-2003, 02:14 PM

Began advertising w/ them on 2/3. We typically see lower new joins in Feb vs Jan, but for the period 2/3-2/10 we are up $500 in new joins over the same days in January.

The Epoch affiliate program has only credited them for 4 joins, but I suspect the Epoch program uses a 24 hour cookie? and will be switching over to our own tracking scripts that not only cookies for 30 days but tracks IPs. Hopefully I will be able to attribute more of our increased sales to this advert.

candyflip · 02-11-2003, 04:34 PM

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Originally posted by ConsumptionJunction
Actually, there was. It's not a poll. Jupiter Media Metrix tracks every move of over 100,000 surfers. They can tell you how long MS Word is open and in the background. The report did contain data on under 18, but it was less than 1%. Remember, we're talking about almost 7,000,000 people a month.

How do they know how old a surfer is?

FreeOnes · 02-11-2003, 05:00 PM

Marc email me I'm interested to buy some spots
webmaster @ freeones dot com

PerfectionGirls · 02-11-2003, 05:17 PM

I have bought ad space from them a couple times with decent results. The thirty day programs work the best and coupled with two or three different types of sponsorships. We did a video sponsorship which went well. It had a ton of chicks right up front, without much luck, but we converted on it in the long long because it stays in the achive for at least 30 days. I think we still get hits off a couple of the video sponsorships we did with them and that was back in Nov.

If I were to do it again.. I would do the video sponsorship, with the cj's favorite links (text links). Text links seem to be a good way to go on that site. Better conversions over all.

FreeNetPass Dave · 02-11-2003, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Dax
Anyone who has actually tried it.. has anything to say?

I will let you know at the end of the month.

So far 9387 clicks and 2 sales. Not so great yet.

Snapper · 02-11-2003, 05:55 PM

you get what you pay for. If it sounds to good to be true........

....it is.

02-11-2003, 09:58 AM	#1
QualityMpegs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,521	Advertising on Consumption Junction? One of consumption junctions advertising options is a 468x60 banner (site wide, not homepage) for $0.25 for 1000 page impressions. That'd be 400,000 page impressions for a banner for $100. Has anyone tried this? Any ideas of how well this would do for a movie sponsor (not cookie cutter) with a decent banner? Last edited by QualityMpegs; 02-11-2003 at 10:01 AM..

02-11-2003, 11:01 AM	#4
traffictrader Confirmed User Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: ICQ# 93507395 Posts: 1,331	depends on what the ad is for.. but i really dont see much conversion, the average cj surfer is 13-26 yo boys looking for free porn and shit to gross them out... I really don't see them buying much __________________

02-11-2003, 11:05 AM	#5
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Traffic Trader, not trying to flame or anything, but you're way off. A couple months ago we bought the Jupiter Media Metrix report on our site. You can see the results on our Demographics Page . Here's the age range: : Age :: 18-24 29% 25-34 25% 35-44 32% 45-64 14% The traffic averages conversions of 1/250 for TrafficCashGold, TopBucks, and NastyDollars. Reality sites like CollegeFuckFest do even better. __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant

02-11-2003, 11:14 AM	#12
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Actually, there was. It's not a poll. Jupiter Media Metrix tracks every move of over 100,000 surfers. They can tell you how long MS Word is open and in the background. The report did contain data on under 18, but it was less than 1%. Remember, we're talking about almost 7,000,000 people a month. __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant

02-11-2003, 11:20 AM	#16
Rick Latona The Best Ideas Start Here Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Atlanta Posts: 6,037	I'm sure everyone doesn't feel like sticking up for us twice in one day. http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...hreadid=106725 __________________ Regards, Rick Latona http://latonas.com Latona's - We Sell Money Making Web Properties Note to buyers of websites and traffic: please check our inventory at http://latonas.com/websites-for-sale. If you would like to make an offer on something, just let me know.

02-11-2003, 10:02 AM	#2
QualityMpegs Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Orlando, Florida Posts: 3,521	oops, spelled it wrong in the subject

02-11-2003, 10:23 AM	#3
Interlude Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: State of Denial Posts: 1,147	What's your disfunction?

02-11-2003, 11:08 AM	#6
rooster Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,384	thats funny, so not one single surfer to the site is undr 18

02-11-2003, 11:14 AM	#10
cali_22 Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Whistler BC Posts: 2,330	waste of time

02-11-2003, 11:17 AM	#13
Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	Anyone who has actually tried it.. has anything to say?

02-11-2003, 11:18 AM	#14
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Just make sure you keep your eyes on it. They don't control all the ads on their site according to Marc so another advertiser ran the same ad right over mine. If I were to advertise their again I would ask for exclusivity during my advertising time. It was only for a day or so, that I could tell but sort of soured the experience. On the good side their traffic is very real as the people want to be there. Conversion is up to you but I got clicks.

02-11-2003, 11:31 AM	#19
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Slapass, that customer running ads competing with yours was my fault. I should have been on top of that, and I apologize. As I said when you brought it to my attention, hit me up and I'll make it right. As for Quality MPEGS, check the thread at http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showt...threadid=106725 for posts from people using our traffic, or feel free to call me on my cel at 404-808-3187 and I'll be glad to give you a list with contact details. __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant

02-11-2003, 11:42 AM	#20
slapass Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Earth Posts: 14,625	Sorry if that seems harsher then it was. The ad was in rotation so I just let it go as it was very short term and rotated with many other ads. Sorry i mentioned it. The traffic is good at CJ.

02-11-2003, 11:59 AM	#23
gothweb Confirmed User Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Back in the USSA Posts: 8,849	I don't think I get any email from PlatinumBucks except for spam about CJ. __________________ Photos by Ian X.: Distinctive photos of goth babes. Blood Money:Your traffic, my sites, our money. MojoHost: Still the best.

02-11-2003, 01:09 PM	#26
MarcWomack Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2002 Location: Manila, Philippines Posts: 529	Those numbers are based on the program's stats. Different programs track using 1st page uniques, 2nd page raws, etc. To aggregate the data and compare apples to oranges, we simply take all the raw clicks we send to the programs in a 30 day period and the total # of joins. Understand this is averaging typically 750,000 clicks across 8 to 10 different affiliate programs. It winds up averaging from 1/300 to 1/500 off RAW clicks. We run pretty much everyone's programs. Anywhere from 25 to 50 different sites during the month. After 4 years of doing this, we know what converts and what doesn't off our traffic. That's the big difference when you buy ads from us. We'll scope out your site and figure out what is the best way to promote it. If we don't think it'll convert, wait--here's the difference, we'll actually tell you it won't convert. We'll tell you not to waste your money. How many people selling traffic do that? __________________ Regards, MarcWomack.com Internet Advertising & Outsourcing Consultant

02-11-2003, 02:14 PM	#27
khy Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 135	Began advertising w/ them on 2/3. We typically see lower new joins in Feb vs Jan, but for the period 2/3-2/10 we are up $500 in new joins over the same days in January. The Epoch affiliate program has only credited them for 4 joins, but I suspect the Epoch program uses a 24 hour cookie? and will be switching over to our own tracking scripts that not only cookies for 30 days but tracks IPs. Hopefully I will be able to attribute more of our increased sales to this advert.

02-11-2003, 05:00 PM	#29
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02-11-2003, 05:17 PM	#30
PerfectionGirls Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: MI Posts: 4,484	I have bought ad space from them a couple times with decent results. The thirty day programs work the best and coupled with two or three different types of sponsorships. We did a video sponsorship which went well. It had a ton of chicks right up front, without much luck, but we converted on it in the long long because it stays in the achive for at least 30 days. I think we still get hits off a couple of the video sponsorships we did with them and that was back in Nov. If I were to do it again.. I would do the video sponsorship, with the cj's favorite links (text links). Text links seem to be a good way to go on that site. Better conversions over all. __________________ SIG TOO BIG! Maximum 120x60 button and no more than 3 text lines of DEFAULT SIZE and COLOR. Unless your sig is for a GFY top banner sponsor, then you may use a 624x80 instead of a 120x60.

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