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p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 03:44 AM

I really really dont want to shoot myself in the foot here.. but i think I should let people know about a possible affiliate fucking you over.. or it is possible even that he/she is not.. and its all a coincidence.

let say X affiliate sends 7 sales.. and X affiliates signups all charged back or got credited...

that enough to terminate his/her ass or not?

And if so, should i post the persons name or, or ask to be emailed in private to hand out the info for the sponsor to look them up and see if they have em..

if you are interested send me an email webmaster @ epic cash . com and I will give you the name of the person.. and please include what program you run.. so i dont feel guilty about handing out personal info...

If this is unethical, let me know cause I cant make up my mind on what todo.

02-11-2003, 03:46 AM

deja vu?

p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 03:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Equinox
deja vu?

nah, this is a different person.. but this one has pissed me off..

ControlThy · 02-11-2003, 03:59 AM

If you are certain he is involved in fraud, I see no problem in sharing his name with other webmaster programs. This is happening already actually. (CEN, CE...)

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FATPad · 02-11-2003, 04:03 AM

You seem to have a lot of people sending 7 signups that are all charged back.

p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 04:04 AM

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Originally posted by FATPad
You seem to have a lot of people sending 7 signups that are all charged back.

you are mistaken..
the 1st guy sent 7 and they didnt charge back or get credited.. they only canceled right away.

this guy all charged back accept 1 which was a credit.

i also wouldnt call alot of ppl 2.. would you?

FATPad · 02-11-2003, 04:06 AM

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Originally posted by p{mpd0g

you are mistaken..
the 1st guy sent 7 and they didnt charge back or get credited.. they only canceled right away.

this guy all charged back accept 1 which was a credit.

D'oh!

Hmm....well at least I got the number right.

WiredGuy · 02-11-2003, 04:13 AM

Look at his referral URL's to see where he's sending signups from. Take a look for patterns in the credit cards to see if there's fraud going on.

WG

Kimmykim · 02-11-2003, 05:16 AM

You process with Epoch right? email [email protected] and ask him to look at the reseller in question. He can tell you in a matter of a day if they think the guy is fraud.

Tho personally with 7 credits on 7 sales I can pretty much guarantee you it is... check the ip for matching blocks or proxies.

p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 05:20 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kimmykim
You process with Epoch right? email [email protected] and ask him to look at the reseller in question. He can tell you in a matter of a day if they think the guy is fraud.

Tho personally with 7 credits on 7 sales I can pretty much guarantee you it is... check the ip for matching blocks or proxies.

I create the reseller account in my program.. not epoch.. so we cant track it that way.. but we could track it by member ID...

I have looked at the members and all the info is different.. dif state, country, email , name etc.. nothing is consistent or similar in regards to the members information.... Im assuming the ip's will be differnt aswell..

aleck · 02-11-2003, 05:24 AM

were that signups scattered in time or went in pack?

p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 05:29 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by aleck
were that signups scattered in time or went in pack?

all done within a 5 day period

SR · 02-11-2003, 05:42 AM

Looks like fraud.
Can't you see the referring url?
Maybe he was telling lies on his site and promissed alot more then you have to offer inside but then 6/7 chargebacks is still crazy.

CTR · 02-11-2003, 05:42 AM

It sounds like "Carders" have found your affiliate program, they are a real pain in the ass

p{mpd0g · 02-11-2003, 05:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by SR
Looks like fraud.
Can't you see the referring url?
Maybe he was telling lies on his site and promissed alot more then you have to offer inside but then 6/7 chargebacks is still crazy.

yea i saw the gallery he was using.. doesnt look suspicious at all.. but that doesnt mean anything.. could just be a front.. something looks totally normal, but is being used as a gateway to get the sales and not draw attention..

who knows.. I just dont see the odds of that happening..
also he/she has a foreign name and address is in houston texas heh.. possible mail drop.. or maybe he defected to houston lol.. its kind of fun playing detective.

Theo · 02-11-2003, 06:11 AM

maybe the traffic came from choker's system

Niki · 02-11-2003, 06:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Soul_Rebel
maybe the traffic came from choker's system

or maybe his sites simply suck

funkmaster · 02-11-2003, 06:51 AM

epoch´s fraud detection is pretty slick, normaly you´ll get an email of them before you find out yourself ...

Sly_RJ · 02-11-2003, 09:44 AM

Fuck you Trey. My gallery was legit. Why are you always trying to rat me out?

GTS Mark · 02-11-2003, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sly_RJ
Fuck you Trey. My gallery was legit. Why are you always trying to rat me out?

Whoooa shit I thought it was me for a second

DH

Sly_RJ · 02-11-2003, 09:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by DrinkingHard

Whoooa shit I thought it was me for a second

DH

Yours is fine. Keep sending those sign-ups!

angelsofporn · 02-11-2003, 10:20 AM

thats what i'm afraid of..I'd like to offer per signup but seems like you could get screwed pretty easily...If you cross sale you can sponge the losses cuz your profit margins are higher but i dont really want to do that

02-11-2003, 03:44 AM	#1
p{mpd0g So Fucking Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 97	affiliate fraud? I really really dont want to shoot myself in the foot here.. but i think I should let people know about a possible affiliate fucking you over.. or it is possible even that he/she is not.. and its all a coincidence. let say X affiliate sends 7 sales.. and X affiliates signups all charged back or got credited... that enough to terminate his/her ass or not? And if so, should i post the persons name or, or ask to be emailed in private to hand out the info for the sponsor to look them up and see if they have em.. if you are interested send me an email webmaster @ epic cash . com and I will give you the name of the person.. and please include what program you run.. so i dont feel guilty about handing out personal info... If this is unethical, let me know cause I cant make up my mind on what todo. Last edited by p{mpd0g; 02-11-2003 at 03:48 AM..

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02-11-2003, 04:13 AM	#8
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02-11-2003, 05:24 AM	#11
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02-11-2003, 03:59 AM	#4
ControlThy Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 1,909	If you are certain he is involved in fraud, I see no problem in sharing his name with other webmaster programs. This is happening already actually. (CEN, CE...) We accept mailer traffic! Start promoting fresh sites! Click here for more information.

02-11-2003, 05:16 AM	#9
Kimmykim bitchslapping zebras!!!!! Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: In a shack by the beach Posts: 16,015	You process with Epoch right? email [email protected] and ask him to look at the reseller in question. He can tell you in a matter of a day if they think the guy is fraud. Tho personally with 7 credits on 7 sales I can pretty much guarantee you it is... check the ip for matching blocks or proxies.

02-11-2003, 05:42 AM	#13
SR Confirmed User Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: The Netherlands Posts: 2,239	Looks like fraud. Can't you see the referring url? Maybe he was telling lies on his site and promissed alot more then you have to offer inside but then 6/7 chargebacks is still crazy.

02-11-2003, 05:42 AM	#14
CTR Registered User Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 2	It sounds like "Carders" have found your affiliate program, they are a real pain in the ass

02-11-2003, 06:11 AM	#16
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	maybe the traffic came from choker's system

02-11-2003, 06:51 AM	#18
funkmaster So Fucking Banned Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: shell beach Posts: 7,938	epoch´s fraud detection is pretty slick, normaly you´ll get an email of them before you find out yourself ...

02-11-2003, 10:20 AM	#22
angelsofporn Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: CA Posts: 3,218	thats what i'm afraid of..I'd like to offer per signup but seems like you could get screwed pretty easily...If you cross sale you can sponge the losses cuz your profit margins are higher but i dont really want to do that

02-11-2003, 03:46 AM	#2
X37375787 Guest Posts: n/a	deja vu?