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Old 05-03-2012, 12:23 PM   #51
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For me the good porn is where there are the preconditions of the whole sex.
How the whole thing lead to the fuck. The sex may continue 1 minute including the shower or 2 hours - but the interesting thing to me is the idea.
Nothing original with US or EU sex movies.
The japanese porn for example gives me a lot food to think or fap if you want. Here are some samples.
1. the forecast for weather. - those pretty japanese gurls who are announcing the news and some random guys are splashing their faces in air....
2. japanese game shows - where married couple comes, the wife should recognize her man among several other guys who shows their cocks from a hole in wall. And she's never sure that the cock she sucked is her husband's.
3. "sport" programs - where naked japanese chicks are playing basketball while there are some dildos, balls in their pussies. The one who "drops" the toy goes out. It's a skill game - for the vaginal muscles.
4. store clerks - sexy girl is selling muffins while at same time a guy is fingering or fucking her /out of client's sight/. The interesting thing is that she has to keep her face calm...

5. Beauty in school uniform - short skirt getting fucked in subway or bus.

6. Movies with plot. Man goes out for work, leaving his wife at home. She's washing the dishes for awhile, then goes to the window and waves at the building in front. There's a guy who probably was staying all the time waiting for her to wave at him. That's the signal for him to come. She's going at bathroom. Taking off her panties and with the telephone shower she washes her pussy. Then she's putting panties on, frantically putting order with her clothes and hair. Then guy comes in. Brief dialogue. The man saying something ( I don't get what, cuz it's japanese) - she responds back with impudence. Bitch Slap, and voila she's submissive. She willingly and by herself is taking off her clothes, just leaving the blouse on. Bends over on the kitchen table and spreads her butt cheeks. Then she turns her head to the guy/ or the camera and gives one of these looks that makes my cock hard. Then comes the sex, which is not so interesting to me, and a cumshot inside. The is putting his clothes on, and goes out. The woman stays on her back on kitchen table, shaking with convulses after the rough fuck, while the semen is pouring out of her vaj. The thing is that there are plates on the table.... The woman continues to wash the dishes with mysteriousness smile on her face.

Okay I'm done. Don't hate me.
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Old 05-03-2012, 12:27 PM   #52
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personnally, i'm tired to see everywhere blowjob pictures...
I need something new...
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:22 PM   #53
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Camera angles. When I have to tilt my head 90 to 180 degrees to watch while fappin'

Wonder what goes thru some of these guys heads, its like a fucking roller coaster.
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take clothes off...oral...2-3 poses...cumshot... I just described 95% of porn...It's like the movie industry was to film remakes of Rambo over and over and over and over and over and over how the fuck do you expect to keep selling the same thing?

so what I dislike about porn is that very few talented producers exist....the scene is bursting with mediocrity...people who make a half ass effort at mediocrity...no imagination whatsoever...

I also dislike the complete inability of most producers to transfer sexual feelings and "vibes" to the viewer...my theory is that you have to be really good at sex to be able to know how to indeed make and film it...very few people are really good...

kink.com nailed it with their SM stuff...people who do not like SM do not understand it...the term "rape" or "consensual rape" as the OP pointed out is false...it really has nothing to do with rape...you would be surprised at how many women enjoy S/M and how angry they get when you refuse to deliver but It's certainly not everybody's cup of tea...
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The post needed to be made, well done
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First ever thread on GFY that starts to address one of the REAL reasons that porn is dying on it's feet.
Not exactly true. First one in a while, but there have been others.

Hell I posted a thread like this over 5 years ago now that I think of it. Most producers didn't listen then and I daresay few if any will change their boneheaded ways now.
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Old 05-03-2012, 01:55 PM   #58
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kink.com nailed it with their SM stuff...people who do not like SM do not understand it...the term "rape" or "consensual rape" as the OP pointed out is false...it really has nothing to do with rape...you would be surprised at how many women enjoy S/M and how angry they get when you refuse to deliver but It's certainly not everybody's cup of tea...
I know, and i hear ya - and I don't want to come across as "anti-BDSM" or whatever. But we live in a SICKO world, and when I see a woman tied down (seemingly against her will) and dude after dude doing intense things to her I think: "Somewhere, right now, a woman is being treated exactly like that, against her will." I wonder how many women would be so "into it" if they thought about that more. Just sayin'.

But again: I'm the last one to talk so whatever gets you thru the night....LOL
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Surprised no one mentioned the mountains of colorful unrealistic makeup they wear. No wonder amateur porn is so popular, it's REAL.

And I agree about the money shot scenes, or any scenes for that matter that have majority dick on the screen. I don't want to watch a guy jackoff for 10 minutes until he cums. Pull out and bust out bing bang boom.
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kink.com nailed it with their SM stuff...people who do not like SM do not understand it...the term "rape" or "consensual rape" as the OP pointed out is false...it really has nothing to do with rape...you would be surprised at how many women enjoy S/M and how angry they get when you refuse to deliver but It's certainly not everybody's cup of tea...
Kink.com is also great at interviewing before and after in an honest and open way, setting up the clear element of fantasy and getting enthusiastic and intellectual consent of all those involved. Besides, let's not forget that, for every scene of a woman being hurt or degraded, there is a scene with a man being hurt or degraded... Everyone gets a turn. I've spoken with many performers from the site and they seriously love what they do and are incredibly passionate about having a safe, respectful environment to live out their fantasies.
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Surprised no one mentioned the mountains of colorful unrealistic makeup they wear. No wonder amateur porn is so popular, it's REAL.
My biggest pet peeve in porn is shitty cream eyeshadow, especially the mauve stuff. It's so damn tacky.
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Big-boob babes in a hot solo or fuck scene that start sucking on their own nipples and looking at the camera. I have rarely been so turned off, made to laugh so suddenly or been driven back by such a retarded looking act.

But, that's just me :P
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the birds spitting on cocks during oral. Wtf, real proper 'pteh' 'pteh' jobs as well. Does *nothing* and just makes me think wtf is that stupid cunt doing?
Same thing with the dude spitting on a chick's pussy then licking her.. Hmm.. Is she dry? Just maybe you fucking suck at what you're doing.. Spit is not going to get her all horny and wet. I find this to be very idiotic.
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when is the last time you had a mindblowing sex experience?
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What needs to happen is whoever is filming the crap that's out these days has to look at things in the eyes of the viewer. Make a porn that YOU would actually watch. Make a porn that would actually turn YOU on.. etc.. Don't just make a porn cause you think "this will make us a lot of money" and forget about what actually goes into it.

It's always the same shit over and over and they wonder why sales in the porn industry are so low for the most part. Sure, tubes and other illegal sites may be dipping into your profits, but the biggest problem is the shitty porn that they put out and expect people to spend their $ on. you want people to actually sped $? Start making a product that's worth it. Why would someone want to pay for your crappy porn when they can just go download one for free that's exactly the same as what you just released for the exception of the "actors" (I used this term very loosely) on the movie?

porn, the way it's been for a very long time, is basically like if the mainstream movie industry decided 20 years ago that all they will do from now on is copy some random movie that was total crap and remake it, but use different actors. While they do that they are expecting to make a fortune from it.. That is insanity. Repeating the same shit over and over expecting different results.. Isn't the way business is now enough proof that things need to change?

of course, no one will do this because they think they know everything. They are "porn gods".. Sure, if that's what you want to believe go right ahead, but expect to fail.
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Agree with most except the facials. That's a big seller, people love that shit and there's an obvious domination/submission psychological element to that.

Number one I probably agree with the most. I always assumed part of watching porn was the fantasy of "hey that could be me" so why is there always some douchey porn guy? I guess you work with who you have.
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I know, and i hear ya - and I don't want to come across as "anti-BDSM" or whatever. But we live in a SICKO world, and when I see a woman tied down (seemingly against her will) and dude after dude doing intense things to her I think: "Somewhere, right now, a woman is being treated exactly like that, against her will." I wonder how many women would be so "into it" if they thought about that more. Just sayin'.

But again: I'm the last one to talk so whatever gets you thru the night....LOL
Kind of agree with you, taking pain by free will, i can get that i guess, but giving pain and getting off on it...
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Living a life of a pornmeister I, like most of you, "get to" (oh joy) watch seemingly endless hours of raw, nasty fucking. WooHoo! Except....well, I see some of the same shit over and over again that I CANNOT STAND TO LOOK AT ANYMORE so was just wondering if others felt the same way about some of these:

* Bald guys fucking. i do NOT want to watch some Nazi skinhead gym/roid fag pound some girl as she pretends to just "love it".

* Cumshots on the face. I know, how can someone complain about "the money shot"? Well, the girl usually jumps off the stunt dick so quick to "get in position" that it looks fucking ridiculous. Besides, some of these dudes need to jack it forever just to cum, after endlessly fucking like a machine. So isn't he just masturbatingon a chick? Ridiculous.

* Green couch sex. (Okay, ANY "bright colored" couch). The scene starts, we see a damn UGLY green couch, and boring mechanical sex. PLEASE get some new sets.

* Slapping, punching, choking, violent sex. I consider these scenes, where the guy is basically abusing the girl, 'consensual rape scenes' and I find them disgusting. Most 'adult performers' need to get angry (and/or drugged up) just to do these kins of scenes and, again, they make me sick.

* Let's see how many dicks we can fuck. Line 'em up, fuck the shit out of a girl...again, looks like consensual gang rape to me. And all those guys, dicks out, waiting to be serviced is totally gay to me.

* DP - c'mon people. This is 'freak sex'. Let's see how many cocks (or objects) we can stuff inside some holes. Gross. And guys: you basically have another dude's cock right next to yours or some dude laying on top of you. Gay.

* European anal sex. It's so common it's uninteresting. The same European/Russian girls moaning robotically as they take a giant cock up their poopster. These girls don't even know they're being fucked half the time as their minds just 'check out' (Czech out? hehe) and I find the sex boring as fuck.

* Facial abuse. When i get a blowjob I want to feel it, enjoy it - not ram my cock down some poor girl's mouth til she cries, gags, bleeds and God knows what else. Again, consensual rape and it's disgusting.

* Casting couch scenes. Either there's an endless supply of gullible dumb-ass whores out there (okay, probably) or people can be entertained by the same repetive shit forever. Watching the same boring "audition sex" on a fucking black leather couch, over and over again, is amazingly boring.

* Girls waving good-bye after a scene. Okay, we've just used and abused you as a sperm dumpster for twenty minutes, every hole is stretched out and you probably want be able to walk for a couple days, and there's a gallon of cum dripping down your face, and you were just hit, choked, gagged and called a 'fucking worthless whore', so smile and wave to the camera! Hi Dad!


I know - go watch sports instead. LOL
Feel free to add to this list.
What do YOU hate to see in porn?
What are YOU sick of in porn?

Facial abuse.com is so popular you used it as it's own word. Think about that for a second.
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When a dude's bunghole is in a shot or when a dude screams when he ejaculates. Both are fucking terrible.
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I don't like all the spitting either. You don't need to do all that loud "hack-thewie" stuff to get something moist. Ladies, slob and gob it up all you want, but enough with the damn loogie hawking.


My idea of better porn ---

1. Better lighting for one. Doesn't have to be A-1 professional grade but just be mindful of your shadows and hot spots. Put up some side lights out of the way. Make use of natural light. Bounce some off the ceiling. And for god's sake when you're poking the camera into her nether regions turn on the camera light!

2. Enough with the robotic fucking. It gets so each scene is the same as the last, same positions, same stock moanings and mewings, same formula start to finish. Why not try having them actually do it as if they are on their honeymoon (you know, ACT) rather than what they are, that being two paid strangers who show up for work and go through the motions for cash?

3. SOUND --- I've said this before on here, the sound quality in most online porn is SHIT. Why? Because most shooters rely 100% on the camera mic, thus as they move out the sound becomes unhearable, and as the move in for close shots any moan the girl makes sounds like King fucking Kong roaring. Invest in a boom mic for christs sake, or a couple of wireless ones and hide them around the scene. These days these accoutrements are not that expensive. No excuse.

4. Shut up. You, the guy with the camera. Yeah you. Shut your hole. Thanks.

5. If you're strapped for ideas on scripts, plots, situations etc, why not hire a writer? I know of several people on this very board including myself who've written tons of erotica over the years who would be happy to inject some life into your work for an affordable price. Don't be so cheap.

6. Have more than one camera running. If there's just one shooter then afix one or two stationary cameras from different sides. Of course you're going to be in some of that footage but it doesn't matter, you use the shots you need and cut the rest. ---- Oh wait, but that doesn't fit in with your "go cheap" motiff right? One camera, bad sound, poor lighting, bad direction, lackluster plot/situation, robotic "actors", Jerk scene at end rather than decent money shot,
shoot-rinse-repeat, yes? Yeah good luck with that.


I don't think I'm asking for the moon. Just some badly needed quality.



Btw, there are a few people out there producing some really good stuff. They are however in the vast minority. And I do mean vast.
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Kink.com is also great at interviewing before and after in an honest and open way, setting up the clear element of fantasy and getting enthusiastic and intellectual consent of all those involved. Besides, let's not forget that, for every scene of a woman being hurt or degraded, there is a scene with a man being hurt or degraded... Everyone gets a turn. I've spoken with many performers from the site and they seriously love what they do and are incredibly passionate about having a safe, respectful environment to live out their fantasies.


I personally know and like many people who work for Kink, and think overall they do great work (even though I am not personally into BDSM), however I think that Kink does the post-shoot interviews as much to cover their own ass as anything (and who can blame them).

I shot a girl last week that did Hogtied a few years ago for Kink, and she said that she was totally traumatized by her experience, and considers it one of the worst experiences of her life. She acknowledges that she thought she knew what she was getting into, but nothing prepared her for what she was subjected to.

She did the interview pretty much in a state of shock, she said, and it took her quite some time to get over the psychological impact.

Someone else posted this awhile back:

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I usually don?t post this kind of stuff, but I really don?t like to see talent get taken advantage of.

A close friend of mine worked for Kink for her third time recently, and had the most traumatizing experience of her life. (No, she didn?t do the Training of O everyone is always talking about) Her injuries after the shoot include numerous lumps in both breasts (from being slapped, whipped with a bamboo cane), bruises and rope burns from head to toe, bleeding from both her vagina and butt, and soreness everywhere from being constantly shocked when she made it known she didn?t want to do it. On top of that, it was shot in a room with running water flowing through the room that was so cold that during the shoot you can see the talent?s breath. On top of that, she can?t sleep because of the pain and flashbacks from the scene in her dreams. She officially quit the business right after the shoot. I?m sure she?s not the only one they?ve driven to leave. It seems as though once they get you in that building, they torment you as much as they can get away with until the talent won?t work for them, or at all, anymore.

People in this industry know the hush money they pay talent to shut the fuck up. I know quite a few girls that they?ve taken advantage of and felt the need to give them extra money after the fact. I?ve talked to producers, directors, and talent? the only people saying positive stuff about them are the ones making money off them.

I know what people will say, this girl is looking for attention: if she was looking for attention she?d post here herself. And no she?s not a drug addict; she had some medical issues as a child that would kill her if she takes almost any recreational drug.

This is just a warning to any girls looking to work for them and people looking to push traffic to them. I just hope you?re okay with promoting sites like there?s with people like that.
Not arguing with you, just pointing out that in some instances it is as much about money as lifestyle, and that things are not always as they seem cuts both ways.

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The things that worry me the most are the casting failures.

1. Innocent teens with tattoos is just ridiculous, yet even the better teen producers make this mistake.

2. Lesbian scenes where the models turns her nose up at seeing pussy and can't manage to get into it to save herself (how does this stuff make it to release ?)

3. Gay actors who are featured in some new videos not long after they've been doing straight porn

There's such a volume of material released that it's easy to pick on some of it. It would be wrong of producers reading this thread to think we become more sensitive to the obvious fuck ups because we see so much of it, the target audience has a right to quality and some producers just cut corners.
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i'm follicley challenged so i'm a little offended by your first one....
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I love BDSM, and know that they have a limited talent pool, but Christ in the morning, I am sick of seeing the same people over and over and over again.

Vanilla porn bores me to tears.

I don't care what lable is put on it, I hate spitting. That's just gross.

I also hate when the talent stops and looks at the camera.

I am obviously not the market that most porn is shot for, but who the fuck wants to see the guy's expresssion most of the time in what is supposed to be straight porn? Why not show the chick?
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Seeing inside of a girl's colon is not sexy. I'm trying to jerk off, not do a biopsy.
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Facial abuse.com is so popular you used it as it's own word. Think about that for a second.
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People who ask affiliates to promote their sites then take them down for - oh - a year?

Why the FUCK would you - of all people - ask this question?
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3. Gay actors who are featured in some new videos not long after they've been doing straight porn
Besides all the escorting the porn girls now do, I would worry about most of the male talent being gay and fucking in gay films right after doing a threesome with female porn stars. Maybe that's why they all look like bald steroid-fueled gym rats/gay boys from The Fatherland, because they are.

STOP SHOWING ME THE DUDE'S FACE!!!!
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Old 05-03-2012, 08:41 PM   #83
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The excess talking (worse if the cameraman chimes in)
Doggystyle. instead of some dudes asshole pounding her liver. Back up and show the tits and her face more.not digging closeups.
I don't see enough partially clothed fucking.I dig a chick with her panties half way down or her top unbuttoned and a bra partially on .
I also dig a short story or scenario prior to a fuck,builds it up a bit
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It would have to be the jerk off in the face endings.
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I'll just make them my butler lol
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Besides all the escorting the porn girls now do, I would worry about most of the male talent being gay and fucking in gay films right after doing a threesome with female porn stars. Maybe that's why they all look like bald steroid-fueled gym rats/gay boys from The Fatherland, because they are.

STOP SHOWING ME THE DUDE'S FACE!!!!
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Need I say anything?

http://xhamster.com/movies/265560/pa...threesome.html

The editor for some reason cut the intro and the ending that gave the scene a meaning and personality. When you have people like this editing, you know something's wrong.

Sandra was a bit fake and I put that down to years in the business, still it's clear she's having a great time and sharing it.Doing nothing out of the normal otherwise.

http://www.hardsextube.com/video/611503

The real test is in the comments and votes from viewers, not what a few idiots say here.
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i agree, more or less, but its my personal POV and this does not mean i am not selling/advertising such content.
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Also sick of all this... some new creativity would be nice, and would bring new sales too

I'm sure everyone is sick of it.
The creativity required is in the attitude of the online porn industry towards the product. Creating a different scene and including all the things listed here is a no help.


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Copying old stale ideas is part of the problem ....
No ignoring the old ideas was the problem. Suddenly we had webmasters shooting porn with no clue what they were doing. Then everyone swearing blind that the limited porn they were able to produce was exactly what the online surfer wanted. Even though there was massive evidence from a few sites who could produce better were doing far better.

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It's always the same shit over and over and they wonder why sales in the porn industry are so low for the most part. Sure, tubes and other illegal sites may be dipping into your profits, but the biggest problem is the shitty porn that they put out and expect people to spend their $ on. you want people to actually sped $? Start making a product that's worth it. Why would someone want to pay for your crappy porn when they can just go download one for free that's exactly the same as what you just released for the exception of the "actors" (I used this term very loosely) on the movie?
Great post Yngwie

So why is the business this way?

Money. Its that simple and I will beat my drum again.

Start making a product that's worth it. Start paying what it takes to get the shooters who know how to shoot great porn.

Why would someone want to pay for your crappy porn. Sponsors buy this crap or turn it out every day. That's who would buy it.

It's simple. There are 100,000s of guys who can and will point a camera at a naked girl. There's a few 100 who can produce great porn and they go to the highest spenders. The first number might be too low.

I have lost count of the times people have asked me to shoot our level of porn for their level of budget. If a sponsor wants to $300 - $500 solo girl, $800-$1000 lesbian scene $1200-$2000 for an exclusive scene, he's up against better paying markets paying up to 10 times more. The good shooters did not work for that money. Now we have a few sites upping their content game, they only needed to up their content budget to achieve it.

It's no different than any other section of the business. the best go to where the money is best.

I's off to walk the dog, do some jigsaw, watch TV, do some cooking soon. Because we never went the route of shooting for some sites who wanted us to churn out cheap exclusive porn for them.

Most custom shooters have to work next week to pay the bills. Go figure why.

*me banging the same old drum*
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music, music, music, i absolutely hate music on a porn movie, those of you who add it in, STOP! no one likes it.
I think the wrong music is a BIG mistake, but the right music can really work...

Examples;

http://www.foxytube.com/videos/17478/polish-babe.html?utm_source=easygals&utm_medium=network1& utm_campaign=mike

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Hey-OOOOO!!!

Agreed, lots of lame, staged, boring shit compared to the fresh vanilla HD on YT so thankfully some folks need hardcore to get off.

I actually prefer a lil vanilla with a bodacious babe. Get grossed out by all that spitting, cocks, cum and shit.

But that's just me. I'll be at YT drooling over Elisha Cuthbert in 1080p on Letterman or something.







female spitting is ok as long as she's hot

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Ending the scene 10 seconds after the cumshot is also terrible, as has been mentioned. Of course, if the scene DID go on then we, the audience, would see a girl wiping cum off her face, looking slightly humiliated/embarassed, then we would see her count her money, maybe do a line of coke, do a 'whore bath' and just wash her cooze then run off to do another shoot before the drugs wear off.

And that ain't purty so maybe that's why the scenes end 10 seconds after the pop shot....:D
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Ending the scene 10 seconds after the cumshot is also terrible, as has been mentioned. Of course, if the scene DID go on then we, the audience, would see a girl wiping cum off her face, looking slightly humiliated/embarassed, then we would see her count her money, maybe do a line of coke, do a 'whore bath' and just wash her cooze then run off to do another shoot before the drugs wear off.

And that ain't purty so maybe that's why the scenes end 10 seconds after the pop shot....:D
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I'm not sure how to explain it, but girls who roll in their lips when sucking a dick. The lips should make a perfect suction cup around a cock. When the girl looks like she's disgusted to have a dick in her mouth, it's not good.

No:



No:



Yes:



Excuse the shemale.

Also, close ups of male assholes. I don't want to see that shit.


good point...
also I hate to watch movies when male can't keep his erection...
it's just pathetic...
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When a dude's bunghole is in a shot or when a dude screams when he ejaculates. Both are fucking terrible.


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Anything is better than the old days when there was 30 second close up of some sweaty loser's face looking like he was about to pass out, then a greasy nasty "money shot"
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