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Model Gisele 05-26-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18965244)
Gisele why don't you sue her over the $3,600? Or better yet get her charged with theft/fraud - if your fan who sent Abbie the money backs you up and you have emails/IM records of your discussions with Abbie about the money then she's fucked, a criminal record would look good on her.

Doesn't look like Abbie is even going to try to defend herself here against Gisele's accusation.

Actions have been taken on my member and my behalf.. the member actually lives in her city... ;) Gimmie ma Monies!!! hahaha I am using it to take us all to dinner :thumbsup

It isn't my place to say.. but since she did share these details on a business trip w/ other models around.. I will say that the court and jail system is nothing new to Ms. "Abbie" .. and I am not talking about business woahs.. Someone has a temper... Just sayin..

Model Gisele 05-26-2012 07:53 AM

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Originally Posted by SNRProductions (Post 18965606)
Sorry to see Gisele in this spot. She always was a great model for us and always had a great attitude.

Thanks Steve ... As you know, our split wasn't anything personal.. just a poor business decision I made in my earlier years in the biz... Safe to say listening to outside advice and suggestions is no longer apart of my business tactics LoL..

CWH was the foundation that got me where I am today.. I'll never hold any regrets working with ya despite the woahs other webmasters/ webmistresses had with ya, CWH was where it all started ;)

Silly butt, don't feel sorry for me being in this spot, this is finally what Ive been needing for the past 3 1/2 years.. Free to do as I wish without the restraints of jealous, greedy, fraudulent hands all over my brand. I am happier than I have been in a long time.. If anything overwhelmed with what steps to take next! ;)

Niktamer 05-26-2012 09:58 AM

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Originally Posted by violetdoll (Post 18964135)
Crakcash. . .

I'm pretty sure Abbie sold you content of me that she doesnt own the rights to. :( I don't really care that much, just kind of sucks that she got the money and I got nothing.

I'm not really sure what content was bought via Abbie, as we buy for xx,xxx content each month.

I do know we request and get models release and 2257 docs from everything we buy and use.

Please contact me or Nowhere and we can check with you.

In any case, I would be more than happy to buy directly from you, help you with traffic and exposure via our network.

Same for Gisele or any other model that want to licence content to us or just get some free traffic, we will be there to help everyone move forward.

As we make lots of revenue from cam sites, I really respect the work of models, I will always be ready to help models maximize their revenues and exposure in any way that we can.

Hit me up and I'll make sure to figure out something.

Good luck all fixing those issues.

I'm gladly surprise by the down to earth attitude of many people in here. I really hope this will end up in peace and that everyone will be able to get back to focus on their projects.

SNRProductions 05-26-2012 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18966332)
Thanks Steve ... As you know, our split wasn't anything personal.. just a poor business decision I made in my earlier years in the biz... Safe to say listening to outside advice and suggestions is no longer apart of my business tactics LoL..

CWH was the foundation that got me where I am today.. I'll never hold any regrets working with ya despite the woahs other webmasters/ webmistresses had with ya, CWH was where it all started ;)

Silly butt, don't feel sorry for me being in this spot, this is finally what Ive been needing for the past 3 1/2 years.. Free to do as I wish without the restraints of jealous, greedy, fraudulent hands all over my brand. I am happier than I have been in a long time.. If anything overwhelmed with what steps to take next! ;)

Well in that case...congrats? lol.

Things will work out for ya. BTW we are gathering all our old models to kick off our new free cam site, ClassyCams.com. I have a good deal for ya if you're interested. Hit me up about it - steve at snrproductions.com.

TheSenator 05-26-2012 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by SNRProductions (Post 18966599)
Well in that case...congrats? lol.

Things will work out for ya. BTW we are gathering all our old models to kick off our new free cam site, ClassyCams.com. I have a good deal for ya if you're interested. Hit me up about it - steve at snrproductions.com.

I have increase traffic to CWH and ICGirls.

As soon as, ClassyCams.com is out of the oven, I will send more traffic.

I would re-direct all my traffic back to Gisele if she has a landing page and she joins up with you again.

SNRProductions 05-26-2012 05:17 PM

Thanks Senator, much appreciated. I'll see what I can do about getting Gisele on board. We were able to get a lot of our old all-stars back for it already.

1215 05-26-2012 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by RandazzoXXX (Post 18966087)
He's real. Abbie and her partners are all well-known scammers but in this particular instance she's using them as convenient scapegoats to cover up for her own guilty actions. Notice she's refusing to reply to this thread?

her partners were banned from other forums for scamming people. THEN she partnered with them, knowing that they were banned for scamming.

makes sense since she's a huge scammer.

TheSenator 05-27-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by 1215 (Post 18966802)
her partners were banned from other forums for scamming people. THEN she partnered with them, knowing that they were banned for scamming.

makes sense since she's a huge scammer.

Cam With Carmen aka Carmen Bella has always been riddled with problems since day one. Just seems that she can never catch a break.

At this point in the game, she should have been one of the top solo models in the industry like Nikki Sims.

FREE CARMEN!

Model Gisele 05-28-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Niktamer (Post 18966423)
I'm not really sure what content was bought via Abbie, as we buy for xx,xxx content each month.

I do know we request and get models release and 2257 docs from everything we buy and use.

Please contact me or Nowhere and we can check with you.

In any case, I would be more than happy to buy directly from you, help you with traffic and exposure via our network.

Same for Gisele or any other model that want to licence content to us or just get some free traffic, we will be there to help everyone move forward.

As we make lots of revenue from cam sites, I really respect the work of models, I will always be ready to help models maximize their revenues and exposure in any way that we can.

Hit me up and I'll make sure to figure out something.

Good luck all fixing those issues.

I'm gladly surprise by the down to earth attitude of many people in here. I really hope this will end up in peace and that everyone will be able to get back to focus on their projects.

I am currently in the process of shooting new content to be used for promo for my next site.. can you hit me up on my new Skype (xoGisele) for info!
Also abbie never had us sign 2257's ... if that makes a difference in the content you purchased from her.. may want to look into the "rights" she is claiming to have ..

Model Gisele 05-28-2012 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by SNRProductions (Post 18966599)
Well in that case...congrats? lol.

Things will work out for ya. BTW we are gathering all our old models to kick off our new free cam site, ClassyCams.com. I have a good deal for ya if you're interested. Hit me up about it - steve at snrproductions.com.

do u skype or AIM still?
:)

Model Gisele 05-28-2012 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18966627)
I have increase traffic to CWH and ICGirls.

As soon as, ClassyCams.com is out of the oven, I will send more traffic.

I would re-direct all my traffic back to Gisele if she has a landing page and she joins up with you again.

iam working to have a new solo site back by end of summer ;)

Roald 05-28-2012 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18968800)
iam working to have a new solo site back by end of summer ;)

Hit me up once ready please.

Mutt 05-28-2012 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18968800)
iam working to have a new solo site back by end of summer ;)

that's awesome news :thumbsup

MaDalton 05-28-2012 10:44 AM

jeeez... what a clusterfuck. good luck sorting that out

TheSenator 05-28-2012 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18968800)
iam working to have a new solo site back by end of summer ;)

I have a ton of SEO traffic once your site is up.

Make sure to have access to your refer URL stats.

SNRProductions 05-28-2012 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18968796)
do u skype or AIM still?
:)

Yea, aim is snrproductionsco. I either lost yours or ya got a new one. Hit me up :)

Fap 05-28-2012 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18968792)
I am currently in the process of shooting new content to be used for promo for my next site.. can you hit me up on my new Skype (xoGisele) for info!
Also abbie never had us sign 2257's ... if that makes a difference in the content you purchased from her.. may want to look into the "rights" she is claiming to have ..

No one signed 2257's? That's scary

annaliese 05-28-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by SNRProductions (Post 18966800)
Thanks Senator, much appreciated. I'll see what I can do about getting Gisele on board. We were able to get a lot of our old all-stars back for it already.

is abbie related to this new site? i see some SAM girls on the coming soon page.

if not-- might be interested in finding a new home for a godsgirls studio.

SNRProductions 05-28-2012 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by annaliese (Post 18969557)
is abbie related to this new site? i see some SAM girls on the coming soon page.

if not-- might be interested in finding a new home for a godsgirls studio.

She just has a studio with her SAM girls...that's it. My email is steve at snrproductions.com if you want to talk.

TheSenator 05-29-2012 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Fap (Post 18969373)
No one signed 2257's? That's scary

No good at all....

slapass 05-30-2012 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18925201)
Why are they on the wall of shame?

http://www.freeones.com/hallofshame/

Sweetmoney is on there. That is a shame as he took one for stuff that almost every prgram has now.

iheartbucks 05-31-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Model Gisele (Post 18950314)
Thank you ;) There is a little something you can do for me... ;) Number still the same?

No, is your email still the same? I'll email you my new number, if not, my email is so is my AIM, (email me your phone), I'll be happy to help out my boobie twin anytime :winkwink: :winkwink:

TheSenator 06-01-2012 05:34 AM

Good morning!

FREE Carmen!

SNRProductions 06-01-2012 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18966627)
I have increase traffic to CWH and ICGirls.

As soon as, ClassyCams.com is out of the oven, I will send more traffic.

I would re-direct all my traffic back to Gisele if she has a landing page and she joins up with you again.

Looks like you'll be sending us some traffic. Just added her to the list today:thumbsup

TheSenator 06-01-2012 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by snrproductions (Post 18980881)
looks like you'll be sending us some traffic. Just added her to the list today:thumbsup

yes!!!!!

JOKER 06-02-2012 02:25 AM

*bump* this really shouldn't be beyond page one...

Model Gisele 06-04-2012 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by SNRProductions (Post 18980881)
Looks like you'll be sending us some traffic. Just added her to the list today:thumbsup

:thumbsup

UndressJess 06-07-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18927883)
well i really think you do need a partner and not saying that looking to partner with you - i have my own models.

you are underestimating the work and time that goes into a successful solo site. i can't think of one model who has done it successfully on her own.

I do pretty well on my own! ;) BUT I am always looking to find help with the areas I'm not as savvy with... Like my affiliate program! Is there such a thing as hiring someone to run an affiliate program FOR you without selling the site to/joining a network!?

With running my site %100 I've come to the sad conclusion that there isn't enough time in a day to webmaster my site & run it's affiliate program as well. I do pretty well now but I'd love to do EVEN better & I think my site deserves to be more successful with everything I have going on within it! Any ideas on this would be appreciated!

UndressJess 06-07-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18963419)
Look out for Abbie :thumbsup

EDIT: Hope she wasnt the one paying for dinner...

Just curious... Which one is Abbie? I've always wondered what she looks like. Ha this is off topic I know! I apologize in advance for my random curiosity! ;)

DigitalTheory 06-07-2012 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UndressJess (Post 18993016)
Just curious... Which one is Abbie? I've always wondered what she looks like. Ha this is off topic I know! I apologize in advance for my random curiosity! ;)


The big girl to the left of eve, and to answer your previous question, yes, people hire affiliate managers all the time :)

UndressJess 06-07-2012 07:28 PM

No way!!!
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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory (Post 18993040)
The big girl to the left of eve, and to answer your previous question, yes, people hire affiliate managers all the time :)


DigitalTheory 06-07-2012 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by UndressJess (Post 18993041)
No way!!!

Hey, are you gonna be around this weekend, might email you to discuss some business :)

DigitalTheory 06-07-2012 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by UndressJess (Post 18993016)
Just curious... Which one is Abbie? I've always wondered what she looks like. Ha this is off topic I know! I apologize in advance for my random curiosity! ;)

A clearer picture, girl groping Gisele lol.....
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4r3rcsm311r8r9wl.png

TheSenator 06-07-2012 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory (Post 18993049)
A clearer picture, girl groping Gisele lol.....
http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4r3rcsm311r8r9wl.png

Gisele has that look..."like get me outta here" but being nice about it.


I refuse to believe that is "Abbie".... I need more photo proof.

Mutt 06-07-2012 09:10 PM

mocking Abbie based on her weight is childish, her character and business practices are more than fair game though.

Mutt 06-07-2012 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by UndressJess (Post 18992063)
Is there such a thing as hiring someone to run an affiliate program FOR you without selling the site to/joining a network!?

there is BUT the problem is i know of nobody who could run your affiliate program, take the % or $$$ amount you agree to pay them where you would be left with more money than you are making now on your own.

2MuchMark 06-07-2012 10:48 PM

Hi Gisele. Question for you. Skype me at markfrom2much.

His Infernal Majesty 06-08-2012 02:17 AM

Jess, are you looking to just have your affiliate site put together better, or have someone go out and get you affiliates?

If it's the former, I can help set something basic up for you. If it's the latter...

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18993164)
there is BUT the problem is i know of nobody who could run your affiliate program, take the % or $$$ amount you agree to pay them where you would be left with more money than you are making now on your own.

This.

jscott 06-08-2012 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by UndressJess (Post 18992063)
I do pretty well on my own! ;) BUT I am always looking to find help with the areas I'm not as savvy with... Like my affiliate program! Is there such a thing as hiring someone to run an affiliate program FOR you without selling the site to/joining a network!?

With running my site %100 I've come to the sad conclusion that there isn't enough time in a day to webmaster my site & run it's affiliate program as well. I do pretty well now but I'd love to do EVEN better & I think my site deserves to be more successful with everything I have going on within it! Any ideas on this would be appreciated!

Jess I make some sales to your site sometimes, I think if you really marketed it better towards affiliates, push them to push you, I think you'd make quite a bit more $ than you currently do.
You're hot/sexy, seem to have good attitude, and your content is good that I've seen :thumbsup

Kysersoze 06-08-2012 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18993152)
mocking Abbie based on her weight is childish, her character and business practices are more than fair game though.

Normally I would agree that mocking someones weight is childish and uncalled for. I think Abbie is fair game though due to the fact she used photos of a hot girl and had everyone convinced it was her for years.

I personally am not mocking her weight but at this point I don't think it's out of bounds for people to come at her that way if they choose. She doesn't seem to have any boundaries (fake pics, saying she has aids, not paying people) so why should others?

Nurgle 06-08-2012 06:44 AM

she hasnt paid people, we can call her a fat fucking bitch all we like!

TheSenator 06-08-2012 10:38 AM

http://classycams.com/

All the top webcam models in the industry gathering for an epic event.

Who else should be included in this????

Kysersoze 06-08-2012 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18994142)
http://classycams.com/

All the top webcam models in the industry gathering for an epic event.

Who else should be included in this????


Some serious hotties right there, Danni Gee is one of the coolest girls I have dealt with. She has done some promotional videos for me, cool chick!

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DigitalTheory (Post 18993045)
Hey, are you gonna be around this weekend, might email you to discuss some business :)

Yep I'll be around! ;) [email protected] I think all I have to really accomplish is going to my friend birthday party/bon fire tomorrow & clean the house! ;)

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18993152)
mocking Abbie based on her weight is childish, her character and business practices are more than fair game though.

Oh I totally agree. I hope you didn't get the idea that I was... I just swore she had a picture on twitter or some other profile awhile ago that gave me the impression that she looked a lot different than in the pictures above! But I knew she wanted to kinda remain elusive so I never knew what she looked like for sure. :)

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:41 PM

Has anyone heard that there are several members/customers of onhercam that had random $50 charges to their accounts today? A member of mine tweeted about it so I asked him about it & he said that there is one other guy that he knows has an account there that also received the same $50 charge. He is PISSED & no one is answering his (or the other dude's) tweets or emails. This is really scary because it makes cam sites on a whole look suspicious! What the hell is going on here!? /:

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by His Infernal Majesty (Post 18993403)
Jess, are you looking to just have your affiliate site put together better, or have someone go out and get you affiliates?

If it's the former, I can help set something basic up for you. If it's the latter...



This.

Well I have an affiliate site which is linked below in my sig... I just don't have time to put pictures in the little templates that my designer made me & email affiliates. I also don't know anything about sending out emails with the persons affiliate code already linked into the galleries like in the emails I receive for Spunky's affiliate program...

Another issue I've ran into is that my site is mainly video based & I only do pro photo set updates when I have extra time. Affiliates seem to prefer pictures & not videos. Are there any affiliates that take teaser videos? Anyhow... I need an easy way to do this myself quickly (send out emails, make instant galleries so I don't have to muddle with it by hand, and FINDING more affiliates would be super too of course!) or I need to hire someone to take care of this for me.

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mutt (Post 18993164)
there is BUT the problem is i know of nobody who could run your affiliate program, take the % or $$$ amount you agree to pay them where you would be left with more money than you are making now on your own.

But wouldn't I be making MORE money (even after paying them out or giving them a percentage...) if I had more affiliates linking to me & thus getting more traffic? My traffic mostly comes from social networking which works pretty well for me but I'd obviously love to do even better & have better traffic overall... :)

UndressJess 06-08-2012 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jscott (Post 18993509)
Jess I make some sales to your site sometimes, I think if you really marketed it better towards affiliates, push them to push you, I think you'd make quite a bit more $ than you currently do.
You're hot/sexy, seem to have good attitude, and your content is good that I've seen :thumbsup

I see those sales coming in sometimes! Thank you so much for those sales & your compliments as well! :) The thing is I'm not sure how to market better toward affiliates? It seems like it has to be a completely separate job from just running the site let alone making/editing content, doing my updates (all by hand) & doing my 5 member shows a week. That's all quite time consuming on it's own. :( But there HAS TO BE a way I can either find programs that will help me accomplish my affiliate stuff or hire someone to do it for me. Also I do mainly HD videos as content... Do you ever use promo videos to make sales? Just curious! ;)

SNRProductions 06-08-2012 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSenator (Post 18994142)
http://classycams.com/

All the top webcam models in the industry gathering for an epic event.

Who else should be included in this????

That's actually exactly how I'm promoting it in our ads. I was able to get most of our "All-Stars" back for this. If ya have any other ideas on who I'm missing let me know and I'll see what I can do.

I have some pretty exciting affiliate promo tools coming up that I will be announcing in the next week or so as well :thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup


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