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Old 04-30-2012, 02:23 AM   #101
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Mutt, Stephen is under exclusive contract with us. Babes.com will feature content from him and others. He is managing a special team for the B/G shoots, just as you said he does not do it himself. He does 100% guide that team though.

Btw, we are not copying sex-art. We started shooting for this project sometime in the summer of last year.

Looking forward to the launch, we have some awesome content scheduled for release...
so you finally did what Paul Markham told you? Was about time you started listening to him
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yup if you click on the webmasters link http://www.sexart.com/ at the bottom of the page it goes to http://www.metartmoney.com/

So yes Manwin is copying MET ART / Sex Art...ppfffff

They're not copying Met Art. They're trying to copy X-ART just like Met Art and Passion-HD have copied X-ART. I think they're all overestimating the importance that hardcore content and super high end equipment has played in X-ART's success. X-Art has done as well as it has more because of passion and vision. Seeing as those two elements cannot be duplicated, the copycat sites just come across as boring, generic sites that try to appeal to both hardcore and art nude surfers but fail at both. Well, at least that looks to be the case with SexArt and Passion-HD. The jury is still out on Babes. Personally, I think it looks cheesy. It was as if I could almost smell the scent of Drakkar Noir emanating from my laptop as I watched the trailer.

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...but it's manwin.

Onto the next thread.
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Mutt, Stephen is under exclusive contract with us. Babes.com will feature content from him and others. He is managing a special team for the B/G shoots, just as you said he does not do it himself. He does 100% guide that team though.

Btw, we are not copying sex-art. We started shooting for this project sometime in the summer of last year.

Looking forward to the launch, we have some awesome content scheduled for release...
I'm glad for Stephen, great guy, and the best in the world at what he does.
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They're not copying Met Art. They're trying to copy X-ART just like Met Art and Passion-HD have copied X-ART. I think they're all overestimating the importance that hardcore content and super high end equipment has played in X-ART's success. X-Art has done as well as it has more because of passion and vision. Seeing as those two elements cannot be duplicated, the copycat sites just come across as boring, generic sites that try to appeal to both hardcore and art nude surfers but fail at both. Well, at least that looks to be the case with SexArt and Passion-HD. The jury is still out on Babes. Personally, I think it looks cheesy. It was as if I could almost smell the scent of Drakkar Noir emanating from my laptop as I watched the trailer.

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Old 04-30-2012, 02:25 PM   #109
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Seriously, these sites really lack the horny factor.

I would argue there's nothing artistic about sex.

Sex is like eating a juicy steak on an empty stomach, not listening to Mozart.

It's too perfect. Tries to hard to be erotic and there's not sleaze or perversion.

What's more, on the business end, paying "hot" people to fuck is beyond ridiculous, and whoever does needs to have their head checked.

It's a waste of money.
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What's more, on the business end, paying "hot" people to fuck is beyond ridiculous, and whoever does needs to have their head checked.
the entire porn industry is based on paying hot and not so hot people to fuck - billions and billions of dollars have been made doing that.
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They're not copying Met Art. They're trying to copy X-ART just like Met Art and Passion-HD have copied X-ART. I think they're all overestimating the importance that hardcore content and super high end equipment has played in X-ART's success. X-Art has done as well as it has more because of passion and vision. Seeing as those two elements cannot be duplicated, the copycat sites just come across as boring, generic sites that try to appeal to both hardcore and art nude surfers but fail at both. Well, at least that looks to be the case with SexArt and Passion-HD. The jury is still out on Babes. Personally, I think it looks cheesy. It was as if I could almost smell the scent of Drakkar Noir emanating from my laptop as I watched the trailer.
agreed, there will only be one X-Art, it's one guy's vision and talent - doesn't mean that the sites that try to emulate it will suck though. SexArt in my opinion will be a fail, it's the vision of a 69 year old director who created cable erotica in the 80's and 90's, i don't think it will find much of an audience on the web. Passion-HD i'm sure is making lots of money, it's nowhere near the quality of X-Art BUT the scenes are hotter than X-Art - because it's shot by people who know how to shoot hardcore sex.

As much as I admire X-Art's content I've watched a bunch of their scenes and it does nothing for me as jerkoff material. Hardcore should be raw - whether it's passionate or nasty and rough. Pierre Woodman is my porn hero. His casting videos in hotel rooms are real life, real sex. I also like Manuel Ferrara's Raw series - just him and a porn chick in a hotel room or her own home. Nobody else in the room, that's how you get real sex.
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Mutt, Stephen is under exclusive contract with us. Babes.com will feature content from him and others. He is managing a special team for the B/G shoots, just as you said he does not do it himself. He does 100% guide that team though.

Btw, we are not copying sex-art. We started shooting for this project sometime in the summer of last year.

Looking forward to the launch, we have some awesome content scheduled for release...
My suggestion and the date I made it. you probably had this all planned before I sent the email and you launched the competition. So obviously you didn't need any ideas from me. But good to see we are on the same lines.

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As for your offer of a shooter.
Seriously do you think any of the shooters on GFY are really top rate?

If you want top guys you need to poach them from the DVD industry, that's where all the top guys are.
Just takes money.

Would you like me to ask Viv Thomas what he would charge to shoot a hardcore scene for you or would you give me a price and I will offer it to him.
There are others like Steve Perry, Jack Harrison who worked for Bluebird and Private.
These guys are always "Guns for Hire" unless under contract, and all it takes is money.


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Seriously, these sites really lack the horny factor.

I would argue there's nothing artistic about sex.

Sex is like eating a juicy steak on an empty stomach, not listening to Mozart.

It's too perfect. Tries to hard to be erotic and there's not sleaze or perversion.

What's more, on the business end, paying "hot" people to fuck is beyond ridiculous, and whoever does needs to have their head checked.

It's a waste of money.
Dave the Dope has no idea of the rules of "Supply and Demand." Nice try though.
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Dave the Dope has no idea of the rules of "Supply and Demand." Nice try though.
So you're saying the demand for over-produced, over-budgeted, "glam" or "art" porn is bigger
than that of sleazy homemade "girlfriend" videos you can get for free on thousands of sites?
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So you're saying the demand for over-produced, over-budgeted, "glam" or "art" porn is bigger
than that of sleazy homemade "girlfriend" videos you can get for free on thousands of sites?
They exactly know what sells or not. They just have to check their tube revenue stats. Next step is to see what is undeveloped in their assets (like domain names vs content) and focus on that OR acquire some nice domains/programs.
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agreed, there will only be one X-Art, it's one guy's vision and talent - doesn't mean that the sites that try to emulate it will suck though. SexArt in my opinion will be a fail, it's the vision of a 69 year old director who created cable erotica in the 80's and 90's, i don't think it will find much of an audience on the web. Passion-HD i'm sure is making lots of money, it's nowhere near the quality of X-Art BUT the scenes are hotter than X-Art - because it's shot by people who know how to shoot hardcore sex.

As much as I admire X-Art's content I've watched a bunch of their scenes and it does nothing for me as jerkoff material. Hardcore should be raw - whether it's passionate or nasty and rough. Pierre Woodman is my porn hero. His casting videos in hotel rooms are real life, real sex. I also like Manuel Ferrara's Raw series - just him and a porn chick in a hotel room or her own home. Nobody else in the room, that's how you get real sex.
We have similar taste as I really don't like the hardcore stuff on X-Art either. The pics below are better at capturing the essence of the brand.

Also, maybe Babes is why it seems they're repositioning Twistys as a lesbian porn site, something I alluded to here in this post. Never heard back from Ramrod.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18853306&postcount=82

Interesting business model.

- Spend A Lot Of Money To Acquire A Highly Successful Site Which Has Been Branded As 'The Ultimate Babe Site' For 10+ Years.
- Spend A Lot Of Money To Acquire Babes.Com
- Rebrand The Ultimate Babe Site As A Lesbian Porn Site. Piss Away A Lot Of Brand Equity In The Process.
- Spend A Lot Of Money On The Production Of Babes.com In The Hopes Of Capturing A Large Piece Of The X-Art Market Share
- ?????

Seems like they're getting a bit sloppy, no?

Will be interesting to see what happens. It appears as if Babes.com will likely take more business away from Twistys or Digital Playground than it will X-Art or SexArt. We shall see.


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Anyone recognize any of the girls in that

particularly interested in if Riley Steele or Bibi Jones were in it
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than that of sleazy homemade "girlfriend" videos you can get for free on thousands of sites?
OK Dave let me explain supply and demand in simple terms.

If you have 100 customers, that can get the same or similar product from 10 suppliers, that's 10 per supplier.

If you have 20 who can only get it from 1 supplier, that's 20 for the 1.

Now mix into it the free aspect.

If 9 suppliers are vigilant to keep their content off the free sites and 1 doesn't care. Then a huge hole appears and the 100 customers have the option of getting t all for free.

He get's a lot of traffic for a little while and it all looks good.

Until others go the free route nd 1 hole turns into 2 and then 3 and before you know it sales are shit. because the people giving it away for free are running the ship.

Multiply it to the level of most niches and styles in online porn.

If you have a unique product, that's not given away for free you have a far better chance of getting the sale.

And the guys giving it away for free, end up selling traffic for peanuts.

Very simple so you could grasp the law of supply and demand.
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Now Nubiles joined this style/niche: https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1066702

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X-art copied how Met-art shoots the videos, but adding white washed effects to make it seem somewhat original. NOT!

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OK Dave let me explain supply and demand in simple terms.

If you have 100 customers, that can get the same or similar product from 10 suppliers, that's 10 per supplier.

If you have 20 who can only get it from 1 supplier, that's 20 for the 1.

Now mix into it the free aspect.

If 9 suppliers are vigilant to keep their content off the free sites and 1 doesn't care. Then a huge hole appears and the 100 customers have the option of getting t all for free.

He get's a lot of traffic for a little while and it all looks good.

Until others go the free route nd 1 hole turns into 2 and then 3 and before you know it sales are shit. because the people giving it away for free are running the ship.

Multiply it to the level of most niches and styles in online porn.

If you have a unique product, that's not given away for free you have a far better chance of getting the sale.

And the guys giving it away for free, end up selling traffic for peanuts.

Very simple so you could grasp the law of supply and demand.
That was easily the most convoluted explanation of supply and demand that I have ever heard in my life.

We are all dumber for having just read it.
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Fuck that's some really professional editing.

Makes my editing look like I'm using crayons and cardboard paper. lol

Looks like I need to invest in some high end effects plugins to compete with that kind of thing.
I was thinking the same thing. Amazing editing.
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That was easily the most convoluted explanation of supply and demand that I have ever heard in my life.

We are all dumber for having just read it.
Explain it better.

I like RB's post. Let them chase the pirates for a change.
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:06 PM   #139
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Reminds me of a 'babe' program that launched in 2008....
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:16 PM   #140
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Beta begins Monday June 18th

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I'm down for Beta!
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Old 06-11-2012, 09:49 PM   #141
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Old 06-12-2012, 12:32 AM   #142
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OK, i am all in since you have epassporte as payment option

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Old 06-12-2012, 04:20 AM   #143
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OK, i am all in since you have epassporte as payment option

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I told the team yesterday to remove that. That's from text they had putting together past programs. Everything will be combed over this week to get ready for beta on Monday.

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Old 06-12-2012, 04:32 AM   #144
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i sent you an email, i will be happy to give it a try have luck!
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Old 06-12-2012, 07:28 AM   #145
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so i'm right in that some of Hicks' guys and others including yourself are shooting for babes.com?
Mutt,

Now that Babes.com has launched I can comment.

Stephen does not involve himself in the production of the Hardcore material.
I directed and shot the majority of the B/G material on Babes.com.
My team also shoots some of the Girl/Girl but Mark Lit is the master of that

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It makes me ROFL that people are comparing this site to Twistys.

Very, Very different.
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