NATS- WOW! I never saw a shittier system - GoFuckYourself.com

kalel120 · 04-13-2012, 03:48 AM

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

XXXInsights · 04-13-2012, 03:52 AM

I have a tracking platform that does exactly what you want and will work with any program. If interested, contact me here http://www.xxxinsights.com/contact-us/

It's beta for now but works like a charm

vdbucks · 04-13-2012, 03:53 AM

The simple solution here is to write your own.

Don't get me wrong, nats has a ton of things that can be done better - a ton - but when your choices are limited to biller (if you think nats is bad, try ccbills back end), mpa3 (I don't know anything about it so can't comment) and nats, you either use what's available or create your own.

Dirty Dane · 04-13-2012, 03:54 AM

Most are using ccbill.

Welcome to GFY.

anexsia · 04-13-2012, 04:05 AM

Wait until you try CCBill, you'll love it

CamTraffic · 04-13-2012, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

what do you recommend in Mainstream Tracking?

DarkJedi · 04-13-2012, 04:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

What do you think about that?

Make something better, then.

You'd be rich.

Inter-Sex · 04-13-2012, 04:12 AM

I just think you're not experienced enough to work with NATS,
to archieve the results you want.

This is not ment to blame/flame/make fights,
but all what you said is in my litle NATS knowlegde very easy to do.

MichaelP · 04-13-2012, 04:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

Ok, now tell us exactly how you feel...

Welcome to GFY BTW

Yes, we use NATS

EddyTheDog · 04-13-2012, 04:15 AM

This rant has nothing to do with me!!

I will keep my rant to my own thread....

kalel120 · 04-13-2012, 04:15 AM

DarkJedi: HasOffers already beat me to it. I can't see a single feature NATS has that HasOffers doesn't do better. I just don't get it... Maybe I'm missing a magical feature that is only relevant in the adult industry but from what I saw so far, NATS should be burned. In terms of usability and features it's simply bad and outdated. It's like someone still using Windows 3.11. Fuck this shit. I'd rather have a lower conversion rate or payout and work with an offer that works on HasOffers. This is simply ridiculous.

EddyTheDog · 04-13-2012, 04:22 AM

OMG - Its a NATS damage control bot!!!

lol - Somebody broke it though!

Its hilarious....

DarkJedi · 04-13-2012, 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

DarkJedi: HasOffers already beat me to it. I can't see a single feature NATS has that HasOffers doesn't do better. I just don't get it... Maybe I'm missing a magical feature that is only relevant in the adult industry but from what I saw so far, NATS should be burned. In terms of usability and features it's simply bad and outdated. It's like someone still using Windows 3.11. Fuck this shit. I'd rather have a lower conversion rate or payout and work with an offer that works on HasOffers. This is simply ridiculous.

Why don't they integrate into adult biz then, if they are so good.

There is definitely a market for it.

porno jew · 04-13-2012, 04:25 AM

i'm no nats genius but all of that can be easily done.

DWB · 04-13-2012, 04:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

Not choosing a side on this one, but thought you'd get a kick out of knowing the guy who wrote NATS owns the largest adult company in the world now.

DWB · 04-13-2012, 04:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DarkJedi

Why don't they integrate into adult biz then, if they are so good.

There is definitely a market for it.

Would you want to deal with the derelicts in the porn business?

vdbucks · 04-13-2012, 04:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DWB

Not choosing a side on this one, but thought you'd get a kick out of knowing the guy who wrote NATS owns the largest adult company in the world now.

I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?

Nicky · 04-13-2012, 05:06 AM

I think NATS 4.1 is pretty good.

CyberHustler · 04-13-2012, 05:06 AM

Is this a hasoffer spam?

bns666 · 04-13-2012, 05:29 AM

compared to ccbill, can't complain about anything related to nats.

Jman · 04-13-2012, 05:32 AM

Adapt or.... GO BACK!!!!

lucas131 · 04-13-2012, 05:35 AM

stop crying asshole, nobody ever invited you here. stupid dramaqueen crybaby bitch, go back to your maisntream shit! and say hello to all other idiots out there! and have a nice weekend everyone!

DWB · 04-13-2012, 05:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?

... Manwin

Supz · 04-13-2012, 05:54 AM

this troll is strong with this one..

yoda picture here.

Phoenix · 04-13-2012, 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CyberHustler

Is this a hasoffer spam?

bing bing..winner winner chicken dinner

BAKO · 04-13-2012, 05:56 AM

Use a flea

journalism · 04-13-2012, 06:04 AM

Your talking shit to NATS but how is hasoffers???

Take a look

http://www.hasoffers.com/pricing/

I never think that a tracking software has a limitation of hits! We called tracking software not a metered tracking software!

Wilsy · 04-13-2012, 06:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vdbucks

I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?

Fabian (manwin)

Jakez · 04-13-2012, 06:13 AM

Only thing I don't like about NATS is you can't create campaign links on the fly inside links. You have to make each one inside your affiliate panel.

SexKey Scott · 04-13-2012, 06:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

Obviously you don't know the NATS system very well...

2MuchMark · 04-13-2012, 06:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Alright,
As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
Generating links - SHIT
Grabbing creatives - SHIT
Stats reports- SHIT
wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

What do you think about that?

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

I don't use NATS, but TooMuch has been around for a long time and have good reviews. Maybe you are just facing a steeper learning curve than you expected?

SlammedMedia · 04-13-2012, 06:36 AM

You said it. It blows me away too, that NATS is the industry leader in affiliate tracking software.

Not to mention CCBill, you'd think with the $100's of millions they've made, they'd give webmasters something worthwhile and something that didn't look so 1997.

iSpyCams · 04-13-2012, 07:03 AM

So from what I am seeing hasoffers costs roughly twice what Nats costs to get started, and it's not clear whether it integrates with billers.

BareBacked · 04-13-2012, 07:52 AM

Lol
.....

Theo · 04-13-2012, 09:21 AM

You should pick up a manual

kalel120 · 04-13-2012, 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lucas131

stop crying asshole, nobody ever invited you here. stupid dramaqueen crybaby bitch, go back to your maisntream shit! and say hello to all other idiots out there! and have a nice weekend everyone!

GFY. Mainstream is shit filled with idiots yet we have a forum here called "Mainstream Biz discussion" here? Guess it should be changed to Shitty Biz With other idiots discussions. Oh why do I even bother.

WOW. The ferociousness of people defending NATS. Any stock holders here?
Find it amazing that people who didn't try something else are defending it like it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's like saying Hamburgers are the best thing in the world? "Did you ever try steaks?" "No, but I simply know Hamburgers are the best thing in the world".
NATS - No easy way to add variables and subids to links, no reports for day parting (yea I'm sure conversions for CAMs are at the same level all day, and not mostly at launch breaks of fat american executives and like to wank off and tell a pretty .ru girl what to do. Would be great to see that no?). So much data you can gather with awesome tracking that it's a sin to not do it.

Good we had an open discussion about the pros and cons of nats here.

Peace to the hustlers and grinders, and a big gfy to all the sheep and haters.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

Fat Panda · 04-13-2012, 09:57 AM

nats is average and ccbill is stuck in the 1990s...

kalel120 · 04-13-2012, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by **********

I don't use NATS, but TooMuch has been around for a long time and have good reviews. Maybe you are just facing a steeper learning curve than you expected?

No, I got everything I wanted. Just in terms of usability and user friendly it's just wrong.
I use my property tracking system, but I do need some data from the advertiser to track the conversions through the entire flow. And that is where NATS pale to other aff tracking systems.

signupdamnit · 04-13-2012, 10:02 AM

Nats 4.1 is actually fairly nice IMO. It has many tools for the affiliate which most aren't even aware of.

TMM_John · 04-13-2012, 10:04 AM

This guy seems completely serious, lol.

journalism · 04-13-2012, 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

No, I got everything I wanted. Just in terms of usability and user friendly it's just wrong.
I use my property tracking system, but I do need some data from the advertiser to track the conversions through the entire flow. And that is where NATS pale to other aff tracking systems.

So you are trying to defend the company you like for putting a limitation of how many hits you sent for a month? And if you are contented with 300k/month upgrade to a new plans? THAT IS FUCKING INSANE!!! Maybe you just leave this forum instead! That company you try to defend is just waste of our money. NATS is expensive we already knew that BUT it's worth it!

CamTraffic · 04-13-2012, 10:19 AM

Anonymous badass! GtfO!!

biskoppen · 04-13-2012, 10:22 AM

I have nothing to compare with as my mainstream experience is very limited, but I do find that NATS is very nice to work with as an affiliate.

signupdamnit · 04-13-2012, 10:25 AM

There was a sponsor I use recently considering switching to Mpa3 from Nats to save money. At the tier they are probably paying in for Nats I figured up it would be about a $50 a month difference. Considering how much more Nats gets me as far as stats and options you know I'd almost pay that $50 a month myself as an affiliate for them to keep it. Not to knock mpa3 or anything but Nats 4.1 is pretty damn good and has a lot of nice options going for it which mpa3 and most other such programs just don't have. I don't see how you can call Nats 4.1 crappy. Maybe some of the previous versions, sure.

kalel120 · 04-13-2012, 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by journalism

So you are trying to defend the company you like for putting a limitation of how many hits you sent for a month? And if you are contented with 300k/month upgrade to a new plans? THAT IS FUCKING INSANE!!! Maybe you just leave this forum instead! That company you try to defend is just waste of our money. NATS is expensive we already knew that BUT it's worth it!

Ehhh.... hello! nothing personal here. No one is trying to hunt you down or rob you of your hard cummed money. Chill out, drink a coke, and stfu. you see me defending? I don't work for them nor have I used any affiliate links here. Instead of all this hustle and bustle, all the haters go try it out (I think they have a free trial or something) and then come back instead of bullshitting without even looking. Heck, maybe there is something new to learn. How can people be so closed minded. It's like I offended their own personal god. Instead of trying to be open minded and learn from each industries you're closed on your own habits, very close to religious zealousness

Alright. NATS OWNS, it's the best system that was ever created and ever will exist. NATS is the ultimate piece of software ever coded, it's lightyears ahead of it's time, perhaps even employing alien technology. All HAIL NATS. ALL HAIL NATS.
Now gfy you ignorant sheep. I'd rather go shoot myself than follow the mob.

AMEN.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

Brujah · 04-13-2012, 10:36 AM

If I had any part in NATS development, I'd ignore the guys hostility but pay close attention to the useful features that HasOffers provides. A great way to fill out the development roadmap for future versions of NATS.

Jel · 04-13-2012, 10:38 AM

lol, what a fucking cock. Spit your dummy out much there in your last post?

2MuchMark · 04-13-2012, 11:23 AM

Hi kalel120,

Just curious - have you tried contacting your rep at TMM? Maybe your sales rep at TMM can help you out. I don't know if they charge for their time or not (I don't think so) but everyone there is pretty nice and I'm sure they would not want to lose anyone as a client who maybe didn't know how to use their system properly.

Good luck!

DamageX · 04-13-2012, 12:03 PM

Foot, meet mouth.

porno jew · 04-13-2012, 12:08 PM

back to digital point you third world retard.

Quote:

Originally Posted by kalel120

Ehhh.... hello! nothing personal here. No one is trying to hunt you down or rob you of your hard cummed money. Chill out, drink a coke, and stfu. you see me defending? I don't work for them nor have I used any affiliate links here. Instead of all this hustle and bustle, all the haters go try it out (I think they have a free trial or something) and then come back instead of bullshitting without even looking. Heck, maybe there is something new to learn. How can people be so closed minded. It's like I offended their own personal god. Instead of trying to be open minded and learn from each industries you're closed on your own habits, very close to religious zealousness

Alright. NATS OWNS, it's the best system that was ever created and ever will exist. NATS is the ultimate piece of software ever coded, it's lightyears ahead of it's time, perhaps even employing alien technology. All HAIL NATS. ALL HAIL NATS.
Now gfy you ignorant sheep. I'd rather go shoot myself than follow the mob.

AMEN.

$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Kal

04-13-2012, 03:48 AM	#1
kalel120 Registered User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 18	NATS- WOW! I never saw a shittier system Alright, As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS. WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats. Generating links - SHIT Grabbing creatives - SHIT Stats reports- SHIT wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012. What do you think about that? $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ Kal

04-13-2012, 03:53 AM	#3
vdbucks Monger Cash Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 2,773	The simple solution here is to write your own. Don't get me wrong, nats has a ton of things that can be done better - a ton - but when your choices are limited to biller (if you think nats is bad, try ccbills back end), mpa3 (I don't know anything about it so can't comment) and nats, you either use what's available or create your own. Last edited by vdbucks; 04-13-2012 at 03:58 AM..

04-13-2012, 05:06 AM	#18
Nicky Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Sweden Posts: 30,070	I think NATS 4.1 is pretty good. __________________ gfynicky @ gmail.com

04-13-2012, 05:29 AM	#20
bns666 Confirmed Fetishist Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Fetishland Posts: 11,539	compared to ccbill, can't complain about anything related to nats. __________________ ⭐ CAM SODA ⭐ STRIPCHAT ⭐ ⭐ CHATURBATE ⭐ X LOVE CAM ⭐

04-13-2012, 05:32 AM	#21
Jman Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Canuckstikan Posts: 22,785	Adapt or.... GO BACK!!!! __________________ email: [email protected] Best AI Affiliate Program Niche Dating Program PPS! FantasyXXX.AI Teams: jean.francois.laverdiere TG: @jman1216

04-13-2012, 03:52 AM	#2
XXXInsights Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Netherlands Posts: 112	I have a tracking platform that does exactly what you want and will work with any program. If interested, contact me here http://www.xxxinsights.com/contact-us/ It's beta for now but works like a charm

04-13-2012, 03:54 AM	#4
Dirty Dane Sick Fuck Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: www Posts: 9,491	Most are using ccbill. Welcome to GFY.

04-13-2012, 04:05 AM	#5
anexsia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 5,735	Wait until you try CCBill, you'll love it

04-13-2012, 04:12 AM	#8
Inter-Sex Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Spain :) Posts: 2,231	I just think you're not experienced enough to work with NATS, to archieve the results you want. This is not ment to blame/flame/make fights, but all what you said is in my litle NATS knowlegde very easy to do.

04-13-2012, 04:15 AM	#10
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,231	This rant has nothing to do with me!! I will keep my rant to my own thread....

04-13-2012, 04:22 AM	#12
EddyTheDog Just Doing My Own Thing Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: London, Spain, New Zealand, GFY - Not Croydon... Posts: 25,231	OMG - Its a NATS damage control bot!!! lol - Somebody broke it though! Its hilarious....

04-13-2012, 04:25 AM	#14
porno jew Too lazy to set a custom title Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2006 Posts: 10,166	i'm no nats genius but all of that can be easily done.

04-13-2012, 05:06 AM	#19
CyberHustler Masterbaiter Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2006 Posts: 26,488	Is this a hasoffer spam?

04-13-2012, 05:35 AM	#22
lucas131 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,475	stop crying asshole, nobody ever invited you here. stupid dramaqueen crybaby bitch, go back to your maisntream shit! and say hello to all other idiots out there! and have a nice weekend everyone!

04-13-2012, 05:54 AM	#24
Supz Arthur Flegenheimer Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York City Posts: 11,056	this troll is strong with this one.. yoda picture here.

04-13-2012, 05:56 AM	#26
BAKO Etology.com Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Hollywood CA Posts: 18,407	Use a flea __________________ Telegram: @bakokaye

04-13-2012, 06:04 AM	#27
journalism Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: I travel a lot, but I am originally from Bali, Indonesia Posts: 395	Your talking shit to NATS but how is hasoffers??? Take a look http://www.hasoffers.com/pricing/ I never think that a tracking software has a limitation of hits! We called tracking software not a metered tracking software!

04-13-2012, 06:13 AM	#29
Jakez Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oddfuturewolfgangkillthemall!!!!!!! Posts: 5,656	Only thing I don't like about NATS is you can't create campaign links on the fly inside links. You have to make each one inside your affiliate panel. __________________ [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400 Killuminati Last edited by Jakez; 04-13-2012 at 06:15 AM..

04-13-2012, 06:36 AM	#32
SlammedMedia Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2008 Posts: 1,573	You said it. It blows me away too, that NATS is the industry leader in affiliate tracking software. Not to mention CCBill, you'd think with the $100's of millions they've made, they'd give webmasters something worthwhile and something that didn't look so 1997. __________________ ICQ: 350-260-628

04-13-2012, 07:03 AM	#33
iSpyCams Amateur Gynecologist Industry Role: Join Date: May 2009 Location: Medellin Posts: 4,436	So from what I am seeing hasoffers costs roughly twice what Nats costs to get started, and it's not clear whether it integrates with billers.

04-13-2012, 07:52 AM	#34
BareBacked Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: www.BareBacked.com Posts: 3,685	Lol ..... __________________ NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL Selfies

04-13-2012, 09:21 AM	#35
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	You should pick up a manual

04-13-2012, 09:57 AM	#37
Fat Panda Porn is Dead. Move along. Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 13,295	nats is average and ccbill is stuck in the 1990s...

04-13-2012, 10:02 AM	#39
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	Nats 4.1 is actually fairly nice IMO. It has many tools for the affiliate which most aren't even aware of. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

04-13-2012, 10:04 AM	#40
TMM_John Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 6,664	This guy seems completely serious, lol. __________________ Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

04-13-2012, 10:19 AM	#42
CamTraffic Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Paris - Miami Posts: 6,537	Anonymous badass! GtfO!! __________________ I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up. Email me HERE!

04-13-2012, 10:22 AM	#43
biskoppen Confirmed User Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Very small penis Posts: 5,809	I have nothing to compare with as my mainstream experience is very limited, but I do find that NATS is very nice to work with as an affiliate. __________________ Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

04-13-2012, 10:25 AM	#44
signupdamnit Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2007 Posts: 6,697	There was a sponsor I use recently considering switching to Mpa3 from Nats to save money. At the tier they are probably paying in for Nats I figured up it would be about a $50 a month difference. Considering how much more Nats gets me as far as stats and options you know I'd almost pay that $50 a month myself as an affiliate for them to keep it. Not to knock mpa3 or anything but Nats 4.1 is pretty damn good and has a lot of nice options going for it which mpa3 and most other such programs just don't have. I don't see how you can call Nats 4.1 crappy. Maybe some of the previous versions, sure. __________________ You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want. Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-13-2012 at 10:26 AM..

04-13-2012, 10:36 AM	#46
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	If I had any part in NATS development, I'd ignore the guys hostility but pay close attention to the useful features that HasOffers provides. A great way to fill out the development roadmap for future versions of NATS. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

04-13-2012, 10:38 AM	#47
Jel Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 6,904	lol, what a fucking cock. Spit your dummy out much there in your last post?

04-13-2012, 11:23 AM	#48
2MuchMark Videochat Solutions Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Canada Posts: 49,479	Hi kalel120, Just curious - have you tried contacting your rep at TMM? Maybe your sales rep at TMM can help you out. I don't know if they charge for their time or not (I don't think so) but everyone there is pretty nice and I'm sure they would not want to lose anyone as a client who maybe didn't know how to use their system properly. Good luck! __________________ Custom Coding \| Videochat Solutions \| Age Verification \| IT Help & Support www.2Much.net

04-13-2012, 12:03 PM	#49
DamageX Marketing & Strategy Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Former nomad Posts: 14,293	Foot, meet mouth. __________________ Whitehat is for chumps If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!