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  • kalel120
    Registered User
    • Apr 2012
    • 18

    #1

    NATS- WOW! I never saw a shittier system

    Alright,
    As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
    WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
    Generating links - SHIT
    Grabbing creatives - SHIT
    Stats reports- SHIT
    wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

    What do you think about that?

    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
    Kal
  • XXXInsights
    Confirmed User
    • Jun 2001
    • 112

    #2
    I have a tracking platform that does exactly what you want and will work with any program. If interested, contact me here http://www.xxxinsights.com/contact-us/

    It's beta for now but works like a charm

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    • vdbucks
      Monger Cash
      • Jul 2010
      • 2773

      #3
      The simple solution here is to write your own.


      Don't get me wrong, nats has a ton of things that can be done better - a ton - but when your choices are limited to biller (if you think nats is bad, try ccbills back end), mpa3 (I don't know anything about it so can't comment) and nats, you either use what's available or create your own.
      Last edited by vdbucks; 04-13-2012, 02:58 AM.

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      • Dirty Dane
        Sick Fuck
        • Feb 2004
        • 9491

        #4
        Most are using ccbill.

        Welcome to GFY.

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        • anexsia
          Confirmed User
          • May 2010
          • 5735

          #5
          Wait until you try CCBill, you'll love it

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          • CamTraffic
            Confirmed User
            • Feb 2008
            • 6538

            #6
            Originally posted by kalel120
            Alright,
            As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
            WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
            Generating links - SHIT
            Grabbing creatives - SHIT
            Stats reports- SHIT
            wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

            What do you think about that?

            $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
            Kal
            what do you recommend in Mainstream Tracking?
            I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
            Email me HERE!

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            • DarkJedi
              No Refunds Issued.
              • Feb 2001
              • 28301

              #7
              Originally posted by kalel120
              What do you think about that?
              Make something better, then.

              You'd be rich.

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              • Inter-Sex
                Confirmed User
                • Nov 2005
                • 2231

                #8
                I just think you're not experienced enough to work with NATS,
                to archieve the results you want.

                This is not ment to blame/flame/make fights,
                but all what you said is in my litle NATS knowlegde very easy to do.

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                • MichaelP
                  Registered User
                  • Aug 2003
                  • 7124

                  #9
                  Originally posted by kalel120
                  Alright,
                  As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
                  WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
                  Generating links - SHIT
                  Grabbing creatives - SHIT
                  Stats reports- SHIT
                  wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

                  What do you think about that?

                  $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                  Kal

                  Ok, now tell us exactly how you feel...

                  Welcome to GFY BTW

                  Yes, we use NATS

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                  • EddyTheDog
                    Just Doing My Own Thing
                    • Jan 2011
                    • 25433

                    #10
                    This rant has nothing to do with me!!

                    I will keep my rant to my own thread....

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                    • kalel120
                      Registered User
                      • Apr 2012
                      • 18

                      #11
                      DarkJedi: HasOffers already beat me to it. I can't see a single feature NATS has that HasOffers doesn't do better. I just don't get it... Maybe I'm missing a magical feature that is only relevant in the adult industry but from what I saw so far, NATS should be burned. In terms of usability and features it's simply bad and outdated. It's like someone still using Windows 3.11. Fuck this shit. I'd rather have a lower conversion rate or payout and work with an offer that works on HasOffers. This is simply ridiculous.

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                      • EddyTheDog
                        Just Doing My Own Thing
                        • Jan 2011
                        • 25433

                        #12
                        OMG - Its a NATS damage control bot!!!

                        lol - Somebody broke it though!

                        Its hilarious....

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                        • DarkJedi
                          No Refunds Issued.
                          • Feb 2001
                          • 28301

                          #13
                          Originally posted by kalel120
                          DarkJedi: HasOffers already beat me to it. I can't see a single feature NATS has that HasOffers doesn't do better. I just don't get it... Maybe I'm missing a magical feature that is only relevant in the adult industry but from what I saw so far, NATS should be burned. In terms of usability and features it's simply bad and outdated. It's like someone still using Windows 3.11. Fuck this shit. I'd rather have a lower conversion rate or payout and work with an offer that works on HasOffers. This is simply ridiculous.
                          Why don't they integrate into adult biz then, if they are so good.

                          There is definitely a market for it.

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                          • porno jew
                            Too lazy to set a custom title
                            • Nov 2006
                            • 10166

                            #14
                            i'm no nats genius but all of that can be easily done.

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                            • DWB
                              Registered User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 31779

                              #15
                              Originally posted by kalel120
                              Alright,
                              As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
                              WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
                              Generating links - SHIT
                              Grabbing creatives - SHIT
                              Stats reports- SHIT
                              wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

                              What do you think about that?

                              $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                              Kal
                              Not choosing a side on this one, but thought you'd get a kick out of knowing the guy who wrote NATS owns the largest adult company in the world now.

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                              • DWB
                                Registered User
                                • Jul 2003
                                • 31779

                                #16
                                Originally posted by DarkJedi
                                Why don't they integrate into adult biz then, if they are so good.

                                There is definitely a market for it.
                                Would you want to deal with the derelicts in the porn business?

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                                • vdbucks
                                  Monger Cash
                                  • Jul 2010
                                  • 2773

                                  #17
                                  Originally posted by DWB
                                  Not choosing a side on this one, but thought you'd get a kick out of knowing the guy who wrote NATS owns the largest adult company in the world now.
                                  I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?

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                                  • Nicky
                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                    • Mar 2003
                                    • 30071

                                    #18
                                    I think NATS 4.1 is pretty good.

                                    gfynicky @ gmail.com

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                                    • CyberHustler
                                      Masterbaiter
                                      • Feb 2006
                                      • 28741

                                      #19
                                      Is this a hasoffer spam?
                                      “If you can convince the lowest white man he’s better than the best colored man, he won’t notice you’re picking his pocket. Hell, give him somebody to look down on, and he’ll empty his pockets for you.”

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                                      • bns666
                                        Confirmed Fetishist
                                        • Mar 2005
                                        • 11555

                                        #20
                                        compared to ccbill, can't complain about anything related to nats.
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                                        • Jman
                                          Already an AI veteran
                                          • Sep 2003
                                          • 22838

                                          #21
                                          Adapt or.... GO BACK!!!!
                                          Orkestrait NSFW AI
                                          FantasyXXX.AI
                                          Email: [email protected] TG: @jman1216

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                                          • lucas131
                                            ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
                                            • Aug 2004
                                            • 11475

                                            #22
                                            stop crying asshole, nobody ever invited you here. stupid dramaqueen crybaby bitch, go back to your maisntream shit! and say hello to all other idiots out there! and have a nice weekend everyone!

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                                            • DWB
                                              Registered User
                                              • Jul 2003
                                              • 31779

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by vdbucks
                                              I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?
                                              ... Manwin

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                                              • Supz
                                                Arthur Flegenheimer
                                                • Jul 2006
                                                • 11057

                                                #24
                                                this troll is strong with this one..


                                                yoda picture here.

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                                                • Phoenix
                                                  BACON BACON BACON
                                                  • Nov 2002
                                                  • 35475

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by CyberHustler
                                                  Is this a hasoffer spam?
                                                  bing bing..winner winner chicken dinner
                                                  Telegram PhoenixBrad
                                                  https://quantads.io

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                                                  • BAKO
                                                    https://traffichaus.com/
                                                    • Jul 2005
                                                    • 18478

                                                    #26
                                                    Use a flea
                                                    Global Traffic Acquisition & Monetization
                                                    Telegram: @bakokaye

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                                                    • journalism
                                                      Confirmed User
                                                      • Mar 2011
                                                      • 395

                                                      #27
                                                      Your talking shit to NATS but how is hasoffers???


                                                      Take a look

                                                      http://www.hasoffers.com/pricing/


                                                      I never think that a tracking software has a limitation of hits! We called tracking software not a metered tracking software!

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                                                      • Wilsy
                                                        Confirmed User
                                                        • Oct 2009
                                                        • 1865

                                                        #28
                                                        Originally posted by vdbucks
                                                        I actually didn't know that (unless you're talking about nats lol). If you're not talking about nats, what company does he own?

                                                        Fabian (manwin)
                                                        Affiliate Manager

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                                                        • Jakez
                                                          Confirmed User
                                                          • Jan 2004
                                                          • 5656

                                                          #29
                                                          Only thing I don't like about NATS is you can't create campaign links on the fly inside links. You have to make each one inside your affiliate panel.
                                                          Last edited by Jakez; 04-13-2012, 05:15 AM.
                                                          [email protected] - jakezdumb - 573689400

                                                          Killuminati

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                                                          • SexKey Scott
                                                            Confirmed User
                                                            • Jul 2010
                                                            • 343

                                                            #30
                                                            Originally posted by kalel120
                                                            Alright,
                                                            As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
                                                            WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
                                                            Generating links - SHIT
                                                            Grabbing creatives - SHIT
                                                            Stats reports- SHIT
                                                            wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

                                                            What do you think about that?

                                                            $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                                                            Kal

                                                            Obviously you don't know the NATS system very well...
                                                            skype: wcdscott

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                                                            • 2MuchMark
                                                              Mark of 2Much.net
                                                              • Aug 2004
                                                              • 50984

                                                              #31
                                                              Originally posted by kalel120
                                                              Alright,
                                                              As you know I come from the mainstream affiliate world. The world where we have proper tracking. Where we can add sub ids easily and generate easy reports. We have HasOffers and other system. Now I got into the adult industry and it seems everyone are using NATS.
                                                              WTF ?!?!? It's the worst thing ever created for someone who is running paid traffic and wants to do some serious split testing and have proper stats.
                                                              Generating links - SHIT
                                                              Grabbing creatives - SHIT
                                                              Stats reports- SHIT
                                                              wow. I'm simply shocked people actually use a system like that in 2012.

                                                              What do you think about that?

                                                              $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                                                              Kal

                                                              I don't use NATS, but TooMuch has been around for a long time and have good reviews. Maybe you are just facing a steeper learning curve than you expected?

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                                                              • SlammedMedia
                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                • Apr 2008
                                                                • 1573

                                                                #32
                                                                You said it. It blows me away too, that NATS is the industry leader in affiliate tracking software.

                                                                Not to mention CCBill, you'd think with the $100's of millions they've made, they'd give webmasters something worthwhile and something that didn't look so 1997.
                                                                ICQ: 350-260-628

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                                                                • iSpyCams
                                                                  Amateur Gynecologist
                                                                  • May 2009
                                                                  • 4436

                                                                  #33
                                                                  So from what I am seeing hasoffers costs roughly twice what Nats costs to get started, and it's not clear whether it integrates with billers.
                                                                  - As soon as I think up a good sig it's going here.

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                                                                  • BareBacked
                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                    • Feb 2007
                                                                    • 3685

                                                                    #34
                                                                    Lol
                                                                    .....
                                                                    NEW SITE PAYING $30 for a $1 TRIAL

                                                                    Selfies

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                                                                    • Theo
                                                                      HAL 9000
                                                                      • May 2001
                                                                      • 34515

                                                                      #35
                                                                      You should pick up a manual

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                                                                      • kalel120
                                                                        Registered User
                                                                        • Apr 2012
                                                                        • 18

                                                                        #36
                                                                        Originally posted by lucas131
                                                                        stop crying asshole, nobody ever invited you here. stupid dramaqueen crybaby bitch, go back to your maisntream shit! and say hello to all other idiots out there! and have a nice weekend everyone!
                                                                        GFY. Mainstream is shit filled with idiots yet we have a forum here called "Mainstream Biz discussion" here? Guess it should be changed to Shitty Biz With other idiots discussions. Oh why do I even bother.

                                                                        WOW. The ferociousness of people defending NATS. Any stock holders here?
                                                                        Find it amazing that people who didn't try something else are defending it like it's the best thing since sliced bread. It's like saying Hamburgers are the best thing in the world? "Did you ever try steaks?" "No, but I simply know Hamburgers are the best thing in the world".
                                                                        NATS - No easy way to add variables and subids to links, no reports for day parting (yea I'm sure conversions for CAMs are at the same level all day, and not mostly at launch breaks of fat american executives and like to wank off and tell a pretty .ru girl what to do. Would be great to see that no?). So much data you can gather with awesome tracking that it's a sin to not do it.

                                                                        Good we had an open discussion about the pros and cons of nats here.

                                                                        Peace to the hustlers and grinders, and a big gfy to all the sheep and haters.


                                                                        $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                                                                        Kal

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                                                                        • Fat Panda
                                                                          Porn is Dead. Move along.
                                                                          • Aug 2006
                                                                          • 13296

                                                                          #37
                                                                          nats is average and ccbill is stuck in the 1990s...

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                                                                          • kalel120
                                                                            Registered User
                                                                            • Apr 2012
                                                                            • 18

                                                                            #38
                                                                            Originally posted by MarkPrince
                                                                            I don't use NATS, but TooMuch has been around for a long time and have good reviews. Maybe you are just facing a steeper learning curve than you expected?
                                                                            No, I got everything I wanted. Just in terms of usability and user friendly it's just wrong.
                                                                            I use my property tracking system, but I do need some data from the advertiser to track the conversions through the entire flow. And that is where NATS pale to other aff tracking systems.

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                                                                            • signupdamnit
                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                              • Aug 2007
                                                                              • 6697

                                                                              #39
                                                                              Nats 4.1 is actually fairly nice IMO. It has many tools for the affiliate which most aren't even aware of.

                                                                              You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                              • TMM_John
                                                                                Confirmed User
                                                                                • May 2004
                                                                                • 6664

                                                                                #40
                                                                                This guy seems completely serious, lol.


                                                                                Too Much Media - Makers of the Industry's Leading Payite Management Platform, NATS!

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                                                                                • journalism
                                                                                  Confirmed User
                                                                                  • Mar 2011
                                                                                  • 395

                                                                                  #41
                                                                                  Originally posted by kalel120
                                                                                  No, I got everything I wanted. Just in terms of usability and user friendly it's just wrong.
                                                                                  I use my property tracking system, but I do need some data from the advertiser to track the conversions through the entire flow. And that is where NATS pale to other aff tracking systems.
                                                                                  So you are trying to defend the company you like for putting a limitation of how many hits you sent for a month? And if you are contented with 300k/month upgrade to a new plans? THAT IS FUCKING INSANE!!! Maybe you just leave this forum instead! That company you try to defend is just waste of our money. NATS is expensive we already knew that BUT it's worth it!

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                                                                                  • CamTraffic
                                                                                    Confirmed User
                                                                                    • Feb 2008
                                                                                    • 6538

                                                                                    #42
                                                                                    Anonymous badass! GtfO!!
                                                                                    I am always buying traffic and white labels. Hit me up.
                                                                                    Email me HERE!

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                                                                                    • biskoppen
                                                                                      Confirmed User
                                                                                      • Mar 2003
                                                                                      • 5809

                                                                                      #43
                                                                                      I have nothing to compare with as my mainstream experience is very limited, but I do find that NATS is very nice to work with as an affiliate.
                                                                                      Submit my videos to make bank, tons of 5 minute videos offered right here

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                                                                                      • signupdamnit
                                                                                        Confirmed User
                                                                                        • Aug 2007
                                                                                        • 6697

                                                                                        #44
                                                                                        There was a sponsor I use recently considering switching to Mpa3 from Nats to save money. At the tier they are probably paying in for Nats I figured up it would be about a $50 a month difference. Considering how much more Nats gets me as far as stats and options you know I'd almost pay that $50 a month myself as an affiliate for them to keep it. Not to knock mpa3 or anything but Nats 4.1 is pretty damn good and has a lot of nice options going for it which mpa3 and most other such programs just don't have. I don't see how you can call Nats 4.1 crappy. Maybe some of the previous versions, sure.
                                                                                        Last edited by signupdamnit; 04-13-2012, 09:26 AM.

                                                                                        You don't like my posts? Put me on ignore or fuck right off. I'll say what I want.

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                                                                                        • kalel120
                                                                                          Registered User
                                                                                          • Apr 2012
                                                                                          • 18

                                                                                          #45
                                                                                          Originally posted by journalism
                                                                                          So you are trying to defend the company you like for putting a limitation of how many hits you sent for a month? And if you are contented with 300k/month upgrade to a new plans? THAT IS FUCKING INSANE!!! Maybe you just leave this forum instead! That company you try to defend is just waste of our money. NATS is expensive we already knew that BUT it's worth it!

                                                                                          Ehhh.... hello! nothing personal here. No one is trying to hunt you down or rob you of your hard cummed money. Chill out, drink a coke, and stfu. you see me defending? I don't work for them nor have I used any affiliate links here. Instead of all this hustle and bustle, all the haters go try it out (I think they have a free trial or something) and then come back instead of bullshitting without even looking. Heck, maybe there is something new to learn. How can people be so closed minded. It's like I offended their own personal god. Instead of trying to be open minded and learn from each industries you're closed on your own habits, very close to religious zealousness

                                                                                          Alright. NATS OWNS, it's the best system that was ever created and ever will exist. NATS is the ultimate piece of software ever coded, it's lightyears ahead of it's time, perhaps even employing alien technology. All HAIL NATS. ALL HAIL NATS.
                                                                                          Now gfy you ignorant sheep. I'd rather go shoot myself than follow the mob.

                                                                                          AMEN.

                                                                                          $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                                                                                          Kal

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                                                                                          • Brujah
                                                                                            Beer Money Baron
                                                                                            • Jan 2001
                                                                                            • 22157

                                                                                            #46
                                                                                            If I had any part in NATS development, I'd ignore the guys hostility but pay close attention to the useful features that HasOffers provides. A great way to fill out the development roadmap for future versions of NATS.

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                                                                                            • Jel
                                                                                              Confirmed User
                                                                                              • Feb 2007
                                                                                              • 6904

                                                                                              #47
                                                                                              lol, what a fucking cock. Spit your dummy out much there in your last post?

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                                                                                              • 2MuchMark
                                                                                                Mark of 2Much.net
                                                                                                • Aug 2004
                                                                                                • 50984

                                                                                                #48
                                                                                                Hi kalel120,

                                                                                                Just curious - have you tried contacting your rep at TMM? Maybe your sales rep at TMM can help you out. I don't know if they charge for their time or not (I don't think so) but everyone there is pretty nice and I'm sure they would not want to lose anyone as a client who maybe didn't know how to use their system properly.

                                                                                                Good luck!

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                                                                                                • DamageX
                                                                                                  Marketing & Strategy
                                                                                                  • Jun 2001
                                                                                                  • 14293

                                                                                                  #49
                                                                                                  Foot, meet mouth.
                                                                                                  Whitehat is for chumps

                                                                                                  If you don't do it, somebody else will - true story!

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                                                                                                  • porno jew
                                                                                                    Too lazy to set a custom title
                                                                                                    • Nov 2006
                                                                                                    • 10166

                                                                                                    #50
                                                                                                    back to digital point you third world retard.

                                                                                                    Originally posted by kalel120
                                                                                                    Ehhh.... hello! nothing personal here. No one is trying to hunt you down or rob you of your hard cummed money. Chill out, drink a coke, and stfu. you see me defending? I don't work for them nor have I used any affiliate links here. Instead of all this hustle and bustle, all the haters go try it out (I think they have a free trial or something) and then come back instead of bullshitting without even looking. Heck, maybe there is something new to learn. How can people be so closed minded. It's like I offended their own personal god. Instead of trying to be open minded and learn from each industries you're closed on your own habits, very close to religious zealousness

                                                                                                    Alright. NATS OWNS, it's the best system that was ever created and ever will exist. NATS is the ultimate piece of software ever coded, it's lightyears ahead of it's time, perhaps even employing alien technology. All HAIL NATS. ALL HAIL NATS.
                                                                                                    Now gfy you ignorant sheep. I'd rather go shoot myself than follow the mob.

                                                                                                    AMEN.

                                                                                                    $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
                                                                                                    Kal

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