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PornoMonster 04-04-2012 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 18864861)
We plan on touring the states in the near future and I was concerned about each states gun laws and I came up with this http://www.gunlawguide.com/

I will be purchasing a copy of this to be sure we are compliant ;)

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html

Click the state you were issued your CCW in. the Map changes to show

Fletch XXX 04-04-2012 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864463)

There are huge numbers of gun owners in this country who will not turn over their guns without a fight. IF the people in that video had refused to give up their guns and those making them do so had shot them, all hell would have broken loose. The cops, military, whoever would not be safe from retaliation and/or liability.

You have clearly never been in the situation where you are being forced to leave your home, take only a few things because you are going to a shelter and are told cannot take your guns etc...

this is all fantasy. you and everyone else in this thread will turn over ytour weapon like the other... when you standing there on side of road with your belongings and being escorted out of city you do as youre told or go to jail, you are not going to kill a soldier over it. They park hummers at every exit along highway and force everyone leave, yeah you gonna shoot all them???

americans are never going to shoot cops when they come to their door during a hurricane, sorry, you guys can pretend to be all tough on gfy but i promise you no one of you is going to raise your firearm at a group of soldiers with machine guns standing at your driveway.

its all talk on gfy but nothing to do with reality of being disarmed.

As i said, come sit through it, then tell me youll shoot someone for disarming you.

Have seen men bigger than you with more guns, hand them over because they are not about to die in front of their kids for being stupid.

Ive been under martial law dozens of times and have seen it since i was a child, gfy fantasy has nothing to do with reality.

not meaning any disrepesct, i think people far away from reality of martial law seem to have this comfort of owning a weapon, well, those rights disappear in about 2 minutes under martial law, and you shall be disarmed.

martial law is clearly defined and your right are gone. No NRA or wishful thinking will change that.

anyhow, glad you made it out fine....

sperbonzo 04-04-2012 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by JP-pornshooter (Post 18864369)
it is fairly difficult to get a CCW permit in California.
difficult as in you have to write to the local sheriff and have a pretty good reason why you need to protect yourself in public. security guard or jewelry store owner etc..
i am guessing you are in NV or AZ?

Actually 32 states are "shall issue" states. Meaning you do not need to show a reason, simply a clean background check by the state and training.


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sperbonzo 04-04-2012 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by lo0ni (Post 18864569)
Not all states allow you to carry a concealed weapon into supermarkets. In many(most?) states it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon into places of public accommodations ; even if you have a CCW permit

Not correct. Plesae check your facts again, 32 out of 50 allow in every public place except: Government offices, Bars, sporting events, and schools (the last one is changing also)

Private business is allowed to post no weapons, but VERY few ever do.



.:2 cents:

DWB 04-04-2012 06:18 AM

Should have shot that old bitch in the knee to teach her a lesson. ;-)

Fletch XXX 04-04-2012 06:28 AM

regarding turning over guns without a fight...

ps they wont just shoot you, they disarm you violently and arrest you. youtube has enough vids... i mean even the old lady resisted.

and it was done to MANY MANY MANY MANY people who resisted.

Not everyone smiled and turned over their weapon. Was anyone shot? who knows, all we know is what we are told and shown, plenty people never found ever again... and we busted cops covering murders already so it bound to happened more.

Theres been even cases brought to trial where cops shot people after and during hurricane katrina, some even put bodies in car by police station and set the evidence on fire (found guilty)

one of the famous cases is cops shooting people for crossing bridge.

yes, they did.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings

this is what happens under martial law. not peaceful people walking around with concealed weapons, its martial fucking law. guns are drawn and ready.

DWB 04-04-2012 06:55 AM

My grandma was out of her mind and refused to go into a home. She would go out driving then have to call someone because she would have no idea where she was or how she got there. She also would see herself and have full conversations with herself.

Fletch XXX 04-04-2012 06:56 AM

heheh was just reading news.... here is top headline on nola.com latest news.

http://www.nola.com/crime/index.ssf/...n_danzige.html

5 ex-cops convicted in Danziger Bridge police shootings await sentencing

The five former New Orleans police officers convicted last summer in the unjustified shootings of unarmed civilians on the Danziger Bridge and a subsequent cover-up are set to be sentenced Wednesday morning in federal court. Four of them are facing sentences that, by law, will stretch at least three decades.

I wish these swine long sentences

DWB 04-04-2012 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18865595)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Danziger_Bridge_shootings

this is what happens under martial law. not peaceful people walking around with concealed weapons, its martial fucking law. guns are drawn and ready.

Stuff like that doesn't get enough attention.

Most people don't want to believe just how corrupt and violent some police are. Then when they hear stories, they still don't believe it. even with evidence, they try to find excuses.

Fletch XXX 04-04-2012 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by DWB (Post 18865657)
Stuff like that doesn't get enough attention.

Most people don't want to believe just how corrupt and violent some police are. Then when they hear stories, they still don't believe it. even with evidence, they try to find excuses.

Which is always why I try and stick to facts and inform people :)

here is another, which is so gruesome it makes normal killers look like fairies.

Here an injured man tries to seek help at a school where he knows police are during hurricane,... they handcuff him to table, he ends up dead, and burned in car two blocks from police station.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/23873664/detail.html

broad daylight. under martial law, things like this occur because citizens shouldnt be in city limits any longer and with everyone gone, no one hears you scream...

Nikki_Licks 04-04-2012 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by PornoMonster (Post 18864968)
http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html

Click the state you were issued your CCW in. the Map changes to show

Thanks for the link, I think you just might have saved me some money :thumbsup

I will ad this to the list in my gun info folder. I am more concerned about carrying in the RV, but this link is also very helpful.

AaronM 04-04-2012 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikki_Licks (Post 18865805)
Thanks for the link, I think you just might have saved me some money :thumbsup


Hey fuck face, way to pay attention. :winkwink:

I posted that link back on page 2.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18864176&postcount=64


I feel ignored and invalidated. You must not love me anymore. :(

Gonna go cry and hug my teddy bear now.

Nikki_Licks 04-04-2012 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18865819)
Hey fuck face, way to pay attention. :winkwink:

I posted that link back on page 2.

https://gfy.com/showpost.php?p=18864176&postcount=64


I feel ignored and invalidated. You must not love me anymore. :(

Gonna go cry and hug my teddy bear now.

I totally missed that :1orglaugh

Ah, you know the love is there ;)

Thank you for the link, too.....paying attention now.

Dirty F 04-04-2012 08:53 AM

Walking around with a gun in a supermarket.

Fucking idiot country with idiot people.

Amazing, truly amazing.

BFT3K 04-04-2012 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18865911)
Walking around with a gun in a supermarket.

Fucking idiot country with idiot people.

Amazing, truly amazing.

Dude, when a bull charges you in aisle five, you gotta be ready to pop a cap in his ass! Think about it.

http://i.huffpost.com/gen/76725/thum...IDEO-large.jpg

Same thing in church. What if the devil appears, and you're unarmed?

What are you gonna do then? What would Jesus do?

http://mariopiperni.com/wp-content/u...jesus-rile.jpg

porno jew 04-04-2012 09:56 AM

insane. think of your child and the world you are creating and bringing him into. absolute insanity.

like an abusive relationship, you think it is normal to creep around the supermarket with weapons, but believe me, from the outside it looks sick and deranged.

i love the average american from gfy. sleeps with guns under their pillows, patrols their garbage cans with machine guns, and now stalks the supermarket and harasses old ladies packing heat. totally deranged. but they think it is normal while the rest of the world thinks what the fuck?

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18864130)
Great answer, and one that's similar to what I tell people when they ask why I'm always carrying.

Someone then said something about living in fear if you carry all the time.... Actually at this point it's simply a habit, not fear at all. I just know that I would feel so stupid if I found myself in a situation where I needed it, and had the ability to have it with me, but didn't have it



.:2 cents:



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sperbonzo 04-04-2012 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18866080)
insane. think of your child and the world you are creating and bringing him into. absolute insanity.

like an abusive relationship, you think it is normal to creep around the supermarket with weapons, but believe me, from the outside it looks sick and deranged.

i love the average american from gfy. sleeps with guns under their pillows, patrols their garbage cans with machine guns, and now stalks the supermarket and harasses old ladies packing heat. totally deranged. but they think it is normal while the rest of the world thinks what the fuck?


And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


.:2 cents:


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BlackCrayon 04-04-2012 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18866099)
And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


.:2 cents:


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i hope you have some kind of fortress because a gun will not protect you from the situation you are describing and you know thats not really why you (or most others) carry a gun, its just the reasoning you use. it might help you against a single intruder but even that is a very rare situation. i tend to think those who feel the need to always have gun on them must be either be scared people or people who want to intimidate others.

PastorSinAlot 04-04-2012 10:14 AM

old dirty bitch

porno jew 04-04-2012 10:22 AM

guess what. i will go to my grave without the government storming my house or "taking away my liberties." in fact you are the one losing your liberties. why is that?

also i can walk down the street without people packing guns so it is safe. there is no need for guns.

you are a father. you are bringing up your child in a sick and deranged culture.

you are also not stupid. do some soul searching and think about the world you are creating, where you have to pack a gun to go to the supermarket.

that is objectively insane and the sign of a very sick and pathological culture.

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18866099)
And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


.:2 cents:


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porno jew 04-04-2012 10:23 AM

do you always talk and write in what sounds like a cut and paste from right wing american talk radio and lewrockwell.com? think for yourself for once and don't be such a sheep.

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18866099)
And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


.:2 cents:


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sperbonzo 04-04-2012 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew (Post 18866157)
do you always talk and write in what sounds like a cut and paste from right wing american talk radio and lewrockwell.com? think for yourself for once and don't be such a sheep.


Just for the record. I'm NOT a republican, I get my information form a myriad of sources and I read voraciously, mostly history. I think both parties are screwed, but...
Fair enough. You seem to me to spend all your time quoting left wing talking points, and I also urge you to think for yourself, and read from sources other than only those you agree with.

Agree to disagree, I guess.




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Tom_PM 04-04-2012 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18865409)
Not correct. Plesae check your facts again, 32 out of 50 allow in every public place except: Government offices, Bars, sporting events, and schools (the last one is changing also)

Private business is allowed to post no weapons, but VERY few ever do.



.:2 cents:

So, to be fair, the only thing he was not correct about was "(most?)".

sperbonzo 04-04-2012 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by PR_Tom (Post 18866250)
So, to be fair, the only thing he was not correct about was "(most?)".

That's right. He said in "many/most", which I think completely colored the point he was trying to make. The way he was phrasing it, it should read the opposite. "Many/most states allow you to carry in places of public accomidation"

Actually, the figure of 32 that I quoted is a very conservative number, and I believe it is now much higher.


.:2 cents:

JP-pornshooter 04-04-2012 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18866127)
i hope you have some kind of fortress because a gun will not protect you from the situation you are describing and you know thats not really why you (or most others) carry a gun, its just the reasoning you use. it might help you against a single intruder but even that is a very rare situation. i tend to think those who feel the need to always have gun on them must be either be scared people or people who want to intimidate others.

most likely these guys live in NV or AZ.
lots of low lifes in these areas and i can see the need to carry at times, mostly due to fact that all these lowlifes are carrying. and lots of low life crime.
personally i prefer to live a place where you dont need to bring your gun to the supermarket.
honestly i dont like police as they always seem to think they are above the law but i can certainly see why they shoot first and ask second when every other low life is carrying a gun...

porno jew 04-04-2012 11:03 AM

i don't believe in any political ideology. i am just speaking as a human.

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18866189)
Just for the record. I'm NOT a republican, I get my information form a myriad of sources and I read voraciously, mostly history. I think both parties are screwed, but...
Fair enough. You seem to me to spend all your time quoting left wing talking points, and I also urge you to think for yourself, and read from sources other than only those you agree with.

Agree to disagree, I guess.




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MKA 04-04-2012 11:54 AM

You are just a motherfucking asshole who tried to steal from the old lady. I'm sure the guy who took the purse is your friend who you work together with, fucking scumbag.

V_RocKs 04-04-2012 12:04 PM

Take the time to write the store about your concerns and they will send you gift certificates worth somewhere between $25 to $50.

Roald 04-04-2012 12:14 PM

Damn shitty situation but god damn, bunch of gun loving rednecks!!!!

Dirty F 04-04-2012 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Roald (Post 18866507)
Damn shitty situation but god damn, bunch of gun loving rednecks!!!!

Yeah, these people have no clue how insane this shit is. It's totally normal to them. Scary really. Something very wrong with that country.

JFK 04-04-2012 12:16 PM

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totalsexcams 04-04-2012 12:21 PM

cool story bro

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Roald 04-04-2012 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F (Post 18866509)
Yeah, these people have no clue how insane this shit is. It's totally normal to them. Scary really. Something very wrong with that country.

To each his own I'm just glad I don't live in a society of fear ;)

porno jew 04-04-2012 12:29 PM

http://i.usatoday.net/news/_photos/2...U5-x-large.jpg

CDSmith 04-04-2012 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863810)
Nothing like sitting around in handcuffs for 45 minutes.

Again??

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863810)
Fuckers should have at least given me the $54 worth of groceries for free.

Agreed. Prepaid gift card, a free rump roast, something.


Btw, speaking of old ladies, the old ladies used to come up to me at weddings poking me in the ribs and cackling "You're next!"

They stopped after I started doing the same thing to them at funerals.

shimmy2 04-04-2012 12:50 PM

sounds like a regular trip to the grocery store for me

Fletch XXX 04-04-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18866099)
And conversely, I find it bizarre that people would submit to a situation where only the government had weapons, and that citizens had no means to stand up to possible oppression, and where you would simply have to wait around for however long the police took to show up, in order to then protect you from the person in your house or attaching you. The blind reliance on some outside government agency to protect and defend you, especially as history has shown over and over and over again, that governments tend to do the opposite after they reach a certain level of control, is just unfathomable to me.


.:2 cents:


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no offense but really i laugh thinking about all the business guys in ties having to turn over their weapons while being escorted out of the city in thier corvette or 250k RV LOL I see it every hurricane. LOL Got an arsenal of weapons at home but when hurricane comes they evacuate like its a vacation in a 200k RV LOL sure theese are rvolutionaries!!! hahah

people talk like they will form a militia and fight the government, but as we see constantly no, if shit really hit the fan youd be buying the first flight out of new york or wherever the war is starting and would not be in a revolution.

i am not trying to insult anyone, its just hilarious thinking about all this wehn instantly in a real life situation you wont even be allowed to be outside after 6 pm let alone patrol your streets with weapons LOl (they declare 6pm curfew during hurricane, you arrested if you out after 6 pm)

I can see everyone packing their gucci and versacci suits to get out of town quickly, that whole be rambo shit dies down quick when reality hits (soldiers with machine guns pointed at you) - when they approach you, they ask if you have weapons, you answer yes they already have weapons on you. You dont comply, what you think happens? lol need i spell it out?

as i said, in normal civilian times yeah you walk around supermarket feeling tough, but really, if shit broke out, none of you would be in any revolution, youd be evacuated and be sitting in a hotel in another state. hehehe

Ayla_SquareTurtle 04-04-2012 02:00 PM

When you've been involved in a home invasion where dudes came into your house with guns, you start to understand why people want to own weapons. This issue is the reason I can't get along with liberals any better than I can conservatives.

From my cold, dead hands, motherfucker.

theking 04-04-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18866677)
no offense but really i laugh thinking about all the business guys in ties having to turn over their weapons while being escorted out of the city in thier corvette or 250k RV LOL I see it every hurricane. LOL Got an arsenal of weapons at home but when hurricane comes they evacuate like its a vacation in a 200k RV LOL sure theese are rvolutionaries!!! hahah

people talk like they will form a militia and fight the government, but as we see constantly no, if shit really hit the fan youd be buying the first flight out of new york or wherever the war is starting and would not be in a revolution.

i am not trying to insult anyone, its just hilarious thinking about all this wehn instantly in a real life situation you wont even be allowed to be outside after 6 pm let alone patrol your streets with weapons LOl (they declare 6pm curfew during hurricane, you arrested if you out after 6 pm)

I can see everyone packing their gucci and versacci suits to get out of town quickly, that whole be rambo shit dies down quick when reality hits (soldiers with machine guns pointed at you) - when they approach you, they ask if you have weapons, you answer yes they already have weapons on you. You dont comply, what you think happens? lol need i spell it out?

as i said, in normal civilian times yeah you walk around supermarket feeling tough, but really, if shit broke out, none of you would be in any revolution, youd be evacuated and be sitting in a hotel in another state. hehehe

When martial law is declared because of a natural disaster it is not the intent of the government to be "oppressive" per se. It is the intent of the government to "protect and serve"...thus it is not a revolutionary scenario. As for the actions of police...there are bad cops on virtually any force in the nation and New Orleans has a history of having a high number of bad cops on its force.


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