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DarkJedi 04-03-2012 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863810)
Pretty funny to have a cop hand me my gun back while trying to explain why he had been such an asshole to me. By the time this all ended, the cops, their Supervisor, store security, store management, and the retirement home manager were all there apologizing. I've never had so many people kissing my ass at the same time.

Should have taken out that gun and headshot everyone.

DarkJedi 04-03-2012 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by pornguy (Post 18863880)
Hire an attorney and Make them pay. Fuck it, its the American way.

Ha, no shit. Can probably sue all three of them: the PD, the store and the old hag.

"Severe emotional distress, resulting in panic attacks, loss of sleep and health deterioration"

:2 cents:

PR_Glen 04-03-2012 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863962)
No, not at all. Odd would be for me to be anywhere and not have a gun on me or withing arms reach 24/7.

Believe or not, it seems a lot of shootings happen in public places.

To me, owning a handgun and leaving it locked up at home seems odd. Unless you have too many to carry at once. ;)

if that's a problem where you live why would you live there?

i'm not anti gun by any means, i'm a fan of weapons in general, but carrying them around in public is fuckin cowboy shit and unnecessary north of mexico...


messed up story though. I have little patience for the elderly when it comes to crazies, no reason she should be out in public.

Sly 04-03-2012 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scott McD (Post 18863997)
Indeed. I'd have let them know i wouldn't be spending another coin in their store. And at the same time telling many others to do likewise...

What exactly did the store do wrong?

It sounds like everyone operated properly, aside from the woman with dementia and her care facility.

RyuLion 04-03-2012 01:22 PM

I would've just started picking my stuff again, specially after seeing a old lady had it..

DamianJ 04-03-2012 01:25 PM

Serves you right for being black.

BlackCrayon 04-03-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864010)
I have car insurance and never drive anywhere without a spare tire. Haven't used either for a few years.

Maybe I should stop paying my insurance premiums and save some gas mileage by ditching the spare tire. I mean, since I never use them and all...

decent analogy. i guess i just come from a society where people don't carry guns around with them typically. from my view, if i felt the need then i must be living in fear that i will need it at some point but like you said, the same could be said for those who always have a gps are in fear they will get lost at some point but there is a difference in that using it could result in taking a life or ending up behing bars.

alextokyo 04-03-2012 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863810)
About 15 minutes later, I am approached by 2 police officers who ask me what I've done with the woman's purse. Now she's standing there telling them I stole her cart and her purse. They hand cuffed me and took me into the store's security office. At this point they grab my wallet and find my CCW permit then they decide to frisk me and find my gun. All of a sudden, I'm a dirt bag and they start giving me even more attitude.

By the way, Mr. Responsible Gun Owner, as soon as you're approached by police officers, you're supposed to disclose that you're carrying a licensed weapon. Yes, they'll have you assume the position while they take the weapon, then probably spread your ass cheeks and squat and cough, it comes with the territory. You are responsible and your weapon is legal, right? It's just common fucking sense to know that you should have mentioned it straight up; they shouldn't have to find out themselves by delving around in your shitstained cum encrusted boxers and pulling out a loaded gun. Not surprised they gave you attitude. Personally, I would've shot you in your dumb fat bald head and asked questions later, Mr. Responsible Gun Owner. :2 cents:

Sly 04-03-2012 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18864066)
decent analogy. i guess i just come from a society where people don't carry guns around with them typically. from my view, if i felt the need then i must be living in fear that i will need it at some point but like you said, the same could be said for those who always have a gps are in fear they will get lost at some point but there is a difference in that using it could result in taking a life or ending up behing bars.

I think most people do it out of habit, and because they are comfortable with it, as opposed to actually being in fear. Most sane people don't stick around fear.

Rochard 04-03-2012 01:32 PM

You let a old lady jack your shopping cart?

AaronM 04-03-2012 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18864037)
if that's a problem where you live why would you live there?

i'm not anti gun by any means, i'm a fan of weapons in general, but carrying them around in public is fuckin cowboy shit and unnecessary north of mexico...

I never said there was a problem.

Millions of people disagree with you.

From a 2010 article:

"From its beginnings in the 1980s, the ?right-to-carry? movement has succeeded in boosting the number of licensed concealed-gun carriers from fewer than 1 million to a record 6 million today"

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34714389.../#.T3tdtNmwXng

Believe me, those numbers are much higher today.

brassmonkey 04-03-2012 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18864037)
if that's a problem where you live why would you live there?

i'm not anti gun by any means, i'm a fan of weapons in general, but carrying them around in public is fuckin cowboy shit and unnecessary north of mexico...


messed up story though. I have little patience for the elderly when it comes to crazies, no reason she should be out in public.

:1orglaugh its your right

livexxx 04-03-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18863859)
That leaves me with 11 rounds left. Why waste this kind of opportunity? If I shoot them each more than once, it could be considered excessive force.

Obviously you have not thought this out very well. I would need more targets. :disgust

With it being an old lady an all, and the others in the same aisle, couldn't you just drop 3 people in a row with one shot?

bash 04-03-2012 01:49 PM

You should have gone to the piece, Hoss. If those rent-a-cops were going to try to take me down I would have made them do it guns a blazin' !

borked 04-03-2012 01:53 PM

1. why are you carrying a gun around a supermarket.
2. how/why is this legal???

sperbonzo 04-03-2012 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864010)
I have car insurance and never drive anywhere without a spare tire. Haven't used either for a few years.

Maybe I should stop paying my insurance premiums and save some gas mileage by ditching the spare tire. I mean, since I never use them and all...

Great answer, and one that's similar to what I tell people when they ask why I'm always carrying.

Someone then said something about living in fear if you carry all the time.... Actually at this point it's simply a habit, not fear at all. I just know that I would feel so stupid if I found myself in a situation where I needed it, and had the ability to have it with me, but didn't have it



.:2 cents:



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L-Pink 04-03-2012 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 18864126)
1. why are you carrying a gun around a supermarket.
2. how/why is this legal???

In many states you can walk around with a gun on your hip in plain view. To carry the same gun concealed under your T-shirt you need a concealed carry permit.

No big deal. You stand a much better chance of some douche killing you with their car while texting than a gun owner shooting you. What's the fuss?

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sperbonzo 04-03-2012 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 18864126)
1. why are you carrying a gun around a supermarket.
2. how/why is this legal???


You do realize that 38 or 40 states out of 50 are "right to carry" states, and you can be issued a concealed carry permit if you pass the tests and the background investigations....


What is so crazy about carrying? It has been estimated that over 2 million crimes are averted every year by the presence of a legal firearm, 99% of times WITHOUT firing a shot.




.:2 cents:

xNetworx 04-03-2012 02:01 PM

bahahaha

Fletch XXX 04-03-2012 02:09 PM

cops hate the armed in my experience, i am glad you made it out unharmed and is a statement to your discipline and control of ones self in tense situations where tempaers may flare.

good job, again glad you made it out as you did... those situations can ALWAYS turn very ugly.

BlackCrayon 04-03-2012 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18864130)
Great answer, and one that's similar to what I tell people when they ask why I'm always carrying.

Someone then said something about living in fear if you carry all the time.... Actually at this point it's simply a habit, not fear at all. I just know that I would feel so stupid if I found myself in a situation where I needed it, and had the ability to have it with me, but didn't have it



.:2 cents:



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its a cultural thing i guess. i didn't grow up around guns or knew anyone who really owned anything more than hunting rifles. its just how it is around here. i think i'd be shitting myself daily wondering which guy i looked at the wrong way might be carrying living in a society where everyone can have one legally stuffed down their pants.

MaDalton 04-03-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18864130)
Great answer, and one that's similar to what I tell people when they ask why I'm always carrying.

Someone then said something about living in fear if you carry all the time.... Actually at this point it's simply a habit, not fear at all. I just know that I would feel so stupid if I found myself in a situation where I needed it, and had the ability to have it with me, but didn't have it

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Originally Posted by L-Pink (Post 18864135)
In many states you can walk around with a gun on your hip in plain view. To carry the same gun concealed under your T-shirt you need a concealed carry permit.

No big deal. You stand a much better chance of some douche killing you with their car while texting than a gun owner shooting you. What's the fuss?

.

maybe i would understand it better if i grew up in the US - but the idea of carrying a gun around still sounds pretty weird to me

but i also have never been in any situation where i would have needed one or would have felt better if i had one

i would probably be even more nervous with a gun than without one :1orglaugh

PR_Glen 04-03-2012 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18864140)
You do realize that 38 or 40 states out of 50 are "right to carry" states, and you can be issued a concealed carry permit if you pass the tests and the background investigations....


What is so crazy about carrying? It has been estimated that over 2 million crimes are averted every year by the presence of a legal firearm, 99% of times WITHOUT firing a shot.




.:2 cents:

because we've had 1 murder here in the last 5 years in a city of 200k bordering detroit. because our firearm related death rate is less than half of yours despite there being lots of guns in canada..

as i said before, i'm not against owning them at all. I just think it sounds crazy to me that you feel the need to carry them at all times. I can defend my people without a gun, why can't you?

AaronM 04-03-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by sperbonzo (Post 18864140)
You do realize that 38 or 40 states out of 50 are "right to carry" states, and you can be issued a concealed carry permit if you pass the tests and the background investigations....


What is so crazy about carrying? It has been estimated that over 2 million crimes are averted every year by the presence of a legal firearm, 99% of times WITHOUT firing a shot.


.:2 cents:

Actually, Illinois is the only State in the US that does not allow concealed carry. 49/50

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html

AaronM 04-03-2012 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18864158)
cops hate the armed in my experience, i am glad you made it out unharmed and is a statement to your discipline and control of ones self in tense situations where tempaers may flare.

good job, again glad you made it out as you did... those situations can ALWAYS turn very ugly.


Every time....Allow me to repeat that...EVERY TIME I have been pulled over and had a gun on me, I have ended up in a conversation with the officer about firearms and have yet to receive anything more than a "fix-it ticket". From my experiences, most police understand that if you have a CCW permit, you are typically not a threat.

DamianJ 04-03-2012 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by borked (Post 18864126)
1. why are you carrying a gun around a supermarket.

In case an old lady jacks his cart.

He shoulda popped a cap in her ass.

Fletch XXX 04-03-2012 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864182)
Every time....Allow me to repeat that...EVERY TIME I have been pulled over and had a gun on me, I have ended up in a conversation with the officer about firearms and have yet to receive anything more than a "fix-it ticket". From my experiences, most police understand that if you have a CCW permit, you are typically not a threat.

my point is you are treated like shit until AFTER the smoke settles, as i said, glad you made it out fine. :2 cents:

BFT3K 04-03-2012 02:30 PM

Only a crazy person would go to a supermarket unarmed. I mean, seriously...

http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Food...N.soldiers.jpg

Same thing with bike riding. You can never be too paranoid, ummm, I mean, safe!

http://cdn.cyclingforums.com/e/ed/ed...vily-armed.png

This is fucking America for God's sake!

http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/fil...y-with-gun.jpg

Bang Bang!

AaronM 04-03-2012 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18864159)
its a cultural thing i guess. i didn't grow up around guns or knew anyone who really owned anything more than hunting rifles. its just how it is around here. i think i'd be shitting myself daily wondering which guy i looked at the wrong way might be carrying living in a society where everyone can have one legally stuffed down their pants.


Not everyone can and there is a process for getting a permit in most States. AZ, VT, AK, MT, & WY do not require a permit to carry concealed but you still must be legally able to possess a gun or it isn't going to be legal to carry it. Duh right?

Technically speaking, anybody anywhere in the world can carry concealed but that doesn't make it legal. Kinda funny that some people here are more concerned with my legal ability to carry than about the convicted felons who carry illegally.

36 States think it's OK for me to carry in them. The way I see it, State and Federal laws trump personal opinions.

AaronM 04-03-2012 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18864171)
because we've had 1 murder here in the last 5 years in a city of 200k bordering detroit. because our firearm related death rate is less than half of yours despite there being lots of guns in canada..

as i said before, i'm not against owning them at all. I just think it sounds crazy to me that you feel the need to carry them at all times. I can defend my people without a gun, why can't you?


Apples and oranges.

Canada has many guns but nowhere near as many as the US. Statistics and common sense show that where there are more guns, there is more gun related violence. You can defend your people without a gun because your assailant is only armed with a hockey stick.

Obviously the hundreds of millions of guns in the US are not going to vanish anytime soon.

Nobody can dispute that more guns in public hands = more gun related crimes. However, more guns legally carried by US citizens have proven to stop more crime.

Bryan G 04-03-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by MaDalton (Post 18864161)
maybe i would understand it better if i grew up in the US - but the idea of carrying a gun around still sounds pretty weird to me

but i also have never been in any situation where i would have needed one or would have felt better if i had one

i would probably be even more nervous with a gun than without one :1orglaugh

Same here I feel no need whatsoever to carry a gun. I honestly just don't get it. In any event to each their own.

brassmonkey 04-03-2012 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by BFT3K (Post 18864207)
Only a crazy person would go to a supermarket unarmed. I mean, seriously...

http://www.standeyo.com/NEWS/10_Food...N.soldiers.jpg

Same thing with bike riding. You can never be too paranoid, ummm, I mean, safe!

http://cdn.cyclingforums.com/e/ed/ed...vily-armed.png

This is fucking America for God's sake!

http://www.viceland.com/blogs/en/fil...y-with-gun.jpg

Bang Bang!

hahahaha!@!!!!! :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

Fletch XXX 04-03-2012 02:52 PM

also my comment has a little to do with seeing stuff like this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4

having been under martial law and seen in person how quick you lose thoe gun rights and its the military and police disarming you, I stand with armed citizens against the authority always. youre allowed to carry, until THEY SAY YOU CANT ANYMORe. hehehe

those same cops will be disarming you when martial law is declared, mark my words.

come live in nola and sit through a hurricane arming yourself only to be told you cant take your gun with you when you evacuate (also mandatory and against will) and to turn it over and see it destroyed right in front of you. scary shit man, america is all fine and dandy free until shit really happens like a hurricane. this can and will occur in any state where disaster occurs...

ive seen it time after time...

watch that vid,... the NRA is all up in it. and it think they won the case eventually but that wont stop them from disarming citizens.

georgeyw 04-03-2012 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864176)
Actually, Illinois is the only State in the US that does not allow concealed carry. 49/50

http://www.usacarry.com/concealed_ca...city_maps.html

I am curious, are you able to transport a gun with you when you catch a plane?

ie in the cargo hold etc and do you do this?

AaronM 04-03-2012 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Fletch XXX (Post 18864257)
also my comment has a little to do with seeing stuff like this

https://youtube.com/watch?v=-taU9d26wT4


Wait wait wait....

According that that video, black folk are allowed to own guns too?

Maybe I should reconsider my position on this whole gun control thing...

AaronM 04-03-2012 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18864323)
I am curious, are you able to transport a gun with you when you catch a plane?

ie in the cargo hold etc and do you do this?


Absolutely. I've done it many many times.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm

JP-pornshooter 04-03-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864344)
Absolutely. I've done it many many times.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm

it is fairly difficult to get a CCW permit in California.
difficult as in you have to write to the local sheriff and have a pretty good reason why you need to protect yourself in public. security guard or jewelry store owner etc..
i am guessing you are in NV or AZ?

aztecboi2003 04-03-2012 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackCrayon (Post 18863981)
just out of curiosity, why do you feel the need to always have one on you?

Maybe there's a lot of blacks where he lives?

georgeyw 04-03-2012 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AaronM (Post 18864344)
Absolutely. I've done it many many times.

http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtrav...rial_1666.shtm

That is interesting, thanks for the link.

Am I reading this correctly?

You can carry the gun (in a locked hard sided container) with you or checked in?

AaronM 04-03-2012 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by georgeyw (Post 18864376)
That is interesting, thanks for the link.

Am I reading this correctly?

You can carry the gun (in a locked hard sided container) with you or checked in?


No. It must be checked.


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