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So porn torrent sites are gone, mega upload & file hosters are gone... why are sales still down?
Lot of specific complaining this month on decline in sales. Shouldn't they be up?
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People are not adapting which is why their sales are dying.
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You must be promoting the wrong sites. Hit me up if you got tranny traffic and i will make you some dough
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there are still file hosters
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![]() ![]() For every megaupload there five oron.com
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None of that is gone and never will be.
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Liv Benson to You, Bitch
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http://geekdrop.com/content/what-is-...-site-for-porn Just checked few and a they are up and running. Like this one- rarbg.com
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Customer perception = porn is free.
Thanks to the tubes.
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There are still literally thousands of them out there filled to the top with pirated porn. And then you have the "desperation" sites like porn.com, where Pimproll is giving away all of their content from all of their paysites to try and gain traffic to make money off of that. Nope...for generic porn with LA girls fucked by LA guys...nothing has changed. It's all still free. |
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Piracy isn't gone by a long shot. A small dent has been made and it has helped in some cases because many older links have been eliminated at least temporarily. It will take a lot more to eliminate the negative effect piracy has had. Don't forget it took many years to get to this point starting from 2006/2007 where it got out of control.
My sales are actually pretty good overall this month. I only bitch about CCBill because it's frustrating to always have a ten day period each month where your conversions are double or triple as bad as another portion of the month. |
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People are so accustomed to free porn that they're practically offended at the idea of paying for it.
That being said, I got a completely random check in the mail today from a Pimproll Hosted Tube sale that I had no idea existed. ![]() |
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Porn torrent sites aren't gone. What planet does your brain live on? Planet Really Fucking Stupid?
Besides, "regular people" would rather pay a one time $10 fee to their cable or sattelite TV provider to watch a porn movie rather than risk paying a joke of an online internet site $30 bucks a month. File hosts have nothing to do with the decline of this business. |
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Makes me wonder why you haven't bought manwin or any other affiliate programs.
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Lets face it, mainstream porn is fucking dead. Every god damned tube has 40 Ava Devine videos, so theres no reason to push that shit unless you have some good SE position and get the real fan af Ava Devine. Now if you have shaved Japanese pussies content , you're in control. Try finding shaved Jap girl ? Fuck no again.
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When are you guys going to realize that piracy was always around and the market is just way bigger in 2012 compared to 1996 - 2008?
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"Piracy" back in 1996 was a few guys trading videos. Nobody has a problem with that. Piracy today is open access to all porn for free to hundreds of millions of people. It's a completely different thing. Your statement is just not the full story. Yes, the "market" is bigger. But the "market" is no longer a market for PORN. That's all free now. When are you going to realize that piracy has and is destroying the PORN business. Seems to have been great though for guys who don't mind running pirate sites and making money off of traffic selling everything BUT porn. |
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But the problem for our industry is this...my tgp's used to be full of those same teen boys. And we showed them just enough stuff to make them want to be able to get inside the members areas. So by the time they were old enough to get a credit card they were ready to buy. That don't happen now. The 15 year olds in 2008 who started on pirate sites are now adults who don't even think porn was ever anything BUT free. ![]() And of course there are still porn sites that offer something worth buying that is better than the free generic porn. But man...it sure killed affiliates of pay sites. I personally lost right at 7 figures a year in affiliate money I was making selling paysite memberships. ![]() |
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porn can be free at times...but it's still up to us how we can make the people itch to whip up their CC and pay
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six sales so far this month, a way up here!
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You are right about those TGP kids for sure, in fact I was one of them. ![]() |
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If your shit is shit nobody's going to buy it.
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The hardest part is getting someone to sign up for their first membership with a site. If they have a good experience, they'll be buying porn for life because it's simply much better than tubes, torrents, free clips, etc.
On the other hand, if they get their card banged, hit with a ton of shady cross sells or whatever, they're most likely never buying porn or anything porn-related again. A lot of the industry did this to themselves over the years. |
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<--- Not complaining about sales at all.
Are you providing your customers with new content? Consumers always want to see new stuff.
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Brilliant theory. That's probably why why people steal Adobe Photoshop. Shitty product. |
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Because tubes?
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Stop crying here and go to work, you lazy bastards!
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Economic depression perhaps?
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Adapt or die and stay broke and miserable bitching on boards
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Bank and credit card statements with internet transactions come in the mail also. Yes, she will see your twink memberships there too.
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There is still a ton of file-sharing services and torrents. Check pornolab.net - I believe there you will find a full site rip of everything.
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you think that's the only way to get free porn? you ever go to a tube site?
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a few are gone but there are hundreds more taking their place.
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File share sites are just ONE of many things draining porn sales.
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People steal far more mainstream product than they do porn. Porn just has no real protection, and the unique situation of having "respectable" merchants compensating thieves for ripping off their friends and suppliers. Its like a vendor paying a thief to steal his farmer supplier's crops and selling them for half price - seems smart now but in five years they'll both have starved to death. It isn't bad product either - are you telling me that grainy shitty movies that end with 30 seconds of Ron Jeremy's sweaty face before the cum shot were better? That seeing the same piss poor tit jobs and hearing that fucking ridiculous music that everyone makes fun of was better? Those movies sucked ass and they were made to take money, not for quality. The only ones anyone watches today is because they were "seminal" (literally) or "groundbreaking". In truth they sucked and the reason anyone used them is because the alternative was Crazy Larry Flynt's moonrock bitches. People now try to get everything for free. Online porn was at one time, maybe, a 5 bil business; I'd say 200mil now. People below a certain age think they are being outsmarted if they have to pay. I don't think sales will ever go up significantly again. I think the pie is 200m. Value of pirated software nearly $59 billion: study |
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Torrent/Filelockers exist since 2002,and money was still good till tube sites arrived.Since then(2007/2008) sales went to complete shitter.I mean how can you blame pirate sites for sales if maybe 90% of entire traffic goes to top 10 tube sites?
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PimpRoll gives away short tube clips of its exclusive scenes, just for the record and we opened up www.paidperview.com for others to adapt and make $$ from TUBES.
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everyone is clever like someones dog, but have you people found that in europe we have after months of cold and shitty weather finaly warmer and sunny days? summer is coming, people are going out and spending money outside, not wasting time with computers and so. summer slowdown bitch!
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Yeah, whatever.
Got any other pearls of wisdom to share with us asshat? .
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I don't know if I would consider 30 minute videos "short tube clips". I just went to porn.com and clicked on one video, for free, that I recognized from clips I used to promote pimproll many years ago. At least some of those videos you are giving away for free on porn.com are the same ones your affiliates are trying to sell. It's your right to do this but there's no sense beating around the bush or sugarcoating it.
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