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Old 03-23-2012, 11:52 AM   #101
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you misdiagnose him. he's just simply at the level of a 14 year old who read his first ayn rand book and turned fanatical about it. nothing more.

schizos will usually have something unique and idiosyncratic about their delusions where johnny is just boilerplate libertarianism and david icke but dumbed down quite a bit.
Of course, neither of us can diagnose him unless he continues. I will say that there are not only types of schizophrenia but degrees. It can be the result of complex neurological disorders that are passed in genes, or it can also spontaneously appear when urged by stress or trauma and also dissapear.

That said, its a complex issue and not always easily diagnosed. I understand what you are saying and I almost want to agree with you except these things you mention are all connected by the common thread of both paranoid and delusional ideas and beliefs/fixations. The recurring themes he clings to are all common to a person suffering from schizophrenia. They don't necessarily have to have some bizarre fixation or "idiosyncratic" idea to believe (i.e. MindWaste and Avril or Cam_girls believing he's Adam from the bible). The extreme and irrational mistrust in "authority figures" (meaning the irrational degree to which he does not trust and irrational manner in which he both expresses it and defends it) is the first red flag and always a common trait to one degree or another. The insane ideas, incoherent and incomplete thoughts, bizarre rationalizations, continually shifting topics etc etc etc are all pretty common traits (i.e. cognitive processes are impaired, excessive/irrational emotion, inability to stay on track and form a coherent argument etc).

Of course someone immature could also possibly behave in this manner to an extent but someone who is "just immature" doesn't end up fervently trying to convince others we are the children of aliens and insist "its quite obvious when you think about it" and so on.

I also agree he is pretty immature and naive in his ideas, however, its hard to really tell if that's just immaturity or the driving need to again, reaffirm his bizarre world view as the result of a mental disorder. I think those two things are very hard to separate by reading forum posts.... and again, its quite possible that he's a 14 year old trying to sound smart.

Additionally, i'm confident that if you filled a room full of people who were simultaneously "Ayn Rand, Libertarian and David Icke fans" - you'd end up with a significantly disproportionate number of mentally ill people. ;)
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When did I ever refute the idea of education? I'm all for education, which is why I'm against schools...and public schools

Just like I'm for freedom, which is why I am against governments...

Not difficult, try keeping up
where does one get their education then? The elves? or do they talk to the trees directly?
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I'm an anarchist.

We don't need government or taxes.

We can live without police, armies and government.

All we need to do is agree to what rights we want to have as a civilized society. We'll call this new thing the "bill of schmrights"

Then, we'll decide together what rules we want to live by as a society. We'll just call these new things "schmlaws"

We'll then organize volunteers to arbitrate disputes, protect each other, protect our rights and stop others from infringing in the rights we all agreed to have and afford each other. We'll call these people "Schmolice"

Since Schmolice need oversight, we'll create a new level of volunteers called "Schmayors" who will also manager other administrative aspects of our new Schmities

Of course, we don't want houses burning down and children being roasted alive. We'll probably need to start a group of "fire putter outers". We'll call that the Schmire Department

To make sure your neighbors aren't building unsafe houses that can burst into flames due to faulty wiring, flammable construction materials and so on, causing your whole life and family to go up in flames one night, we'll have to create something called "Schmuilding Codes" and volunteers to rigorously enforce those codes

Since we don't want people to buy tainted food products, i guess we'll need to have a department of volunteers who oversee the processing, production, packaging, labeling and distribution of food products. We'll just call these new volunteers....

oh... wait, i'm building a government again...
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That would be a 4.0/4.0
Is it your understanding that a 4.0 average is the highest one available at MIT?
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Very easy way to simply blow off the truth.
Ohh... unilaterally declaring yourself right. Who'd expect that from someone suffering from some form of schizophrenia? The fact is that you're too emotionally fragile to consider being wrong.

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This has happened all throughout history and you can't even see it. So yea I guess HUMANS are alone in the universe, science is all there is, and conspiracies NEVER happen. Impossible.

And "I" am the crazy one? That's a real knee-slapper
These are all common traits to those suffering from some form of schizophrenia. Only YOU know the truth (i.e. my totally insane ideas are right and EVERYONE ELSE, is conveniently wrong). This is nothing more than a defense mechanism of a mentally ill person.

1) No one said "humans are alone in the universe" - Thats been said you countless times. You simply repeat that because its a safe point to retreat to when you start saying "we're all the children of aliens and they are on this planet controlling us"... as if someone argued there is no life in the universe.

2) No one said "conspiracies never happen" - you simply retreat to remarks like that again, to add weight or credibility (in your mind) to your insane ideas which commonly center around a vast conspiracy

3) Your idea of truth, i've noticed is quite flexible and ambiguous

I'm not trying to change you... i'm just trying to keep you talking because its actually quite fascinating to me.
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And you earned a 4.0 GPA there, correct?
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Yes

That would be a 4.0/4.0
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Is it your understanding that a 4.0 average is the highest one available at MIT?
From the MIT Office of the Registrar:

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Sorry there JohnnyClips, but you fail!

Here, try this and come back and explain it to us (I'm pretty sure that it's not rocket science):



Don't despair, you're mildly entertaining even though you are mostly full of shit...

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lol, ADG continues to look dumber and dumber with his corny irrelevant pictures...
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lol, ADG continues to look dumber and dumber with his corny irrelevant pictures...


You might have a point except that your premise is wrong, since the topic is JohnnyClips and I was responding to his apparently getting caught in a lie about his academic background. How is what I posted irrelevant?

Don't tell us that you got your tinfoil diploma from MIT too?

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johnny your caps lock is sticking buddy.
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Its obviously been rocket science the whole time
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despite all your rage you're still just a rat in a cage
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You believe authority figures aka presidents, the media, "officials" and never question their ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUS claims. You also acknowledge that government secrets, top secret facilities and secret societies exist. You KNOW this because of COMPARTMENTALIZATION. Then you claim you KNOW the truth. How the hell is that even remotely possible?
No one makes (or has made) any of claims that you repeatedly insist people are making. No one has said or done anything you say people are saying or doing (not questioning the President, believing "everything", "claiming to know the truth" etc). That is pure fabrication on your part. Most of your replies rely on fabricated arguments which were never made and fabricated points which were never stated by anyone in the discussion.

You continually repeat the same thing because you have to. You are in a borderline state of delirium where your fragile emotional state is threatened by a reality you've convinced yourself doesn't exist (or conversely, the reality which you've constructed for yourself and made yourself believe does exist). You keep rebutting non-existent arguments and keep refuting non-existent points as a last defense, which is a major tipoff that you're mentally ill (forgetting about your interpretation of reality, your rambling and incoherent thoughts, paranoid delusions etc) because at the end of it all, you have no logical, rational or reasonable position and above all things, your views/positions are completely inflexible as they are driven by your illness and need to believe as a means of reconciling the distorted world you perceive as a result of your illness and the world as it actually is (or as the vast majority of people perceive it).

You then wrap it up your rebuttal to non-existent points and arguments by posing questions which is a typical and perhaps the most overused tactic of any conspiracy nut, the point of which is to both put the other on the defensive and shift the discussion, focus and attention away from your delusional beliefs to what you feel are easily winnable discussion points.
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Me: Fact after fact after fact
You: Insult and name calling

I win, you lose. FACT
actually i dont think i insulted you at all there. pretty unusual for me

the FACTS are indeed as I have presented them

despite all your apparent rage for the system you are just as much a part of it as the rest of us
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No one makes (or has made) any of claims that you repeatedly insist people are making. No one has said or done anything you say people are saying or doing (not questioning the President, believing "everything", "claiming to know the truth" etc). That is pure fabrication on your part. Most of your replies rely on fabricated arguments which were never made and fabricated points which were never stated by anyone in the discussion.

You continually repeat the same thing because you have to. You are in a borderline state of delirium where your fragile emotional state is threatened by a reality you've convinced yourself doesn't exist (or conversely, the reality which you've constructed for yourself and made yourself believe does exist). You keep rebutting non-existent arguments and keep refuting non-existent points as a last defense, which is a major tipoff that you're mentally ill (forgetting about your interpretation of reality, your rambling and incoherent thoughts, paranoid delusions etc) because at the end of it all, you have no logical, rational or reasonable position and above all things, your views/positions are completely inflexible as they are driven by your illness and need to believe as a means of reconciling the distorted world you perceive as a result of your illness and the world as it actually is (or as the vast majority of people perceive it).

You then wrap it up your rebuttal to non-existent points and arguments by posing questions which is a typical and perhaps the most overused tactic of any conspiracy nut, the point of which is to both put the other on the defensive and shift the discussion, focus and attention away from your delusional beliefs to what you feel are easily winnable discussion points.

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From the MIT Office of the Registrar:



Sorry there JohnnyClips, but you fail!

Here, try this and come back and explain it to us (I'm pretty sure that it's not rocket science):



Don't despair, you're mildly entertaining even though you are mostly full of shit...

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Hey johnny

Good to see you are fighting the good fight. Good job.
What do you think of www.thrivemovement.com ?
Anything useful there?
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Hey johnny

Good to see you are fighting the good fight. Good job.
What do you think of www.thrivemovement.com ?
Anything useful there?


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johnny how will property rights be enforced without the government, police and the courts?
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It's not Rocket Science. It's just JohnnyClips
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It's not Rocket Science. It's just JohnnyClips


With a 4.0/4.0 GPA from MIT (although he appears to have conveniently sidestepped that issue)...

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What facts?

Instead of going after the MESSENGER why don't you go after THOSE IN POWER who are withholding all knowledge and information from you? You're like a slave who teams up with his slave master and attacks other slaves. Makes little to know sense. Quite frustrating to see it happen...and so sad at the same time.
no actually i am very independent compared to most

i am postive that government spin exists - everything is spun to make it sound better - thats how we humans operate - we know spin exists and we accept it

what we dont do is take this spin and turn it in to such a ridiculous fairy tale that our lives become a living hollywood horror
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You might have a point except that your premise is wrong, since the topic is JohnnyClips and I was responding to his apparently getting caught in a lie about his academic background. How is what I posted irrelevant?

Don't tell us that you got your tinfoil diploma from MIT too?

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lol, dude you're a fucking clown.

Now post another lame comic strip picture that you think helps illustrate your point...
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With a 4.0/4.0 GPA from MIT (although he appears to have conveniently sidestepped that issue)...

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ROFL. Post transcripts or get the fuck out JohnnyClips
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lol, dude you're a fucking clown.

Now post another lame comic strip picture that you think helps illustrate your point...
Aww, he really hurt you huh? It's ok babe. Let it all out. Let good ol uncle coup be your shoulder to cry on. LOL
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Ridiculous fairy tale is using religion and/or science to try and find the greater truth


It's not rocket science, so please explain how you claim to have a 4.0/4.0 GPA from MIT, when MIT operates on a 5.0 grade point scale?

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ROFL. Post transcripts or get the fuck out JohnnyClips
I called him on that before. Oddly, he was unable to post any evidence at all! Imagine!
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I called him on that before. Oddly, he was unable to post any evidence at all! Imagine!


Poor confused JohnnyClips, self-proclaimed boy genius, and self-appointed GFY decider of all that is true and false, bragged about how he obtained a perfect 4.0 GPA at MIT, apparently unaware that MIT operates on a 5.0 grading system.

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It's a 4.0 GPA out of 4.0

Wasn't that difficult at all. I knew how to work the system
nice compliance with authority. i knew you had it in you.
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It's a 4.0 GPA out of 4.0

Wasn't that difficult at all. I knew how to work the system
Shame you didn't know how to work the google.

MIT, as stated, works on a 5.0 system. When you lie, at least to a little research first. Otherwise you look like a spastic.

Sigh

http://web.mit.edu/registrar/gpacalc.html
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telling the truth means you are slave to AUTHORITY.

great job on the PHILOSOPHY johnny! keep it up!
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what year you graduate from the indoctrination camp johnny?
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what did you study at m.i.t johnny? rocket science?
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I didn't graduate in 2012...

Again, not rocket science.
Typical scatterbrain response. No one said that you graduated in 2012 (the class of 2012 hasn't even graduated yet, duh).



You were caught in a bald-faced lie trying to brag about a perfect 4.0 GPA from MIT (when a perfect GPA at MIT is 5.0 - any real MIT student would know that), and that is the best that you could come up with...

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You obviously did not attend, so how would you know? I was there for four years, I think i'd know
http://web.mit.edu/registrar/gpacalc.html

"The MIT grade point average is calculated on a 5.0 scale."
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:06 PM   #140
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so in summary johnny is not only a complete lunatic but he is also a liar
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Old 03-24-2012, 03:51 PM   #142
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get in the pit with me johnny

lets show the world just how angry we are
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they say jump johnny

you say how high
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I didn't graduate in 2012
Of course not. No one believes you graduated... ever.

Thanks for your candor and for finally admitting the truth.
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quick check the tv for bugs
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Johnny, it's OK, you're among friends. We caught you in a lie, just apologise and move on. MIT has been running the 5.0 system long before you lied about graduating from there.
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No one makes (or has made) any of claims that you repeatedly insist people are making. No one has said or done anything you say people are saying or doing (not questioning the President, believing "everything", "claiming to know the truth" etc). That is pure fabrication on your part. Most of your replies rely on fabricated arguments which were never made and fabricated points which were never stated by anyone in the discussion.
He keeps doing that for some reason.

I'm pretty sure he is mentally ill.
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Funny when the guy that rants the loudest that people can't trust anything the government says, gets caught in a lie himself...

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Imaginary Gods exist and the government is there FOR YOU....but aliens do not exist. Because the government says so


Whatever you say JC...



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