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Old 03-06-2012, 11:15 AM   #1
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If you'd like to see Rush gone...

... sign the petition.

http://signon.org/sign/clear%2Dchann...289821-EPJx5_x

Looks like the goal will be reached in like an hour lol...
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Old 03-06-2012, 11:16 AM   #2
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I thought I read that he had apologized for that.
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He did apologize... twice.
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As stupid as a lot of what Rush says is, I'm just not a big fan of teaming up to shout people down, get them fired, etc., over saying stupid things.

The best antidote to idiotic speech is to respond to it with more intelligent, more persuasive speech, or to highlight the idiocy of the speaker by ridiculing him, satirizing him, or something along those lines.

I'd prefer that we leave Rush right where he is, and mock him viciously when such is called for, rather than move to silence and rhetorically martyr him by drumming him out of the broadcast booth.

Put another way: people I disagree with have a right to be entertained, too.
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Old 03-06-2012, 12:13 PM   #7
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Well... the village idiots have other heroes they can pray to. We've endured this assclown for too many decades. Even if he loses his show, someone else will pick him up.

There will always be plenty of fodder worthy of your eloquent ridicule, Q ;)
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I was worried about this Rush



Not a huge fan of Geddy Lee's vocals, but the band is alright.
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Not a huge fan of Geddy Lee's vocals, but the band is alright.
Me too. i was like Wow they have petition to stop bands now. surely they can go after bands far worse then rush
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Silence a voice for freedom.. because he said something stupid and rude?

Are you would be censors willing to play by the same rules? Will you agree to be silenced if you are found "guilty" of similar transgressions?
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Not a huge fan of Geddy Lee's vocals, but the band is alright.
You silly Canadians!
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Silence a voice for freedom.. because he said something stupid and rude?

Are you would be censors willing to play by the same rules? Will you agree to be silenced if you are found "guilty" of similar transgressions?
He's been saying stupid and rude and hateful shit for many decades. This latest nonsense is the final straw for many.
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As much as I hate Rush, I agree with the posters here who don't agree with the mob mentality to shut him down.

If we're advocates for free speech, then he should be allowed to say whatever ignorant, misinformed, boneheaded comments he wants. Shutting him down (and supporting the shut down of his show) essentially advocates censorship if the person is saying something you don't agree with.

This country has turned into a bunch of pussies who are actually taking away the freedoms of everyone because they don't like what someone else says or does. Fight the morons by not supporting those who endorse them, not by censoring them.
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He's been saying stupid and rude and hateful shit for many decades. This latest nonsense is the final straw for many.
I have never listened to the guy. I don't care what he says.

Are you a daily listener?

Stupid or not... stifling "free speech" of someone that you don't even need to listen to... that sounds very Republicanesque. ;-)
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I have never listened to the guy. I don't care what he says.

Are you a daily listener?

Stupid or not... stifling "free speech" of someone that you don't even need to listen to... that sounds very Republicanesque. ;-)
Yes I've listened to him plenty over the years. Sometimes on purpose sometimes by accident. The added beauty of free speech is I can tell his advertisers what they should do. It appears I wasn't alone.
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Well... the village idiots have other heroes they can pray to. We've endured this assclown for too many decades. Even if he loses his show, someone else will pick him up.

There will always be plenty of fodder worthy of your eloquent ridicule, Q ;)
All that's true enough, but IMO all people should be free to say pretty much whatever comes to mind, be it brilliant, foolish or anywhere in between.

So long as a speaker's words don't cross the line into something actionable from a legal perspective (and even then, I think a very high legal standard should be applied when determining whether speech is defamatory), I'm inclined to let them keep saying it, particularly if their continued ability to express themselves also tends to undermine the agenda they are trying to advance. ;-)

Naturally, if the people who sign Rush's paycheck decide he has become a liability larger than his ratings can justify, then it is absolutely within their rights to hand Rush his walking papers; I'm just not of the mind that I need to join the chorus of voices trying to push him out the door.

It's not really "censorship" for people to tell Rush's boss that he needs to be pulled off the air, btw. That's all just a group of people exercising their First Amendment rights and expressing their opinion to a broadcasting company, and Clear Channel has no obligation to give these anti-Limbaugh people what they are asking for. In the case of true censorship, what you would have is the government telling Clear Channel that they have no choice but to take Rush off the air.

There is a huge difference between true censorship and what this petition drive represents; I just happen to be against both. I have no issue with other people signing that petition, it's just not for me.
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Yes I've listened to him plenty over the years. Sometimes on purpose sometimes by accident. The added beauty of free speech is I can tell his advertisers what they should do. It appears I wasn't alone.
You should tell his advertisers what to do by not supporting them. Don't buy their products. Don't support those companies that advertise on his show. Fuck, AOL pulled their advertising, but did they say he should be shut down? No, because they understand what free speech is.

Pissing and moaning, signing petitions online is a cop out for the true way to voice your displeasure while still supporting free speech. Signing online petitions allows the lazy to still support those who support Rush (because they may like their products), while simultaneously bitching about Rush and those who support him.

Nut up and stop supporting those who endorse/support/advertise with him. That's how you handle things like this.

Fuck, Kirk Cameron just said a bunch of stupid shit about gays. Does that mean he should be banned from acting in his shitty christian movies? No. But it does mean that you can voice your displeasure with him by not seeing his shitty movies, thereby letting his producers, distributors, etc. that you don't support his views.
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I doubt it will be a petition that could bring him down. It will be too many sponsors pulling out. If he can't make money with the show they will pull him off the air.
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Exactly Q. I didn't even bother dignifying the reverse censorship claims. I have neither the time nor interest to bother explaining it but am glad you did.

That being said, I can see your argument by allowing that blowhard to continue on with his show. He'll always put his foot in his mouth much to our delight. However... there are no doubt 10 more waiting in the wings to take his place.
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Classic double standard right vs left. Bill Maher calls Palin a "dumb twat" and receives applause, Rush calls someone a slut and he is the scum of the Earth. Can't have a clearer double standard.
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Apples and oranges. Maher doesn't have sponsors he has to answer to... Rush does. The right had an opportunity to call for Maher's head... unless by and large they agreed with him?
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His real name is Rush? Thats as funny as calling someone Randy!
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He's been saying stupid and rude and hateful shit for many decades. This latest nonsense is the final straw for many.




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On the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse scandal, Limbaugh said, "This is no different than what happens at the Skull and Bones initiation ... And we're going to ruin people's lives over it and we're going to hamper our military effort, and then we are going to really hammer them because they had a good time.

You know, these people are being fired at every day [referring to the U.S. Military service members]. I'm talking about people having a good time, these people, you ever heard of emotional release?"
Rush Limbaugh has been a hypocrite for years (rails against drugs and calls for stiff sentences while he abuses drugs himself), calls for family values (divorced 3 times, his 4th wife is 26 years younger than himself), claims to be patriotic, yet assails military veterans who speak out against war, etc, etc, etc.

Signed the Boycott Clear Channel until Limbaugh gets the boot petition...

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It's looking like none of that will be necessary.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...hs-show/49552/

All Ads Pulled From the Rush Limbaugh Show

ouch.

Personally I don't think corporate interests should have anything to say or be considered a reflection of television content. They are whores, and respond only to bullshit like Fallwell's campaign against the TV show "Soap" - when there's controversy. They should keep their ads and stay out of philosophy, ideology, politics or causes - because they have none.

They're the backdrop and necessary bllshit background tapestry we skip whenever we can to justify "free" TV...

So though I hate Limbaugh with a passion, I think pulling ads here is just as bullshit as threatening to pull ads on "Soap", "M.A.S.H." and all those other shows the religious mentally retarded have hobbled in the past.

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It's looking like none of that will be necessary.

http://www.theatlanticwire.com/polit...hs-show/49552/

All Ads Pulled From the Rush Limbaugh Show

ouch.

Personally I don't think corporate interests should have anything to say or be considered a reflection of television content. They are whores, and respond only to bullshit like Fallwell's campaign against the TV show "Soap" - when there's controversy. They should keep their ads and stay out of philosophy, ideology, politics or causes - because they have none.

They're the backdrop and necessary bllshit background tapestry we skip whenever we can to justify "free" TV...

So though I hate Limbaugh with a passion, I think pulling ads here is just as bullshit as threatening to pull ads on "Soap", "M.A.S.H." and all those other shows the religious mentally retarded have hobbled in the past.

I guess I disagree. If I am going to buy ad space on a TV show or radio show (or magazine or whatever) in a way I am aligning myself with that person and I am putting money in their pocket which gives the appearance that I approve of whatever they are doing. If that person or show suddenly takes on a tone that you feel doesn't really reflect that of your company you should be able to pull your money out of their show.
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Rush Limbaugh is an idiot, but who gives a shit? Some morons like his show, and if you're not one of them you can choose not to listen. I'm tired of all these righteously indignant asswipes who think they have the right to get someone fired because they were offended.

Whether its this BS, or hounding Tracy Morgan about the gays, or whatever. No one should bend over for these special interest groups or angry housewives. He should say he's sorry once, and after that they can suck it.
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It's amazing how one man can ruffle so many people. Liberals have had a hardon for Rush for years. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. No advertisers no show, that's the bottom line.
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If you guys hate him, don't listen. If people want him off the air, they have a right to petition the owner of the company.

Nice to know the democrats have the time to raise 1.1 million to fight Rush
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/0...n_1317257.html

But they have tried so many times
http://www.inquisitr.com/16667/democ...rush-limbaugh/

Do you guys really think our politicians are petitioning to get Rush off the air for your benefit?

I love when people want to get rid of others that have a different point of view than their own. I don't agree with a lot of the things he says, so I don't listen to him.
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As much as I hate Rush, I agree with the posters here who don't agree with the mob mentality to shut him down.

If we're advocates for free speech, then he should be allowed to say whatever ignorant, misinformed, boneheaded comments he wants. Shutting him down (and supporting the shut down of his show) essentially advocates censorship if the person is saying something you don't agree with.

This country has turned into a bunch of pussies who are actually taking away the freedoms of everyone because they don't like what someone else says or does. Fight the morons by not supporting those who endorse them, not by censoring them.
The idiot left doesn't want free speech, they want no opposing speech because their idiocy can't stand up to it
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