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Jakez · 02-17-2012, 08:59 AM

Here you go JohnnyClips, they seem to have figured out what is going on:

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 08:59 AM

you always say that but in reality those "comfortable" with authority and conformity usually have the most stupid world views and are generally shallow and retarded.

there is a huge difference between a free thinker and an uncritical gullible idiot.

most think they are the first when they are really the latter.

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That guy is not trolling. Like most people in this business, he has serious issues with authority and conformity. Like most in this business, he's most likely unemployable and probably never held any job for more than 6 months. He rationalizes his diminished and troubled emotional state as all like him do, by continually stating, supporting an affirming his belief that his dysfunction as a person is actually a great gift that sets him apart (and notably above) all others and then safely reasos that everyone else must have the problem (and notably beneath him). This is the safe emotional cacoon that he's constructed for himself, so that he may never have to address his own emotional issues and distorted world view. Reality is a scary thing for most to confront, particularly when living many years in the warm comfort of delusion.

Paul Markham · 02-17-2012, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

We know who built the Great Pyramid: the pharaoh Khufu, who ruled Egypt about 2547-2524 B.C. And we know who supervised its construction: Khufu's brother, Hemienu. The pharaoh's right-hand man, Hemienu was "overseer of all construction projects of the king" and his tomb is one of the largest in a cemetery adjacent to the pyramid.

http://www.touregypt.net/featurestories/imhotep.htm

http://www.archaeology.org/0705/etc/pyramid.html

If you look at the early attempts to build pyramids and the state of them, you quickly realise aliens were not involved.

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Friends, this post is GOLD, even if posted by Markham. Finally someone who understand the basics of space travel

I watch National Geographic a little more than some here. I understand nothing, never will, never have and never could.

TheSquealer · 02-17-2012, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by porno jew

you always say that but in reality those "comfortable" with authority and conformity usually have the most stupid world views and are generally shallow and retarded.

there is a huge difference between a free thinker and an uncritical gullible idiot.

most think they are the first when they are really the latter.

We are not talking about typical people - we are talking about someone that is masking mental illness with the misguided notion of being "enlightened"

JFK · 02-17-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by xholly

this guy for real?

NO, he's an Alien

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

We are not talking about typical people - we are talking about someone that is masking mental illness with the misguided notion of being "enlightened"

more like too much weed and too little brains. the internet is filled with them.

TheSquealer · 02-17-2012, 11:56 AM

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more like too much weed and too little brains. the internet is filled with them.

While both of those are most likely true, that doesn't account for enclosing ones self in a bubble of insane ideas, while summarily dismissing anyone who even questions those ideas as being a victim of that which he himself is not. That is indicative of problems that run quite a bit deeper.

These personalities always share the same common trait... demanding everyone else "open their eyes", while refusing to do the same.

There is also a big difference between healthy skepticism and asking questions and being totally delusional. Further, being "skeptical" of the presented or commonly accepted information, "not conforming" or "asking questions" require the immediate dismissal of any and all information that doesn't conform to what one has already determined to be the undeniable truth or fact, in spite of the complete lack of reasonable, tangible and debatable evidence to support such a conclusion.

TheSquealer · 02-17-2012, 12:12 PM

People make those decisions based on their understanding of the world around them at the time.

Sacrificing children as a question of right and wrong, is really a question of perspective, not objective/subjective reality. As is whether or not you live in a dictatorship or are simply in the care of a benevolent leader who gave you life, provides all for you and can take it away.

Suggesting that the masses have been often wrong and pointing out some obvious examples, doesn't make you anymore correct in your absurdity.

No one here to my knowledge has mentioned "the status quo" with the exception of you, who can't seem to stop as if its part of the discussion.

TheSquealer · 02-17-2012, 12:22 PM

Here is also a note on the idea of "other life forms" for the sane.

The idea of "other life" within the context of the mathematical probability of its existence, means "any form of life"

When you use incomplete math to estimate the total number of planets in the known universe which might be capable of sustaining life, that does not mean "life" as in "they are capable of intergalactic space travel". It means "any form of life" - i.e. most likely microbial at best.

For any form of life to evolve to that level of advancement where they are capable of traveling across galaxies, it also assumes a large number of mathematical impossibilities are overcome. I.e. that the planet didn't not suffer a catastrophic event during that period of evolution to destroy most life... that the life forms themselves were able to advance to the point of intergalactic travel without destroying themselves and so on and so forth.

The probability of life existing elsewhere in the universe might be a mathematical certainty. The probability of life from outside this solar system evolving to the point that they are capable of visiting this planet is incalculably small.

The odds they came here simply to show a bunch of gut eating savages how to move and align rocks.. uhmm.. you'd need to invent an entirely new form of math to account for how unlikely that is.

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MarkDeus · 02-17-2012, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

Oh yea, a little human in the corner of the galaxy is capable of understanding space travel

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Wisdom is knowing how LITTLE you know. We know NOTHING, only what the elite tell us.

I suspect that you are one of these people that believe that the moon is an hologram, right?

If I catch a microscopic glimpse of the possibility of maybe having a possible yes or vaguely positive answer to that question, I'm putting you on ignore.

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 12:43 PM

the moon is a mothership.

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 12:45 PM

justinsain · 02-17-2012, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

Well the truth hasn't been suppressed. They have dug up the bones and can see there were 1,000s of workers constructing the pyramids. During certain times of the year when they weren't needed on the farms. The skeletons show evidence of extreme labor.

So if these "Aliens" did it. Why did they need humans to tug the stones up the ramps?

This is repeated in all the structures you point at as evidence. The S. American structures, Stone Henge and others. There's huge evidence of the people living around these structures during the building of them. The early pyramids and the last ones, span a long period.

So the aliens hung around for 2,000 years, visited all those places you claim and left no evidence.

Amazing what you find on Wikipedia.

It has generally been accepted that the building of the Pyramids was done with human labor. Nobody thinks they watched as Aliens assembled it and gave the humans credit

What is debatable is how the humans at that time came up with the necessary technology to create and build the pyramids. Building the great Pyramids not only took an enormous amount of human labor it also required sophisticated techniques of architecture, engineering, surveying and celestial knowledge.

The Pyramid is much more than just a bunch of cut blocks of stone stacked one after the other until they reached the top. It required sophisticated engineering and pre planning to accomplish what they were able to do.

Even with today's construction tools and knowledge it would be an immense project to recreate a Pyramid in the same location. Even without our current day aids, the Egyptians were able to create one of the seven wonders of the world. Its a given that it was built on the backs of thousands of laborers. What is questionable is who was the leader, engineer, architect, foreman, surveyor and astronomer that provided the necessary guidance to build it.

Paul Markham · 02-17-2012, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyClips

You mean, life as YOU know it, not life as it actually exists. Again, there's the status quo coming right back at ya.

No one is saying aliens created the pyramids and whatnot, but its clearly obvious to anyone with more than one brain cell that they had some amazing technology back then and that the truth is being suppressed or we WOULD know how they were built.

What part of this don't you understand?

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Here is also a note on the idea of "other life forms" for the sane.

The idea of "other life" within the context of the mathematical probability of its existence, means "any form of life"

When you use incomplete math to estimate the total number of planets in the known universe which might be capable of sustaining life, that does not mean "life" as in "they are capable of intergalactic space travel". It means "any form of life" - i.e. most likely microbial at best.

For any form of life to evolve to that level of advancement where they are capable of traveling across galaxies, it also assumes a large number of mathematical impossibilities are overcome. I.e. that the planet didn't not suffer a catastrophic event during that period of evolution to destroy most life... that the life forms themselves were able to advance to the point of intergalactic travel without destroying themselves and so on and so forth.

The probability of life existing elsewhere in the universe might be a mathematical certainty. The probability of life from outside this solar system evolving to the point that they are capable of visiting this planet is incalculably small.

The odds they came here simply to show a bunch of gut eating savages how to move and align rocks.. uhmm.. you'd need to invent an entirely new form of math to account for how unlikely that is.

You've watched far too many episodes of Star Trek.

Fact. To create a "Death Star" would take the combined output of a planet hundreds of years. It's possible but not likely. To recreate the gravity, to match the Earth it would need to spin at a similar speed to the Earth.

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At the equator, the circumference of the Earth is 40070 kilometers, and the day is 24 hours long so the speed is 1670 kilometers/hour (1070 miles/hr).

I found it on a crackpot site. http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/ask/a10840.html

The fuel required to do this is enough, then the fuel to send it across the Universe. Forget Solar, it's too unpredictable.

Then we have the problem of traveling the vast distances involved. Go do some research yourself on these problems.

Then the problems when they get here. Heat, atmosphere, bugs, infections and diseases. Spaniards traveling to S. America killed more of the people there with a few simple viruses than they did with guns. Happened also with other indigenous people who came into contact with Europeans. And Visa Versa. Odds are they would die if they land here or/and humans would of died.

Then when the Aliens got here, they mated with monkeys to make Humans? Bullshit, evolution explains it. OK we have a few missing pieces of the jigsaw, that does not deny it's a jigsaw with pieces we have yet to find. We're finding pieces all the time.

Then as Squealer points out they taught the humans on Earth to put stones on top of each other. And left nothing behind.

And your lack of proof is the "Elite covering it up."

Are you a real person or like Gideon some idiot being paid to start stupid threads and make stupid pots to keep the post count up?

Prove to us, you're something in this business please and not a post booster.

Paul Markham · 02-17-2012, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

It has generally been accepted that the building of the Pyramids was done with human labor. Nobody thinks they watched as Aliens assembled it and gave the humans credit

What is debatable is how the humans at that time came up with the necessary technology to create and build the pyramids. Building the great Pyramids not only took an enormous amount of human labor it also required sophisticated techniques of architecture, engineering, surveying and celestial knowledge.

The Pyramid is much more than just a bunch of cut blocks of stone stacked one after the other until they reached the top. It required sophisticated engineering and pre planning to accomplish what they were able to do.

Even with today's construction tools and knowledge it would be an immense project to recreate a Pyramid in the same location. Even without our current day aids, the Egyptians were able to create one of the seven wonders of the world. Its a given that it was built on the backs of thousands of laborers. What is questionable is who was the leader, engineer, architect, foreman, surveyor and astronomer that provided the necessary guidance to build it.

Look at the earliest pyramids and progress one one by one to the last and it's all very clear how they progressed. Given your argument of superior knowledge they wouldn't of made so many bad ones and got progressively better as they learned by themselves how it should be done. As for knowledge of where stars were, look up into the night sky.

The names of the people you asked about are known, written on the walls of the pyramid interiors and often had their own impressive burial chamber. No where does it mention aliens.

The Egyptians weren't forced to do the work. They were sold a religious lie. The lie was that the leader was the one who would go first, because he was a God and this would ensure an afterlife for all the people of Egypt.

TheSquealer · 02-17-2012, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

Even with today's construction tools and knowledge it would be an immense project to recreate a Pyramid in the same location. Even without our current day aids, the Egyptians were able to create one of the seven wonders of the world. Its a given that it was built on the backs of thousands of laborers. What is questionable is who was the leader, engineer, architect, foreman, surveyor and astronomer that provided the necessary guidance to build it.

Lets also not forget that they were built by trial and error. There was also a lengthy evolutionary process in their design and construction. Whether you're talking about the pyramid types which evolved as their experience grew or the simple, undisputed fact that the first step pyramids all fared poorly and collapsed.

It's not like they woke up one day and on a whim decided to build the massive pyramids that still exist today.. they worked up to that over centuries of trial and error.

justinsain · 02-17-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Lets also not forget that they were built by trial and error. There was also a lengthy evolutionary process in their design and construction. Whether you're talking about the pyramid types which evolved as their experience grew or the simple, undisputed fact that the first step pyramids all fared poorly and collapsed.

It's not like they woke up one day and on a whim decided to build the massive pyramids that still exist today.. they worked up to that over centuries of trial and error.

I am unaware of centuries of trial and error so I cannot speak to that. However, it does appear like someone did get into the mix and show them how to make one correctly.

These are not crude structures. They are incredibly complex that required a level of sophistication to build that has today's greatest minds scratching their heads as to how they accomplished it. How they did it without power tools or machinery, trucks or cranes is only a part of it. The design and engineering is also impressive and seems far too sophisticated for civilization at that time.

I earned a paycheck as a Mason for over 25 years and have worked on job sites ranging from single family homes to high rise buildings. I've used transits to check elevation and I've guided cranes as we flew building materials into the floors of a high rise building. The heaviest single piece I laid as a mason was window sills in a government building that weighed 350 lbs a piece. A guy on a forklift would bring the sill over to the window and me and another Mason would have to lift it and set it in place and then make sure it was level. We placed those on all the windows of an eight story building. Knowing the work that took it blows my mind the amount of work it must have took for the Egyptians to get a block from the quarry to it's final resting place in the pyramid.

Its not just the physical labor though, its the knowledge it took to build the Great Pyramids that seems out of place and thats what has some people puzzled.

scarlettcontent · 02-17-2012, 04:09 PM

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papill0n · 02-17-2012, 04:36 PM

im just here for the meth

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 04:40 PM

because every culture is ethnocentric and believes every other culture besides themselves is primitive and stupid. no need to invoke space aliens.

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Originally Posted by justinsain

I am unaware of centuries of trial and error so I cannot speak to that. However, it does appear like someone did get into the mix and show them how to make one correctly.

These are not crude structures. They are incredibly complex that required a level of sophistication to build that has today's greatest minds scratching their heads as to how they accomplished it. How they did it without power tools or machinery, trucks or cranes is only a part of it. The design and engineering is also impressive and seems far too sophisticated for civilization at that time.

I earned a paycheck as a Mason for over 25 years and have worked on job sites ranging from single family homes to high rise buildings. I've used transits to check elevation and I've guided cranes as we flew building materials into the floors of a high rise building. The heaviest single piece I laid as a mason was window sills in a government building that weighed 350 lbs a piece. A guy on a forklift would bring the sill over to the window and me and another Mason would have to lift it and set it in place and then make sure it was level. We placed those on all the windows of an eight story building. Knowing the work that took it blows my mind the amount of work it must have took for the Egyptians to get a block from the quarry to it's final resting place in the pyramid.

Its not just the physical labor though, its the knowledge it took to build the Great Pyramids that seems out of place and thats what has some people puzzled.

Far-L · 02-17-2012, 04:48 PM

A lot of folks must've missed that school day they talked about mathmatics in ancient history... Guess the archimedian screw must've fallen off one of the space ships...

Egypt-shmeedgypt.

Much more sophisticated, well engineered, better masonry, etc. pyrmids were built in the Americas by the Aztecs and Mayans. And of course people can't believe human intelligence was behind those either...

imo, Terrence McKenna still has the only salient theory on alien intelligence space colonization by mushroom spores which are in fact capable of traveling through space and successfully re-entering an atmosphere... as he once said:

"As I understand the Crick theory of panspermia, it's a theory of how life spread through the universe. What I was suggesting -- and I don't believe it as strongly as you imply -- is that intelligence, not life, but intelligence may have come here in this spore-bearing life form. This is a more radical version of the panspermia theory of Crick and Ponampurama. In fact I think that theory will probably be vindicated. I think in a hundred years if people do biology they will think it quite silly that people once thought that spores could not be blown from one star system to another by cosmic radiation pressure. As far as the role of the psilocybin mushroom, or its relationship to us and to intelligence, this is something that we need to consider."

From a wiki on panspermia:

"Spores are another potential vector for transporting life through inhospitable and inimical environments, such as the depths of interstellar space.[31][32] Spores are produced as part of the normal life cycle of many plants, algae, fungi and some protozoans, and some bacteria produce endospores or cysts during times of stress. These structures may be highly resilient to ultraviolet and gamma radiation, desiccation, lysozyme, temperature, starvation and chemical disinfectants, while metabolically inactive. Spores germinate when favourable conditions are restored after exposure to conditions fatal to the parent organism. According to astrophysicist Dr. Steinn Sigurdsson, "There are viable bacterial spores that have been found that are 40 million years old on Earth - and we know they're very hardened to radiation."

Every time one of those so-called Ph.D (pile it higher and deeper) scientists on those shows says "We don't know but it's possible..." I want to throw a brick at the tv.

porno jew · 02-17-2012, 05:16 PM

the panspermia theory in psychdelic thought goes back farther as leary was a big exponent of it in the 70s. theory is becoming more and more accepted now, yes.

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Originally Posted by Far-L

A lot of folks must've missed that school day they talked about mathmatics in ancient history... Guess the archimedian screw must've fallen off one of the space ships...

Egypt-shmeedgypt.

Much more sophisticated, well engineered, better masonry, etc. pyrmids were built in the Americas by the Aztecs and Mayans. And of course people can't believe human intelligence was behind those either...

imo, Terrence McKenna still has the only salient theory on alien intelligence space colonization by mushroom spores which are in fact capable of traveling through space and successfully re-entering an atmosphere... as he once said:

"As I understand the Crick theory of panspermia, it's a theory of how life spread through the universe. What I was suggesting -- and I don't believe it as strongly as you imply -- is that intelligence, not life, but intelligence may have come here in this spore-bearing life form. This is a more radical version of the panspermia theory of Crick and Ponampurama. In fact I think that theory will probably be vindicated. I think in a hundred years if people do biology they will think it quite silly that people once thought that spores could not be blown from one star system to another by cosmic radiation pressure. As far as the role of the psilocybin mushroom, or its relationship to us and to intelligence, this is something that we need to consider."

From a wiki on panspermia:

"Spores are another potential vector for transporting life through inhospitable and inimical environments, such as the depths of interstellar space.[31][32] Spores are produced as part of the normal life cycle of many plants, algae, fungi and some protozoans, and some bacteria produce endospores or cysts during times of stress. These structures may be highly resilient to ultraviolet and gamma radiation, desiccation, lysozyme, temperature, starvation and chemical disinfectants, while metabolically inactive. Spores germinate when favourable conditions are restored after exposure to conditions fatal to the parent organism. According to astrophysicist Dr. Steinn Sigurdsson, "There are viable bacterial spores that have been found that are 40 million years old on Earth - and we know they're very hardened to radiation."

Every time one of those so-called Ph.D (pile it higher and deeper) scientists on those shows says "We don't know but it's possible..." I want to throw a brick at the tv.

AmeliaG · 02-17-2012, 06:28 PM

I like falling asleep to that show, very relaxing, but my part of Los Angeles does not get H2 yet, so I guess tonight is the last one for a while.

CyberHustler · 02-17-2012, 09:30 PM

I'm about to smoke a joint and post what the Aliens tell me to... brb

Jakez · 02-18-2012, 12:39 AM

Paul Markham has met his match with this guy, seriously. Let the games begin!

Jakez · 02-18-2012, 12:53 AM

Understand your point but think about what it would be like if all there really was to do all day was play with dirt and build things with it. They didn't have a million options on what to do with their free time or all of technology and other distractions wasting their life away like we do today. They had a lot of brain power focused on doing nothing but building a pyramid. Our brain power today is spread out across the tons of things that there are to do, none of which is building a giant pyramid of rocks.

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Originally Posted by justinsain

I am unaware of centuries of trial and error so I cannot speak to that. However, it does appear like someone did get into the mix and show them how to make one correctly.

These are not crude structures. They are incredibly complex that required a level of sophistication to build that has today's greatest minds scratching their heads as to how they accomplished it. How they did it without power tools or machinery, trucks or cranes is only a part of it. The design and engineering is also impressive and seems far too sophisticated for civilization at that time.

I earned a paycheck as a Mason for over 25 years and have worked on job sites ranging from single family homes to high rise buildings. I've used transits to check elevation and I've guided cranes as we flew building materials into the floors of a high rise building. The heaviest single piece I laid as a mason was window sills in a government building that weighed 350 lbs a piece. A guy on a forklift would bring the sill over to the window and me and another Mason would have to lift it and set it in place and then make sure it was level. We placed those on all the windows of an eight story building. Knowing the work that took it blows my mind the amount of work it must have took for the Egyptians to get a block from the quarry to it's final resting place in the pyramid.

Its not just the physical labor though, its the knowledge it took to build the Great Pyramids that seems out of place and thats what has some people puzzled.

LRS · 02-18-2012, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

So do any of you guys have some sort of evidence for all these crazy claims? Or is it all based on half assed shows on History Channel that are made to attract as much idiots as possible?

do you have any type of evidence claiming aliens don't exist? if no then shut up and stop being so arrogant.. you don't have proof that they DO exists and also you don't have proof that its all a hoax..

Paul Markham · 02-18-2012, 01:50 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

I am unaware of centuries of trial and error so I cannot speak to that. However, it does appear like someone did get into the mix and show them how to make one correctly.

These are not crude structures. They are incredibly complex that required a level of sophistication to build that has today's greatest minds scratching their heads as to how they accomplished it. How they did it without power tools or machinery, trucks or cranes is only a part of it. The design and engineering is also impressive and seems far too sophisticated for civilization at that time.

I earned a paycheck as a Mason for over 25 years and have worked on job sites ranging from single family homes to high rise buildings. I've used transits to check elevation and I've guided cranes as we flew building materials into the floors of a high rise building. The heaviest single piece I laid as a mason was window sills in a government building that weighed 350 lbs a piece. A guy on a forklift would bring the sill over to the window and me and another Mason would have to lift it and set it in place and then make sure it was level. We placed those on all the windows of an eight story building. Knowing the work that took it blows my mind the amount of work it must have took for the Egyptians to get a block from the quarry to it's final resting place in the pyramid.

Its not just the physical labor though, its the knowledge it took to build the Great Pyramids that seems out of place and thats what has some people puzzled.

So you don't know what you're talking about and at least admit it. Go to Google type in Pyramids and educate yourself.

You and a couple of guys lifted a big stone, imagine what 1,000s could achieve. The evidence of how they were built, the trial and error is all known and cataloged.

Aliens exist, the question is what life form are they. Then the extreme problems of traveling the Galaxy comes into play.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2012, 04:38 AM

The problem is peoples thinking has been tainted by Hollywood and TV for years and before them the bible. Forget all that and research how we got from a steaming ball of gas to where we are today.

The evolution is a bit of theory and a lot of facts. Like a book a missing page or 2 doesn't make the story wrong.

Billions of years ago the Earth started it's long evolution, then in very recent times compared to the length of time. growths started to appear, then single cell organisms, then multiple cell organisms and it grew to a point where the were fish. Then some decided to walk on the land, some kept going onto the land and some didn't. Some even returned to the sea.

And to cut a very long story short we ended up with dinosaurs. Which were in decline but evolved into birds. Then small shrew like mammals evolved into the array of mammals we have today, not the complete array as humans took to using the same process to create many animals we think of as natural today.

And so it goes on. The deciding factor was always the environment. People living in a land that was plentiful often took a different path to those who were in a land where survival was a problem. Africans are often dark skinned, because of the sun, people from other parts a re light skinned because of the sun.

To assume that this process happened on worlds we have not yet found in a similar way to produce a life form that adapted to their environment, then mastered the huge problems of flying across the vast expanse of space with all it's problems. To teach people to put one block on top of another is about the most stupid thing I heard today and trust me I just heard something very stupid.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 05:04 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

I am unaware of centuries of trial and error so I cannot speak to that. However, it does appear like someone did get into the mix and show them how to make one correctly.

No, it didn't. That's what Paul just explained to you. And instead of looking it up yourself you admit being clueless about it so it must be aliens who showed them how to do it.
You realize how stupid you sound with just that 1 sentence. And that sentence also clearly shows the problem with the nutjobs here.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by LRS

do you have any type of evidence claiming aliens don't exist? if no then shut up and stop being so arrogant.. you don't have proof that they DO exists and also you don't have proof that its all a hoax..

Wait? So people can come up with the craziest claims and i have to prove it's not true? Are you fucking kidding me?

You are a pedo. Prove to me it isn't true.

justinsain · 02-18-2012, 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakez

Understand your point but think about what it would be like if all there really was to do all day was play with dirt and build things with it. They didn't have a million options on what to do with their free time or all of technology and other distractions wasting their life away like we do today. They had a lot of brain power focused on doing nothing but building a pyramid. Our brain power today is spread out across the tons of things that there are to do, none of which is building a giant pyramid of rocks.

What is puzzling is how far advanced that civilization was compared to ones before it and after it.

On the first page of this thread is a YT video and the cover pic is of a little artifact from that time. Some scientists created a much larger one built to exact scale and put it in a wind tunnel where it was able to fly. Two things stand out. One, it has a " rudder " just like on a plane but no planes existed at that time and no birds have a rudder or anything similar. Second, the " wing " had a foil shape to it which is instrumental in giving the object lift which enables it to fly.

Those two elements are essential to fly and that little artifact contained everything needed to fly except a power source. Who ever made that knew what it takes to fly. However, it wasn't until the Wright Brothers took that first flight did man make a serious attempt at flying.

So man didn't know how to fly. Then the Egyptians knew how to fly. Then man didn't know how to fly. Then a thousand plus years later man knows how to fly again.

TheSquealer · 02-18-2012, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

Two things stand out. One, it has a " rudder " just like on a plane but no planes existed at that time and no birds have a rudder or anything similar. Second, the " wing " had a foil shape to it which is instrumental in giving the object lift which enables it to fly.

Again...

1) the profile of a wing which causes lift, is the same in every single bird on the planet. to dismiss the notion that they were surrounded by endless examples, is bordering on insane.

2) a vertical stabilizer and rudder are not not essential for flight.

3) the artifacts which you are referencing are not from Egypt

xholly · 02-18-2012, 09:32 AM

Egyptians and the ancients were very advanced. Like the Antikythera mechanism(not egyptian i think but cool), the worlds first complicated scientific calculator invented before christ.

The world could be a very different place if it wasn't for certain key points in history when so much knowledge was lost.

The sack of the library of Alexandria (possibly the greatest loss of archived human knowledge in history)

Then the dark ages where religion ruled and science was suppressed. (been a long slow journey to shake this one and we are still not there yet but fortunately science has more authority today)

the ancients were very smart and had some cool stuff, much of it lost forever otherwise who knows where we would be now.

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Originally Posted by justinsain

What is puzzling is how far advanced that civilization was compared to ones before it and after it.

On the first page of this thread is a YT video and the cover pic is of a little artifact from that time. Some scientists created a much larger one built to exact scale and put it in a wind tunnel where it was able to fly. Two things stand out. One, it has a " rudder " just like on a plane but no planes existed at that time and no birds have a rudder or anything similar. Second, the " wing " had a foil shape to it which is instrumental in giving the object lift which enables it to fly.

Those two elements are essential to fly and that little artifact contained everything needed to fly except a power source. Who ever made that knew what it takes to fly. However, it wasn't until the Wright Brothers took that first flight did man make a serious attempt at flying.

So man didn't know how to fly. Then the Egyptians knew how to fly. Then man didn't know how to fly. Then a thousand plus years later man knows how to fly again.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2012, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

What is puzzling is how far advanced that civilization was compared to ones before it and after it.

On the first page of this thread is a YT video and the cover pic is of a little artifact from that time. Some scientists created a much larger one built to exact scale and put it in a wind tunnel where it was able to fly. Two things stand out. One, it has a " rudder " just like on a plane but no planes existed at that time and no birds have a rudder or anything similar. Second, the " wing " had a foil shape to it which is instrumental in giving the object lift which enables it to fly.

Those two elements are essential to fly and that little artifact contained everything needed to fly except a power source. Who ever made that knew what it takes to fly. However, it wasn't until the Wright Brothers took that first flight did man make a serious attempt at flying.

So man didn't know how to fly. Then the Egyptians knew how to fly. Then man didn't know how to fly. Then a thousand plus years later man knows how to fly again.

No puzzle at all. They weren't that advanced. Did they build one of these machines or even build a wheeled cart?

They produced some beautiful crude gold artifacts and that's your pointer to Aliens?

Go do more research on these people. The video clip is crazy the moment is starts saying the pyramids were evidence of aliens. They are not, in fact evidence of what a society with an abundance of food can do in it's spare time given enough people and enough tries.

We couldn't build the Great Wall of China today. Because of labor laws. No other bloody reason, same goes for pyramids or great cathedrals built by people living in mud and thatch huts.

Nembrionic · 02-18-2012, 09:37 AM

By the way, people forget that there have been pyramids well before the Egyptian ones.

justinsain · 02-18-2012, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSquealer

Again...

1) the profile of a wing which causes lift, is the same in every single bird on the planet. to dismiss the notion that they were surrounded by endless examples, is bordering on insane.

2) a vertical stabilizer and rudder are not not essential for flight.

3) the artifacts which you are referencing are not from Egypt

1) The point about the foil shape was that its essential to create lift in order for the object to fly. It is key to knowing what it takes to fly and that object proved they had that knowledge. I did not say they didn't have a way of figuring that out by looking at birds because they could.

2) Yes, planes like the B-2 Bomber can fly without such but wouldn't it be safe to say that the overwhelming majority of all planes posses some sort of rudder or vertical stabilizer. I did say nothing occurs naturally, like the birds for the foil shape inspiration, to inspire them for the rudder idea. That is something they would've had to figure out through design.

3) I'm speaking from my mind and not running to Google so I can make a post. Whoever made the artifact is irrelevant to my point and I stand corrected.

Minte · 02-18-2012, 09:40 AM

I've watched some of the series, and how most of the things were done by ancients have real mechanical solutions. For instance, the massive blocks in Baalbek Lebanon. They are beyond the capacity of the Northup Grumman gantry crane in Newport News. I can see that by using small wedges and moving these stones inch by inch would get them to the required elevations. It took time and manpower. And the plains of Nazca, massive undertaking. But again with the right amount of planning and manpower. One episode that was fascinating was the carvings in Puma Punku, Bolivia. Amazing work. It shows what extreme skills people can develop when they have the time to do it.

What I am really curious about is why did the ancients select such difficult ways to do these things?

Paul Markham · 02-18-2012, 09:44 AM

One of the problems is we view these achievements with 21st century eyes.

Imagine you have 1,000s of people who will work for little more than food. Their lives are cheap, if one dies no one cares much, life was cheap in those times. If one gets his legs broken of back buckled, so what.

The leaders are telling the people we are Gods, not we are in touch with God like some do today. The people are brainwashed into the idea that their Gods need them to build this great monument to ensure his and their after life. What's more important, a life now or an afterlife?

Archimedes was a very brilliant mathematician and build some awesome machines, De Vinci knew how to fly, to build a tank and other things. That if he had the technology of today would have you all amazed. He couldn't build what he knew would work and wasn't in touch with Aliens.

We think just because these people lived 3000 years ago they were unable to figure things out that just took some good basic logic. You can watch a 2 year old construct a pyramid shape with Lego, is he in touch with Aliens?

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by justinsain

Then the Egyptians knew how to fly.

Proof please?

Nevermind, i know you don't have any.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LRS

do you have any type of evidence claiming aliens don't exist? if no then shut up and stop being so arrogant.. you don't have proof that they DO exists and also you don't have proof that its all a hoax..

You are a dirty fucking pedo. Proof us otherwise. If you can't then you simply are one.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 10:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Markham

They produced some beautiful crude gold artifacts and that's your pointer to Aliens?

It truly is amazing the stupidity of these people.

Paul Markham · 02-18-2012, 10:15 AM

Another flash of inspiration.

How many of the people putting these monuments down to Aliens have stood in the Parthenon, Coliseum, ruins in Rome, St Peters in the Vatican, St Pauls, Tower of London, Notre Dame, etc?

Many built with nothing more than rudimentary engineering, mathematics and a lot of human labor. Some not just very big but also very beautiful. Like the Pyramids of Egypt, S. America, the Great Wall of China they are evidence of mans achievements, ingenuity and skills. Not some Aliens visiting us over a period of 1,000s of years and leaving nothing behind.

Yes I have stood inside all those monuments.

LRS · 02-18-2012, 10:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Wait? So people can come up with the craziest claims and i have to prove it's not true? Are you fucking kidding me?

You are a pedo. Prove to me it isn't true.

you are so close minded that its just pathetic talking to you, who gives a shit if people believe there is live in other planets and that we are not alone.. this universe is so big no even humanity can see %0000.1 of it.. and you think we're the center of the universe.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by LRS

you are so close minded that its just pathetic talking to you, who gives a shit if people believe there is live in other planets and that we are not alone.. this universe is so big no even humanity can see %0000.1 of it.. and you think we're the center of the universe.

Listen pedo, maybe if you read my posts instead of crying like one of your little victims you should have seen that i believe there is life out there. It's highly unlikely there is not. You dumb fucking cunt. Fucking kiddy fucker.
You're a fucking pedo until you prove us otherwise.

LRS · 02-18-2012, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Dirty F

Listen pedo, maybe if you read my posts instead of crying like one of your little victims you should have seen that i believe there is life out there. It's highly unlikely there is not. You dumb fucking cunt. Fucking kiddy fucker.
You're a fucking pedo until you prove us otherwise.

your lack of intelligence prevents me from proving it.. come back in 18 years and ill prove it..

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LRS

your lack of intelligence prevents me from proving it.. come back in 18 years and ill prove it..

What? You can't prove it? So that means you must be a pedo right?
It's your own fucking logic so you can't deny that.

Nembrionic · 02-18-2012, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by LRS

you are so close minded that its just pathetic talking to you, who gives a shit if people believe there is live in other planets and that we are not alone.. this universe is so big no even humanity can see %0000.1 of it.. and you think we're the center of the universe.

Can we keep this clear? Can we establish that we are not debating wether alien life is present in the universe but rather if they built the pyramids etc.

We are not contending the existance of alien life.

Dirty F · 02-18-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Nembrionic

Can we keep this clear? Can we establish that we are not debating wether alien life is present in the universe but rather if they built the pyramids etc.

We are not contending the existance of alien life.

Yeah and the worst part is he is crying like a little bitch and calling me all kinds of things while i said i believe in alien life just a few pages back.
Fuck, i would feel stupid

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