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Old 02-05-2012, 01:46 AM   #51
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But you have to leave the country every three months? How hard is it to do this?

Also can you ship a car there?
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For me it's a nice place to live. But like everywhere in the world, it has its pros and cons.

I find the visa issue the only real hassle. It's easy to stay long term but you have to check in every 90 days on most visas and spend the day an immigration. Not a big deal but it's something I don't like doing.
Cant you just buy your citizienship ?
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But you have to leave the country every three months? How hard is it to do this?

Also can you ship a car there?
You don't have to leave the country if you work or have a retirement or edu visas.

Shipping a car to Thailand is hard. There's a 200% tax for a start. Most cars you see on the road are made domestically.
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Yes. But it's expensive.
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Yes. But it's expensive.
Incredibly expensive from what I hear.
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You don't have to leave the country if you work or have a retirement or edu visas.

Shipping a car to Thailand is hard. There's a 200% tax for a start. Most cars you see on the road are made domestically.
Thanks for the info, so if I don't have these then I can just fly or take a bus out of the the country every three months?

Where are some good places to do this?
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Interesting to see so many people here are familiar with Thailand. I guess I shouldn't be surprised... I lived in Bangkok and CM for a while, and visited most of Thailand over the years.

In Thailand, rent and basic food - most people's biggest expenses - are cheap. But everything else is expensive. It's a place you can live on the cheap if you don't do much, just sit around...

Thailand taxes imports very heavily and doesn't produce much on their own. So everything is imported and carries a super high price. A $20,000 car costs 40,000-50,000 in Thailand, for example. Pretty much all electronics, home goods/appliances, brand name clothing, foods like steak/lobster/crab/strawberries/etc, are more expensive in Thailand.

Visa rules are becoming more and more strict by the year. It is almost impossible to become a 'permanent resident'. If you are not on retirement visa, you are on a very volatile short chain of visa runs, or edu visas.

Working anything as a foreigner is very hard. There are many professions that are 'reserved' by law for Thais only.

So is owning land.

As a foreigner, you are mostly limited to hooking up with the dark-skinned, low-class women. Women from typical middle class are almost always off limits to foreigners.

It's OK place and lifestyle is OK too. It's a good place to burn money - very poor place to try to make money.

Vast majority of people's satisfaction with Thailand goes down the longer they stay here.
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And they are very nice too!

I guess it sounded more disparaging, but I meant it as sounding "limiting". At some point, uneducated, poor girls become less fun than they used to be. I wish it was easier to crack the middle class society in Thailand.
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Thanks for the info, so if I don't have these then I can just fly or take a bus out of the the country every three months?
they change this law a couple of years ago to get rid of long-stay tourists. if i remember all the details -- you can only get one 3-month tourist visa per year and you have to show good reason - like visiting family or work. tourist visas are now stamped for 15 days, not 30 days, and you can only get 3 per 6-month period. border runs are a thing of the past. Thailand doesn't like foreigners, and they've made it harder to stay without legitimate reason.

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As a foreigner, you are mostly limited to hooking up with the dark-skinned, low-class women. Women from typical middle class are almost always off limits to foreigners.
nearly everything said by this guy is true. Thailand is not dirt cheap, although it is much cheaper than living in the US or EU. we pay more for cars, but we have 4 of them because we pay less for everything else. like our 3300 sq/foot house that was $70k. our $200 a month electric bill even tho we A/C the whole house 24/7/365. our 2 live-in nannies that cost $100 a month each. our housekeeper that costs less than $50 a month for 7 days of cleaning and cooking a week. and the list goes on.

the 'hooking up with low class women' is pretty much wrong. true, if you are a dirty, fat, old fucker that just comes to Thailand to fuck girls you couldn't get back home, then yea, you have to fuck bar girls. likewise if you are on holiday, you will be limited on the number of girls interested in you.

however if you are long-stay, or even meet/talk to a girl online and get to know her, nearly any available girl will talk to you. they all want to hit the lottery, and in Thailand, there's only one way to do that. you just have to make sure you know what you are doing and what you commit to. dont think with your dick or your heart, because most likely they are only thinking with their greed. one in a thousand has legitimate, honest intentions of finding love. you may just have to work a little harder to find her.

dont expect to fuck them on your first date and you wont be disappointed. Thai girls respect themselves more than the bitchy whores in the west. except the bar girls and lady boys of course. but that isn't real Thailand.
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How exactly do you use those toilet spray guns? And how do you dry yourself off without toilet paper? Thanks.
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1. point and shoot.
2. air dry.

Thailand is hot. your pants will dry in minutes.
i use the paper to dry. of course i only use sit down toilets. i dont squat..
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You and my mother in law would get on well.
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Old 02-13-2012, 03:52 PM   #65
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There is a diference between Tourist visas and those 30/15 days you get when you show up without a visa. If you do not have a visa most visitors from US/EU get a 30 day stamp when entering at an airport and 15 days if it is a land border so you have to leave Thailand in that period.

Tourist Visa which you get in the Thai embassy back home gives you 60 days and you can extend it for 1 more month at immigration without leaving Thailand.

Also i do not agree you can not get a middle class gf. If you can get one back home i am sure you can find one in Thailand. If you speak some Thai, dress nice and are polite and not fat and ugly you can for sure find a nice normal mid class girl. A nice income helps alot ;)
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Thanks for the info, so if I don't have these then I can just fly or take a bus out of the the country every three months?
You'll need to speak to your home countrys embassy to get the full details, ie in the UK we can get a triple entry tourist visa (which will total 9 months before needing to apply for further visas), but in holland they can only get a double entry - everywhere is different. You can also fly to places like malaysia where it takes around 1-2 days to process to get a 1 entry tourist visa for 60 days + 30 extension.

As far as i'm aware most countries don't limit you to 1 per year etc, but I do know of people being refused a tourist visa in places like malaysia and singapore as they have had too many in their passport - but, back in their home country it wasn't a problem to get the visa issued. There's always a way around things, but it is being made harder as time goes on, which ultimately makes more money for the dangerous boarder run buses and airlines, i'd rather give the money to the thai government, but it's the thai way!
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Also i do not agree you can not get a middle class gf. If you can get one back home i am sure you can find one in Thailand. If you speak some Thai, dress nice and are polite and not fat and ugly you can for sure find a nice normal mid class girl. A nice income helps alot ;)
lol yea i didnt realize how much of a difference it makes to dress politely. when i first got here i wore cargo shorts and tshirts all the time because its very hot. everybody smiled and was nice, but i didnt really get respect. now when i go into town i always wear a button-down shirt, pressed slacks, and nice shoes and i get respect and high wais everywhere.

Thais see polite dress as a form of respect. if you look like you are a dirty farang on vacation they will treat you like one. it amazes me how most of the farangs in our area dress to go out in public. no shower, dirty wife-beater tshirt, dirty shorts (usually board shorts/swim trunks), and cheap sandals. very few shave or care about their appearance. i look pretty sloppy around the house, but i always shave and shower to go out.

consequently, i get hit on everywhere i go.
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What sorta cost and is it easy enough to get?

Don't think I'd fancy having to take a day out every 30/90 days to do a visa run



Why not hit up neighboring countries like Cambodia/Vietnam or Laos for a change? Or is Asian culture rather similar in the region?

Anyone been to Vietnam? What's that like safety wise Vs Thailand

I watched a TV Show about Ho Chi Minh recently, couldn't believe it was in Vietnam! It was skyscraper city!
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lol yea i didnt realize how much of a difference it makes to dress politely. when i first got here i wore cargo shorts and tshirts all the time because its very hot. everybody smiled and was nice, but i didnt really get respect. now when i go into town i always wear a button-down shirt, pressed slacks, and nice shoes and i get respect and high wais everywhere.

Thais see polite dress as a form of respect. if you look like you are a dirty farang on vacation they will treat you like one. it amazes me how most of the farangs in our area dress to go out in public. no shower, dirty wife-beater tshirt, dirty shorts (usually board shorts/swim trunks), and cheap sandals. very few shave or care about their appearance. i look pretty sloppy around the house, but i always shave and shower to go out.

consequently, i get hit on everywhere i go.
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Had a couple of bombs go off today in Bangkok at Suk 71. Middle Eastern guys. One of them blew his own legs off. lol

Looks like the terror threat given from the US embassy was correct even though the Thais said it was false and was under control.

First thing you have to understand about staying here is, the Thais will lie to you about EVERYTHING in order to save face, regardless if it puts your life in danger or not. So accept that and don't expect a baby sitter, and all is good.
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I wish it was easier to crack the middle class society in Thailand.
I don't think it's impossible. It's just not easy unless you put in a lot of work. One of my best friends is a fucking mac. He nails so many light skinned, non-whore, middle class girls it's not funny. Buuuuuuut, he puts in a lot of work to get them.

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Interesting to see so many people here are familiar with Thailand. I guess I shouldn't be surprised... I lived in Bangkok and CM for a while, and visited most of Thailand over the years.

In Thailand, rent and basic food - most people's biggest expenses - are cheap. But everything else is expensive. It's a place you can live on the cheap if you don't do much, just sit around...

Thailand taxes imports very heavily and doesn't produce much on their own. So everything is imported and carries a super high price. A $20,000 car costs 40,000-50,000 in Thailand, for example. Pretty much all electronics, home goods/appliances, brand name clothing, foods like steak/lobster/crab/strawberries/etc, are more expensive in Thailand.

Visa rules are becoming more and more strict by the year. It is almost impossible to become a 'permanent resident'. If you are not on retirement visa, you are on a very volatile short chain of visa runs, or edu visas.

Working anything as a foreigner is very hard. There are many professions that are 'reserved' by law for Thais only.

So is owning land.

As a foreigner, you are mostly limited to hooking up with the dark-skinned, low-class women. Women from typical middle class are almost always off limits to foreigners.

It's OK place and lifestyle is OK too. It's a good place to burn money - very poor place to try to make money.

Vast majority of people's satisfaction with Thailand goes down the longer they stay here.
I agree with all of that except the limitation of being stuck with a dark skinned, low class girl. Those are what many guys choose (and I think dark skin is beautiful), but as I said above, if you put in the work, look decent, dress nice, and have the cash, you can get them. Many think it's too much work, and maybe it is, but if you want them, many are there for the taking. But for sex.... dark skin, low class feels just as good as white skin high class.

And personally, I find most of them to be lacking in the education department, even many who are graduates. However, I will say this. I'm not chasing anyone who is high maintenance or who will only be with me if I dress a certain way and spend lots of money. I'd just rather just game you, bareback you, and move on. Because that is ultimately what many of them are doing to us by wanting a guy with a lot of money.
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Had a couple of bombs go off today in Bangkok at Suk 71. Middle Eastern guys. One of them blew his own legs off. lol

Looks like the terror threat given from the US embassy was correct even though the Thais said it was false and was under control.

First thing you have to understand about staying here is, the Thais will lie to you about EVERYTHING in order to save face, regardless if it puts your life in danger or not. So accept that and don't expect a baby sitter, and all is good.
Normally Thais who set bombs off. Middle Eastern guys are easier to catch.
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just when you go out in the evening or also when you go to the 7/11?
ya i did SSS (shit/shower/shave) to go to the Macro grocery store today. i can count the number of times ive gone in public looking like a mess. its usually when i need something from the store while im working in the yard, or my wife tells me to go get something. then i will throw on a collared shirt with my shorts - and a thousand dollar watch lol.
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ya i did SSS (shit/shower/shave) to go to the Macro grocery store today. i can count the number of times ive gone in public looking like a mess. its usually when i need something from the store while im working in the yard, or my wife tells me to go get something. then i will throw on a collared shirt with my shorts - and a thousand dollar watch lol.
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It seems like the days of visa runs are numbered. It's getting harder and harder every season. A lot - most? - people seem to be using education visas these days.

Bangkok is a mega metropolis that doesn't feel third world at all. In fact, many parts of BKK feel swankier than even downtown NYC. The metro runs on time and public bathrooms at Terminal 21 are those swanky $1000 Japanese toilets with twenty buttons for sprays and massage. I'm not sure that even 5th Avenue matches Emporium and Paragon. That's what happens when you have a place where everything was constructed in the last 15-20 years - it all looks great. Whereas NYC looks like a dump with it's 100 yo crumbling infrastructure.
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