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Old 02-06-2003, 04:52 PM   #1
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ARS shaves or Ibill scrubs, which is it?

I want to know whether the Ibill visa fiasco is being used as a cover up for sophisticated shaving system?
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:54 PM   #2
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even if they did shave .. why in hell would they say so

I trust ARS more than iBill, if that means anything
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:54 PM   #3
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call up your mom, your dad, your sister, your cousin & your best friend, get them to signup under you & then cancel.....
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:55 PM   #4
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call up your mom, your dad, your sister, your cousin & your best friend, get them to signup under you & then cancel.....
Yeah, try that. I'll bet only 2 signups (at best) show up in your stats.
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:58 PM   #5
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ahahah,

MarcDe actually encouraged people to try that quite a few times.

Ibill sucks, I think that a give-in
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:58 PM   #6
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Well, you'd have to do multiple tests.

You'd have to try only having 1 person signup per day for 4-5 days, and then have 4-5 people signup in a single day.. For higher joins the skim might only be 1-5% .. but that's extra money for them anyways...

Btw, not stating this has any relevance to ARS.

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Old 02-06-2003, 05:01 PM   #7
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Ars converts just fine for me.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:03 PM   #8
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Ars converts just fine for me.
That's gotta be blind/exit/redirect traffic... DAMN! I though MY ARS conversions sucked.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:04 PM   #9
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I'm around 1:350 with ARS (over 2 years)

sure, some periods were 1:1000, but some were 1:200 ..
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:07 PM   #10
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I bet the sponsors that shave only shave people who have well below the average ratio.. that way there's no real way of knowing if shaving is going on...

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Old 02-06-2003, 05:08 PM   #11
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I'm around 1:350 with ARS (over 2 years)

sure, some periods were 1:1000, but some were 1:200 ..
Same here, for over 1 year i pushed allpetite...always between 1:200 and 1:1000 then suddenly BAM! stats went to shit. Changed ads, tried different sites, tried different traffic but nothing...Launched my own byot, one guy promoted it for a few weeks doing 1:200 and once again, it suddenly stopped. Result shown above.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:10 PM   #12
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That's gotta be blind/exit/redirect traffic... DAMN! I though MY ARS conversions sucked.
I never seen anything similar...only with ars.

And come on, i cant believe that out of 15k raw traffic not one single person bought a trial for www.petitegirlies.com . Even if its exit traffic.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:14 PM   #13
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Same here, for over 1 year i pushed allpetite...always between 1:200 and 1:1000 then suddenly BAM! stats went to shit. Changed ads, tried different sites, tried different traffic but nothing...Launched my own byot, one guy promoted it for a few weeks doing 1:200 and once again, it suddenly stopped. Result shown above.

what's frustrating in those situations is that we just can't explain what the hell is going on .. I guess that's why people think that there's shaving or scrubing everytime something like that happens
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:26 PM   #14
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Ars converts just fine for me.

Hello Battuss,

I have checked over your stats and I have noticed that the stats you have posted are not for a one week pay period. I looked back and here is what I found for the overall month of January.





As you can see you made 4 sales with 6 joins so the people that actually were interested in joining the site DID join the site. Also your traffic has been dropping off since around the 14th of January, when you made your last sale. You may want to start promoting your BYOT on your own instead of relying on other webmasters to make you money. If you would like to contact me about anything please email me at [email protected]
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:32 PM   #15
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I've been wodering for a while if iBill is scrubbing a lot harder. I used to get iBill joins on a couple of sponsor sites that used them as backup regular as clockwork ie normally several daily. These have all but vanished recently.

Anyone else noticed that or is it just the gods of porn getting pissed with me at the moment?
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