But Paul you have no idea what sells memberships having never sold any quanity yourself.

truly incredible

only paul markham could conclude that stats are a stab in the dark and you can get similar information from looking at a picture of a girl

is it any wonder this loser is broke and has 8 hours a day to post dribble

i tried in the past - i am not wasting my time, sorry

all i can say is that you have no idea what's going on - sorry to be so blunt

The examples you showed were who?

This isn't just me reading this it's others.

If a company relies on stats first, they are losing money. Because to see what works best you have to test different things. This is fine if your "tests" are based on knowledge of the product. Not fine if you have to rely on the returns of the stats to tell you what works best.

If you're right a lot of people are testing to see what works without prior knowledge, rather than testing good to see what works best.

Affiliates with very little invested can go this route, by giving away loads of free porn to see which free porn works best. Companies spending money to test, can't afford to get it wrong to often.

Maybe that's why your your previous examples didn't convince me. Giving the wrong explanation doesn't mean it has to be excepted.

Paul, do you have a car flower in your yard by any chance?

Please explain how you do it then.

I will explain.

Through innovative content, internet savvy, and a mind that knows how to pull it all together.

sorry, like i said, i am not wasting my time on this (and yet i am doing it again). you lost me already when you started again about top shooters, Steven Hicks and so on...

there will be some day when you realize that the number of people who get off to that stuff is about the same as people who have a foot fetish - it's a small niche - it's not relevant

i spoke to a friend this week - his site had one million members before he even realized how he did it. Manwin owns that site now.

you sound like someone who tries to describe a 5 by 5 meter painting with your nose pressed on the canvas.

and then you started about marketing and affiliates and traffic...

Funny isn't, you're there typing away behind a pc, same as me... yet, it is you with the sarcastic remarks & the 'O'hhhhh levels...

Come on, this doesn't take brains to realise that you are a dumb fuck that spent time in uni just because you're a dead beat & now you wanna come at me :1orglaugh :thumbsup

I love the trolling, you show intelligence :pimp

Oh, and its 'morons' :upsidedow


I agree with you though Roald!

Now we are at a position of justice :pimp

Yes, even uneducated, mentally handicapped people can buy PCs. What's your point?

Oh, and they aren't the same. You buy 150 quid PCs from ebay, I buy top of the range Macs.

Seriously, how the fuck did you get your EBAY account to be the number one hit on google for "arsewithclass"?

Lollington lol.

I don't even know what that means. I'm dumb because I have a degree and you aren't dumb because you have 4 CSEs and a swimming award?

OK.

To be fair, a jar of peanut butter looks clever next to you.

Yes. It's also you're. Bless you. I was referencing a very famous internet meme. Read up about it here. If you get stuck on any of the longer words, let me know.

http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/get-a-brain-morans

Thank you for agreeing with me. Knowledge above stats.

Beaner is making my point exactly. He obviously knows what's innovative and yet will still sell. He's Savvy about the Internet and has the intelligence to pull this knowledge together to then back up what he's doing with the stats he get. Can he see a site and form a good idea if it will convert, look at content and see if it will convert, look at a niche and see it will convert. Is this knowledge or does he need stats to tell him everything first?

Yes the blind can learn in the beginning how to see by stats. Always working that way is not the most profitable. The way to success is to learn and work on the knowledge gained.

Anyone doing it the other way around. Is stabbing in the dark. And losing money. Because stats need to be tested on different ways and picking those different ways has to be educated choices before stats show the results.

If anyone knows people who do it the other way around, I would love to know who.

OK I lost you when I talked about employing the top people in their fields.

The rest wasn't worth reading as you were lost on the basics. These sites with a million members couldn't afford to pay the top people. Or was it a free site?

I guess Paul forgot that Brazzers had a contest where members could pick new producers based on submissions.

Fabian doesn't need a pornographer to tell him what his members want when the members will tell him themselves.

Shap never shot content himself. Twistys got big because he listened to his members.

It's amazing that when I say the most obvious things. People will argue to say it's not true.

Will a consumer and lover of a product sell, create or promote better than a non lover of the product. Given that other skills are the same?

Will a company with the best skills and resources in the other areas, sell more with a creator, buyer or promoter who loves their product and has experience in it. Than using or employing someone who doesn't have any liking for the product or experience with it.

OK exactly what I was driving at.

Does Fabian need to know anything about porn to run a multi million dollar company? NO!

Does he need to employ people who do. If he wants to maximise the earnings of Manwin? YES!!!!!

So should Manwin employ pornographers? Make up your own minds.

Can a woman with no liking for porn make some sales? Yes.

Can a man with a love of porn make more sales, given other skills the same? Bloody well should do. Now you can twist that to your hearts content to make black white.

Can a person throw out so much free porn and turn 1-100 into 1-1,000 over time and swear he's doing it better and this is the nae of the game? Happens every day here. Adapt or die. :thumbsup

Shit. I never guessed Brazzers don't know already who is a good shooter or not and Shap doesn't know the difference between good and bad content. Thanks for putting me right.

Brazzers and Shap might disagree with you though. They might say, yes we did know it was still good to listen to members after putting up the content we knew they would like. Or "The competition was a great tool to market Brazzers and get some bro points." :1orglaugh

Can a dumb ass make a fool of himself? Epitome does it all the time. And will wait for his dumb ass reply.

You speak as if there is some monolithic pornographer and there isn't such an animal.

No there's not and I never said that. There are great pornographers, good, medium poor and awful thought. The worse have long gone. A few survive on price alone. Even traffic needs a good aiming to what converts.

Can a person with no idea what he's talking about post on GFY? theking does it all the time.

Can he last 34 years in the porn business? Not a hope in hell.

I entered the porn business when I was attending University in the mid nineties basically as a lark. I never had any intention to remain in the porn business. I sold my porn business years ago and when I sold the business it was making me around $300,000.00 annually. After I sold it I sold all of my business holdings and invested all monies in the market. I have not had a business for years.

BTW...my "pornographer" was a film student at the University.

Easy to type. Now prove it.

Or will it be "I don't have to prove.............................. blah blah blah"

Gary was pointing out the bloody obvious and you in replying backed him up. You have a degree, which I believe is in marketing. No doubt they taught you more than putting stats at the top of the list in guiding your marketing. They must of told you other things that were far more important. Like a "Call to action."

Stats are only a way to improve, they are not going to tell what's good and bad until tried, Unless the person testing knows, how does he know he's not replacing mediocre with awful and then diabolical and scratching his head why his stats are not telling him what's good?

Extreme, but it needs to be to illustrate the obvious. Even split testing tours. How do those testing know tour (A) is worse than tour (B) neither are as good as tour (C). Before they start wasting and losing money testing different tours. It can be done, but it's long winded and expensive unless you can test for free.

This is my entire point. And the lack of replies shows that people can't come up with anything but abuse.

I think it shows that you've reached the apex of stupidity and most would rather stab their eyes out with a rusty spoon than waste 5 seconds trying to teach you something you could never comprehend.

The lack of replies is due to the fact that the entire industry with the exception of a few other unintelligent lunatics, believes you are a total moron, your arguments are deeply flawed and the complete absence of even some semblance of cognitive reason in your "points" or "arguments" sends a pretty clear signal that little can be said to you that will lead to productive discussion or debate.

Even those that don't understand the words in your post realize this. :1orglaugh

A very weak reply. Sad that this is the best you can come up.

You obviously have no clue on the statistics for legs/feet fetish folk if you honestly believe that.

Accordingly to any number of polls from Playboy, FHM, to Maxim over the years the interest in the foot fetish/feet is anywhere from 30-70%. Most of those into feet are into legs as well if you take the numbers from them both it's on the high side. If you take feet alone, it's in the 30-40% range where people admit an interest. Regardless, even at 40%, that is hardly 'irrelevant'.

:2 cents:

indeed - i have no clue :1orglaugh

and i really mean that, i am not interested in feet at all, actually i am disgusted by deformed feet with hammer toes up to the point where it ruins the whole girl for me

but IF the interest would be that high, i would have thought there would be more sites/movies/magazins etc out there

hahaha

He's clueless and you're throwing out a number "30-70%" with a straight face. Why risk it
and just say its somewhere between 0% and 100% and be 100% correct.

He's a clue for you.... 30-70% of porn site members aren't begging for foot fetish content... 30-70% of search engine searches for porn, aren't searching for foot fetish content... 30-70% of porn sites aren't foot fetish porn sites... 30-70% of tube site videos aren't showing foot fetish content. etc etc etc etc.

Its a very small niche in porn. Just because you like it for whatever reason, doesn't mean its a big niche.