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theking · 02-05-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by wonton

Do you even know who Casper Weinberger and Zbigniew K. Brzezinski are? They DO represent the "other side" of the argument. They argue the government side. And what they argue simply confirms everything that I have posted, BECAUSE THEY ADMIT EVERYTHING IN BLACK AND WHITE.

Because of your lack of comprehension (please take a course in reading comprehenison), or maybe you may just be limited by your IQ level (if so a course in reading comprehension could still be helpful), you do not have the ability to understand what their arguements are and if they confirm everything that you have posted. I can assure you that they have not and would not confirm eveything that you have posted, it is just your lack of comprehension that leads you to believe that they confirm everything that you have posted.

wonton · 02-05-2003, 08:58 PM

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Originally posted by theking

Many of your "sources" are old news for those that pay attention to world events. Many of your "sources" have agendas and are intentionally skewing and spreading misinformation. Many of your "sources" have been rebutted.

Sweeping and generalized statements such as this do nothing to advance your point. This only proves that you have nothing to say to truly rebut anthing I have posted. Simply saying "your statements or sources have been rebutted" does not make those statements or sources rebutted. Where is your proof? Where are your arguments? I hope you are aware enough to make that distinction.

Imagine if in any debate party A details a strong a argument and and party B simply responds with "your statements have all been rebutted". Party B would be laughed out of the debating hall.

Fitting indeed. It is time for that handle change that I suggested earlier.

marty · 02-05-2003, 09:19 PM

What are people still arguing about?
Doesn't a world without the middle east make sense?

theking · 02-05-2003, 09:25 PM

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Originally posted by wonton

Sweeping and generalized statements such as this do nothing to advance your point. This only proves that you have nothing to say to truly rebut anthing I have posted. Simply saying "your statements or sources have been rebutted" does not make those statements or sources rebutted. Where is your proof? Where are your arguments? I hope you are aware enough to make that distinction.

Imagine if in any debate party A details a strong a argument and and party B simply responds with "your statements have all been rebutted". Party B would be laughed out of the debating hall.

Fitting indeed. It is time for that handle change that I suggested earlier.

My point is your comprehension level is low. I am not posting to debate you. I am not posting to educate you as I do not have the time nor the inclination. You can educate yourself with the "rest of the story" if you desire too, but you don't have an interest in doing that. You are either trolling or you are just not very bright. Personally I think that it is a combination of both.

gregtx · 02-05-2003, 09:43 PM

Of course this has to do with oil... Saudi Arabia is scared shitless...

y'all crack me up... you'll spend $1 plus on a bottle of water.. but I damn guarantee you would all be fuckin' up in arms if gasoline was $5 plus a gallon... you couldn't afford to drive your bling blings around ;-))

honestly... I think we should just pull the fuck out.. and protect our own boarders.. quit helping everyone else out... let them blow themselves up, let them starve.. let their land be taken away... everyone wants the US to police the world... but then no one wants to back the reprimands...

don't get me wrong i'm not for war... i'm for not spending my damn tax dollar on protecting every other country in the world just to get spit back on...

i'm done now...

Argoz · 02-05-2003, 10:03 PM

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Originally posted by Thrawn$
Bullshit, Colin powell is a fucker

TurboTrucker · 02-05-2003, 10:37 PM

Only thing I have to say to Iraq:

All your base are belong to us.

Ace-Ace · 02-05-2003, 10:43 PM

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Originally posted by gregtx
Of course this has to do with oil... Saudi Arabia is scared shitless...

y'all crack me up... you'll spend $1 plus on a bottle of water.. but I damn guarantee you would all be fuckin' up in arms if gasoline was $5 plus a gallon... you couldn't afford to drive your bling blings around ;-))

honestly... I think we should just pull the fuck out.. and protect our own boarders.. quit helping everyone else out... let them blow themselves up, let them starve.. let their land be taken away... everyone wants the US to police the world... but then no one wants to back the reprimands...

don't get me wrong i'm not for war... i'm for not spending my damn tax dollar on protecting every other country in the world just to get spit back on...

i'm done now...

So basically pull out of all international agreements and trades? Hate to break it to you...but the US has next to nothing as far as resources go. Most of our products and resources cme from over seas (both ways).

Ace-Ace · 02-06-2003, 09:53 AM

Here's my simple explanation for those who believe in all these conspiracy theories:

1) You have no mind thought of your own, so someone tells you about the 'real' way and you say "Hey, that sounds good!" so you go and believe some underground source (blah blah, we regurgitate news sources, say what you want).

2) You feel you've found something 'special' that nobody knows about, so you back it up wholeheartingly and sell yourself of every single thought they say.

ADL Colin · 02-06-2003, 10:03 AM

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Originally posted by Yo Adrian
I just posted this on another board but think it's totally relevant here as well...

Okay remember this? Bush Sr. told the Kurds in 1988 that if they stood up to defend themselves against Iraq that he would make sure we would be there to help them if they needed it.

Well they stood up against Iraq, they started getting killed off, pleaded with Bush for help and for some reason we never went over to help them as Bush had promised.

Dubya's dad is as much to blame for those killings as Sadaam.

You have a good point and I clearly remember what you are referring to.

However, to say that Bush is as much to blame as Saddam for what happened to the Kurds is preposterous. If I see someone getting mugged and don't jump in to help, I may not have made a noble decision but the mugger is more to blame than I.

ADL Colin · 02-06-2003, 10:04 AM

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Originally posted by Yo Adrian

You're against war because you could lose $35? lol

Funniest post of the day.

ADL Colin · 02-06-2003, 10:07 AM

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Originally posted by NoCarrier

You are the kind of idiotic septic people that won't believe anything even if we show you the facts. You read a couple of editorials and that makes you an international analyst.

Saddam Hussein would launch an attack with his WMD and you would still not believe it.

I usually respect everyone's opinion, and never try to use insults wich usually kills any arguments in a discussion, but you are truly an idiot.

ADL Colin · 02-06-2003, 10:12 AM

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Originally posted by wonton

Spend at least two solid years reading every book you can find on the CIA, NSA, Wall Street, the media and the military. Until you do that, you, like so many others, are just lemmings blindly following the leader and heading toward the cliff.

You consider yourself informed because you read the following?

"The CIA for Dummies"

"The Idiots Guide to the National Security Agency"

"How to Make One Million Dollars from your Home Business" (How's that working out by the way?)

"How to Form your own Militia in 30 days or Less"

"The News Media Conspiracy Guide"

Sad ...

SquarePants · 02-06-2003, 10:17 AM

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The vast majority of commercial pilots are former military men. The standard box cutter has a blade that is about two inches long. It does not even qualify as a weapon. If someone tried to mug you with a box cutter you would probably laugh in his face. That four guys armed with nothing more than box cutters could over power a flight crew, 100 passengers and two military-trained pilots is a big stretch. That they could do this in four separate incidents is the stuff of bad movies. Again, if this does not raise questions in your mind, then you maybe lacking one.

Really? So the plane that crashed in the field was what? Seems to me that the passengers took action.

Also maybe the hijackers had the "box cutters" at someones throat, and maybe the pilots had more compassion then the hijackers and felt they could hold off the attack. Very easy to judge and palyout your scenes without being there.

Ace-Ace · 02-06-2003, 01:50 PM

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Originally posted by wonton

The vast majority of commercial pilots are former military men. The standard box cutter has a blade that is about two inches long. It does not even qualify as a weapon. If someone tried to mug you with a box cutter you would probably laugh in his face. That four guys armed with nothing more than box cutters could over power a flight crew, 100 passengers and two military-trained pilots is a big stretch. That they could do this in four separate incidents is the stuff of bad movies. Again, if this does not raise questions in your mind, then you maybe lacking one.

Yet again, I don't know where to begin with your idiocy. First off, if I was the pilot of a plane (with another next to me) and we were both trained Navy Seals (I bet most have little to no military experience, perhaps boot camp - nothing to back this up, just what I'd assume), and four men had box cutters to my throat, I would give little resistance (especially since I didn't know what their intent was...perhaps they wanted us to land at another airbase so they could take one of the men on board hostage, a politician or a drug smuggler that owed them money, anything). I would comply 100% with these men, and hope for the best. I'm sure the other passengers on board had the same mentality.

The men on the flight that hit in the field knew the intention of the terrorists, thus taking action. Your unintelligence really bothers me...I hope there's not too many more people that think like you. Have fun being brainwashed by "Beginners Guide to Media Deception" (or any of the other books mentioned in the above post). You certainly are a master at international affairs by reading them!

02-05-2003, 09:43 PM	#205
gregtx Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Dallas, TX Posts: 1,929	Of course this has to do with oil... Saudi Arabia is scared shitless... y'all crack me up... you'll spend $1 plus on a bottle of water.. but I damn guarantee you would all be fuckin' up in arms if gasoline was $5 plus a gallon... you couldn't afford to drive your bling blings around ;-)) honestly... I think we should just pull the fuck out.. and protect our own boarders.. quit helping everyone else out... let them blow themselves up, let them starve.. let their land be taken away... everyone wants the US to police the world... but then no one wants to back the reprimands... don't get me wrong i'm not for war... i'm for not spending my damn tax dollar on protecting every other country in the world just to get spit back on... i'm done now... __________________ Processing Partners http://www.processingpartners.com

02-05-2003, 10:37 PM	#207
TurboTrucker Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Phoenix Arizona Posts: 2,363	Only thing I have to say to Iraq: All your base are belong to us. __________________

02-06-2003, 09:53 AM	#209
Ace-Ace Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Dayton, OH, USA Posts: 1,863	Here's my simple explanation for those who believe in all these conspiracy theories: 1) You have no mind thought of your own, so someone tells you about the 'real' way and you say "Hey, that sounds good!" so you go and believe some underground source (blah blah, we regurgitate news sources, say what you want). 2) You feel you've found something 'special' that nobody knows about, so you back it up wholeheartingly and sell yourself of every single thought they say. __________________ JamPlay.com - Online, video-based guitar lessons

02-05-2003, 09:19 PM	#203
marty Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,656	What are people still arguing about? Doesn't a world without the middle east make sense?