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Old 02-06-2003, 04:07 AM   #51
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Shoot her for me charly.
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:07 AM   #52
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get some video of her too like i was talking to you about in Vegas.
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Old 02-06-2003, 04:44 AM   #53
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Shoot her for me charly.
Done deal. will see if her English is good enough for what we were talking about. I think we have her in yout shirts.

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Old 02-06-2003, 04:56 AM   #54
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You are right.
Put up a thread about what will ensure the success of a site and they all say the same thing, "EXCLUSIVE" yet when it comes to spending money you would think exclusive sucks.

We have some of the best girls in the world here. We have Penthouse models to girl next door. Shooters are coming to Czech by the coach load because of the girls. Added to that we are pretty good shooters. We always reserve the right to not shoot the girl if she turns up unable to do the work well. Ensuring a good product.

For one client who buys 5 girls a month we have done a deal, five exclusive sets and videos of a single model, shot in a single day for $1,800 he cannot get enough and is always asking if we can do more. Another wants two, two girl videos and sets and again cannot get enough. Have yet to get a client on a regular basis for Boy Girl, we are expensive for that because we need to sell the set to the magazines to really make money. It is slow and expensive to shoot at this end.
Girl/Girl is the toughest and most expensive, i do get inquiries about it fairly regularly but both guys who shoot for me don't like shooting it. People think all these porn girls are bi, they ain't, they do it for the money, 'gay for pay' is what they call it, and both guys tell me that it is really hard to shoot the girls because they really don't know what they're doing. Easier to shoot hardcore boy/girl. Plus two girls costs more , guys make half or less than what another girl model does.

The client who buys the 5 solo girls a month for $1800 apiece - is that 5 photosets plus one video of each girl OR 5 photosets plus 5 short masturbation videos?

Maybe i sent you that guy, is he a fairly new client?

I was talking to one of my guys yesterday about sending him to Czech and Hungary for a month. But then we were talking and yeah there are lots of beautiful girls and they are cheaper than these girls we hire but then you add on having to expenses -flight, hotel, rent locations, probably have to pay some modelling agency something for the models - might not be worth it other than for the experience.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:06 AM   #55
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:22 AM   #56
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Girl/Girl is the toughest and most expensive, i do get inquiries about it fairly regularly but both guys who shoot for me don't like shooting it. People think all these porn girls are bi, they ain't, they do it for the money, 'gay for pay' is what they call it, and both guys tell me that it is really hard to shoot the girls because they really don't know what they're doing. Easier to shoot hardcore boy/girl. Plus two girls costs more , guys make half or less than what another girl model does.

The client who buys the 5 solo girls a month for $1800 apiece - is that 5 photosets plus 5 videos of each girl OR 5 photosets plus 5 short masturbation videos?

Maybe i sent you that guy, is he a fairly new client?

I was talking to one of my guys yesterday about sending him to Czech and Hungary for a month. But then we were talking and yeah there are lots of beautiful girls and they are cheaper than these girls we hire but then you add on having to expenses -flight, hotel, rent locations, probably have to pay some modelling agency something for the models - might not be worth it other than for the experience.
This should be going on in ICQ, but I think it's interesting and imformative for webmasters.

We like shooting girl-girl and we do not have a problem it here, the girls do it properly or they go home. We always reserve the right to cancel a shoot if the girl is not performing well.

Shooting Boy girl is no cheaper here, the problems with using a bad boy are terrible, he cannot get it up, he comes to soon, he's there for a fuck and is putting off the girl, he's not big enough, he's not good looking enough, he's not fit enough, he's just a jerk!!! Better to use a good professional boy and do the job right, than to mess around for the sake of a few $$$$.

Shooting any kind of duo/trio set slows you down. We can do 5 sets and videos on a day with solo, but only 3 when it's duo. We have more money to pay for the models so all this has to be calculated into the price.

The client wants 5 masturbation videos 15 minutes and a photoset ov 150 pics. Takes every girl we recommend to him, he's been with us for ages.

There are lots of problems about coming here to work, travel costs, language, finding a good supply of models is a very big problem. You have to be here or have someone you can trust working for you. The guy that comes once is usually turned over for the money. The first time I came here an agent showed me 5 girls on pictures who were drop dead gorgeous. We booked them for a casting. 3 plain girls turned up when we traveled here. It is only because of Eva that we are successful.

Hope this has been helpful to some of you.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:30 AM   #57
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:38 AM   #58
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ok it's the same guy. he disappeared on me, i think cuz i couldn't guarantee him the 5 videos with each girl.

I think Czech girls who do porn work and American girls who do porn work are very different. The reason I was hesistant and couldn't guarantee that guy 5 videos is not money, Brian told me it would be a disaster trying to get an L.A. porn girl to do five seperate masturbation videos in a day. They'd get up and leave and then tell their fellow porn working girl friends that working for Wanton sucked and that can hurt bad in that city. And you can't just always send the ones who don't behave well home there, they have big mouths. So it's sorta like walking on eggshells with some of them, trying to get them to do a good job but not pressuring them too much or asking them to do things they aren't capable of.

I have a customer who wants a certain type of video, there's dancing involved, the first two we did were disasters - both times the girls hated it, one broke down in tears. Can't have that so I told the customer we can't do them unfortunately, these girls aren't cut out for it. BUT i bet if they were on a set for VIVID VIDEO and they were asked to do the same thing they'd behave better. Internet photographers are the bottom of the food chain in the L.A. porn biz. Pisses me off because the money the girls get from Wanton is equal and usually more than what they'd get working a day for a major porn studio. But working for a major porn studio is glamourous, they get to be on a shiny box cover.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:48 AM   #59
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Again, thanks for the chat and the dinner.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:49 AM   #60
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:05 AM   #61
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The difference between Czech and US girls is there up bringing. This is a generalisation so girls do not flame me.

US girls are brought up in a way that makes them think because they are woman they are better than men. Look at your pre teen TV programs. I find US models in general very obstructive and masculine. They then get into a business where they are made to think they are important. Truth is they are totally disposable. Also the agents do not help.

Czech woman are more giving and open. They are also more feminine. We find that if it?s fun they are more likely to work better. Those who met me in Vegas may have had an opportunity to see my ?Crazy? side. This works well here, in the US the girls thinks she is better than me. Her loss.

Even girls that do a lot of work want to do their best and will give you all they can. However for the girls that think they are special because they can show their pussy to the camera, we explain the real world. J

Establish a reputation for paying the right amount and wanting the right work. They will also talk amongst themselves and mark you up as an easy touch. L

The man who pays the money is the boss.

All this come across in the work, guys find it hard to jerk off to a disinterested girl doing it for the money.
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Old 02-06-2003, 06:12 AM   #62
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Again, thanks for the chat and the dinner.
My pleasure.
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Give my love to Evie and the baby

That converstion still plays in my mind. Especially the bit about the differences in photography and pornpography.
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Give my love to Evie and the baby

That converstion still plays in my mind. Especially the bit about the differences in photography and pornpography.
I'm not sure if this is a compliment or not!!!!

I am going to put allof you out of your misery.

Her Dad is from Algeria. He was in France then he met her Mum. And the rest is a beautiful result.
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I'm not sure if this is a compliment or not!!!!

I am going to put allof you out of your misery.

Her Dad is from Algeria. He was in France then he met her Mum. And the rest is a beautiful result.
Aw crud, that's what I was gonna say!
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Of all the posts who was closest ?
I don't know. But if anyone got a bordering country to Algeria and her Father he wins.

Thats;
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Anyone get close.

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We get our Boy/Girl sets and video from a site called legalpictures.com all they do is custom stuff so no chance of it turning up on another site.
There charges are very good for a US company
If i remember correctly the provide 500 images and 30-40 mins of Mini DV for $1500.00 ( 1 boy 1 girl ) and the quality is extreamly good.
There are plenty of other companys out there just this is one we are happy with. Perhaps this will give some indication why you are not getting many sales of your Boy ? Girl stuff even though the quality looks very good !!
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We get our Boy/Girl sets and video from a site called legalpictures.com all they do is custom stuff so no chance of it turning up on another site.
There charges are very good for a US company
If i remember correctly the provide 500 images and 30-40 mins of Mini DV for $1500.00 ( 1 boy 1 girl ) and the quality is extreamly good.
There are plenty of other companys out there just this is one we are happy with. Perhaps this will give some indication why you are not getting many sales of your Boy ? Girl stuff even though the quality looks very good !!
too expensive (for superior quality, of course)
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Cindy you get 500 images and a guy/girl 30 minute fuck scene, totally exclusive they give you full rights to it all for $1500?

Can I see a sample of one of these shoots?

500 images of boy/girl or are some sets solo girl?
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We get our Boy/Girl sets and video from a site called legalpictures.com all they do is custom stuff so no chance of it turning up on another site.
There charges are very good for a US company
If i remember correctly the provide 500 images and 30-40 mins of Mini DV for $1500.00 ( 1 boy 1 girl ) and the quality is extreamly good.
There are plenty of other companys out there just this is one we are happy with. Perhaps this will give some indication why you are not getting many sales of your Boy ? Girl stuff even though the quality looks very good !!
Yes on boy/girl I think we might be a bit expensive, but on solo girl and two girl at our quality we think we are right.

We have three good clients who are happy to pay our rates, just need a couple more. Rather go for a the select rather than work our fingers to the bone for the many.

500 pics from one Boy Girl scene, must have a lot of near repeats and 40 minute video of the same couple. If the guy has not come in 20 minutes watching a scene, he will want the next or gone back to the football match. It's not about quantity, it's about hitting the right buttons.
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Looks like no winner this time though, even if I bend the rules.

ICQ me if I'm wrong.
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