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Old 11-19-2011, 06:35 PM   #101
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what part of everything you post usually has no sources, is made up or taken out of context don't you understand?

guess i can say the moon is actually a spaceship out of moral and ethical duty but does not mean it's true.
Not everything has a source (for obvious reasons), sometimes you've got to put the pieces together yourself
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Old 11-19-2011, 06:51 PM   #102
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you drunk or high right now?

Now, now...... that is not very nice. Mental illness is a serous disease and the sufferers deserve our sympathy and guidance...... even through they usually are irritating as fuck like our unfortunate friend wehateporn.
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Old 11-19-2011, 06:57 PM   #103
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Now, now...... that is not very nice. Mental illness is a serous disease and the sufferers deserve our sympathy and guidance...... even through they usually are irritating as fuck like our unfortunate friend wehateporn.
I understand that I post information that is not nice, most of us don't like to think about it including me, it will irritate people, but it's got to be done. I'd prefer someone else to be doing it but they're not, so the job's with me for now
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:04 PM   #104
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I understand that I post information that is not nice, most of us don't like to think about it including me, it will irritate people, but it's got to be done. I'd prefer someone else to be doing it but they're not, so the job's with me for now

That is exactly my point. To you the voices in your head are very real and you are just trying to do the right thing. That is why people should be sympathetic rather than condemning you.


Most people would not think it was right to mock a cancer victim but no one thinks twice about mocking the mentally ill. It is very sad actually.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:06 PM   #105
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That is exactly my point. To you the voices in your head are very real and you are just trying to do the right thing. That is why people should be sympathetic rather than condemning you.

Most people would not think it was right to mock a cancer victim but no one thinks twice about mocking the mentally ill. It is very sad actually.
Your kinds words are appreciated Mr Cykoe6
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:49 PM   #106
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Once you've spent enough time researching the agenda, you can quickly work these things out for yourself, you don't need to be looking stuff up, the majority of things that flash up in the news can be quickly understood. The first question we ask is "Why are they telling us this?" You no longer take news at face value. No one told me that Al J was Western controlled, but it's perfectly clear when you watch it. Maybe there is 'proof' out there, maybe not. Once one has a good grasp of the agenda (of the Bankers) you can quickly identify their fruits
I couldn't have said it better myself.

Once you learn the over-arching agenda of the elite, and how they pull ALL the strings in finance, politics, and the media, you can quickly see through almost everything that pops up in the news.

That is why I still follow the main stream news very closely. You can always tell where the elite are taking us next by what things they start (over)hyping in the media.

Problem, Reaction, Solution ...EVERY time!

Another thing people paying attention will notice, is the laws past in one Western country always seem to get passed in all other Western countries. It's all coordinated. It's all decided before hand. It's not hard to see. ..Some countries will run into snags passing laws dictated from the top (pesky democracy), but sooner or later they all arrive at the same place.
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Old 11-19-2011, 07:58 PM   #107
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how is one supposed to research and discover something that doesn't exist?

you never seem to grasp that.
It's all there in black and white.

For instance.. this little nugget from The Brookings Institute.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/fil...n_strategy.pdf
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:03 PM   #108
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It's all there in black and white.

For instance.. this little nugget from The Brookings Institute.

http://www.brookings.edu/~/media/fil...n_strategy.pdf
i was asking about sources to his claim al jazzera is controlled by the west. he had none. told me to research it myself. i asked him how can i research something that doesn't exist?

why am i not surprised you didn't read or try and understand me before you posted a reply?

critical thinking and reading comprehension is not your strong point.
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Your kinds words are appreciated Mr Cykoe6

No problem. Get well soon buddy.
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i was asking about sources to his claim al jazzera is controlled by the west. he had none. told me to research it myself. i asked him how can i research something that doesn't exist?

why am i not surprised you didn't read or try and understand me before you posted a reply?

critical thinking and reading comprehension is not your strong point.
Check out post #82

I was responding to that post.

You clearly quoted and then responded to wehateporn.

READ:

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Once you've spent enough time researching the agenda, you can quickly work these things out for yourself, you don't need to be looking stuff up, the majority of things that flash up in the news can be quickly understood. The first question we ask is "Why are they telling us this?" You no longer take news at face value. No one told me that Al J was Western controlled, but it's perfectly clear when you watch it. Maybe there is 'proof' out there, maybe not. Once one has a good grasp of the agenda (of the Bankers) you can quickly identify their fruits

how is one supposed to research and discover something that doesn't exist?

you never seem to grasp that.
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Old 11-19-2011, 08:20 PM   #111
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Check out post #82

I was responding to that post.

You clearly quoted and then responded to wehateporn.

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how is one supposed to research and discover something that doesn't exist?

you never seem to grasp that.
if you "discovering" things that aren't real you probably should turn off the computer and go see a doctor with your family or friends.
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Dec 1998: A Time magazine cover story entitled "The Hunt for Osama," reports that bin Laden may be planning his boldest move yet - a strike on Washington or possibly New York City. [Time, 12/21/98]

Late 1998-Early 2000: On at least three occasions, spies in Afghanistan report bin Laden's location. Each time, the president approves an attack. Each time, the CIA Director says the information is not reliable enough and the attack cannot go forward. [New York Times, 12/30/01, more]

Sept 1999: A US intelligence report states bin Laden and Al-Qaeda terrorists could crash an aircraft into the Pentagon. The Bush administration claims not to have heard of this report until May 2002, though it was widely shared within the government. [CNN, 5/18/02, AP, 5/18/02, Guardian, 5/19/02]

Jan 2000: George Bush Sr. meets with the bin Laden family on behalf of the Carlyle Group. He also met with them in 1998. Bush's chief of staff could not remember that this meeting took place until shown a thank you note confirming the meeting. [Wall Street Journal, 9/27/01, Guardian, 10/31/01]

Summer 2000: A secret military operation named Able Danger identifies four future 9/11 hijackers, including lead hijacker Mohamed Atta, as a potential threat and members of Al Qaeda. Yet none of this is mentioned later in the 9/11 Commissions' final report. When questioned, the 9/11 commission's chief spokesman initially says that staff members briefed about Able Danger did not remember hearing anything about Atta. Days later, however, after provided detailed information, he says the uniformed officer who briefed two staff members had indeed mentioned Atta. [New York Times, 8/11/05, more]

Sept 2000: The think-tank Project for the New American Century (PNAC) writes the blueprint for a global "Pax Americana." Written for the Bush team before the 2000 election, Rebuilding America's Defenses is a plan for maintaining global US preeminence and shaping the international security order in line with American principles and interests. The plan shows Bush intends to take control of the Persian Gulf whether or not Saddam Hussein is in power. It advocates the transformation of the US military. But, "the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event - like a new Pearl Harbour". [BBC, 2/14/07, Sunday Herald, 9/7/02, read report, more]

2000 - 2001: The military conducts exercises simulating what the White House later says is unimaginable: hijacked airliners used as weapons to crash into targets and cause mass casualties. One imagined target is the WTC. [USA Today, 4/19/04] Another is the Pentagon. [Military District of Washington (Army), 11/3/00]

Jan 2001: After the elections, US intelligence agencies are told to "back off" investigating the bin Ladens and Saudi royals. There have always been constraints on investigating Saudis. [BBC, 11/6/01, more]

Spring 2001: Military and government documents are released that seek to legitimize the use of US military force in the pursuit of oil. One article advocates presidential subterfuge in the promotion of conflict and "explicitly urge[s] painting over the US's actual reasons for warfare as a necessity for mobilizing public support for a conflict." [Sydney Morning Herald, 12/26/02, more]

May 2001: US security chiefs reject Sudan's offer to turn over voluminous files about bin Laden and al-Qaeda. Sudan has made this offer repeatedly since 1995. [Guardian, 9/30/01, more]
May 2001: The US introduces "Visa Express" program allowing any Saudi Arabian to obtain visas through their travel agent instead of appearing at a consulate in person. [US News and World Report, 12/12/01] Five hijackers use Visa Express to enter the US. [Congressional Intelligence Committee, 9/20/02]

May-Aug 2001: A number of the 9/11 hijackers make at least six trips to Las Vegas. These "fundamentalist" Muslims drink alcohol, frequent strip clubs, and smoke hashish. Some even have strippers perform lap dances for them. [San Francisco Chronicle, 10/4/01, Newsweek, 10/15/01]

June 13, 2001: Egyptian President Mubarak through his intelligence services warns the US that bin Laden's Islamic terrorist network is threatening to kill Bush and other G8 leaders at their July economic summit meeting in Italy. The terrorists plan to use a plane stuffed with explosives. [NY Times, 9/26/01]

June 28, 2001: CIA Director George J. Tenet has been "nearly frantic" with concern. A written intelligence summary for national security adviser Condoleezza Rice says: "It is highly likely that a significant al Qaeda attack is in the near future, within several weeks." Rice will later claim that everyone was taken by complete surprise by the 9/11 attack. By late summer, one senior political appointee says, Tenet had repeated this threat "so often that people got tired of hearing it." [Washington Post, 5/17/02]
July 10, 2001: A Phoenix FBI agent sends a memorandum warning about Middle Eastern men taking flight lessons. He suspects bin Laden's followers and recommends a national program to check visas of suspicious flight-school students. The memo is sent to two FBI counter-terrorism offices, but no action is taken. [New York Times, 5/21/02] Vice President Cheney says in May 2002 that he opposes releasing this memo to congressional leaders or to the media and public. [CNN, 5/20/02]

July 24, 2001: Larry Silverstein's $3.2 billion 99-year lease of the WTC is finalized. Silverstein hopes to win $7 billion in insurance from the destruction of the WTC towers. [NY Times, 02/16/03, Newsday, 09/25/02]

July 26, 2001: Attorney General Ashcroft stops flying commercial airlines due to a threat assessment. [CBS, 7/26/01] He later walks out of his office rather than answer questions about this. [AP, 5/16/02, more]

Late July 2001: The US and UN ignore warnings from the Taliban foreign minister that bin Laden is planning an imminent huge attack on US soil. The FBI and CIA also fail to take seriously warnings that Islamic fundamentalists have enrolled in flight schools across the US. [Independent, 9/7/02, more]

Summer 2001: Intelligence officials know that al Qaeda both hopes to use planes as weapons and seeks to strike a violent blow within the US, despite government claims following 9/11 that the World Trade Center and Pentagon attacks came "like bolts from the blue." [Wall Street Journal, 09/19/02, CNN, 9/12/02]

Summer 2001: Russian President Putin later says publicly that he ordered his intelligence agencies to alert the US of suicide pilots training for attacks on US targets. [Fox, 5/17/02]

Late summer 2001: Jordanian intelligence agents go to Washington to warn that a major attack is planned inside the US and that aircraft will be used. Christian Science Monitor calls the story "confidently authenticated" even though Jordan later backs away from it. [CS Monitor, 5/23/02]

Aug 5-11, 2001: Israel warns US of an imminent Al Qaeda attack. [Fox News, 5/17/02]

Aug 6, 2001: President Bush is warned by US intelligence that bin Laden might be planning to hijack commercial airliners. The White House waits eight months after 9/11 to reveal this fact. [New York Times, 5/16/02] Titled "Bin Ladin Determined To Strike in US," the intelligence briefing specifically mentions the World Trade Center. Yet Bush later states the briefing "said nothing about an attack on America." [CNN, 4/12/04, Washington Post, 4/12/04, White House, 4/11/04, CNN, 4/10/04, Intelligence Briefing, 8/6/01, more]

Aug 22, 2001: Top counter-terrorism expert John O'Neill quits the FBI due to repeated obstruction of his al-Qaeda investigations and a power play against him. He was the government's "most committed tracker of bin Laden and al-Qaeda." The next day he starts a new job as head of security at the WTC. He is killed weeks later in the World Trade Center during the 9/11 attack. [New Yorker, 1/14/02]

Aug 24, 2001: Frustrated with lack of response from FBI headquarters about detained suspect Moussaoui, the Minnesota FBI begins working with the CIA. The CIA sends alerts calling him a "suspect 747 airline suicide hijacker." Three days later an FBI Minnesota supervisor says he is trying to make sure that Moussaoui does not "take control of a plane and fly it into the World Trade Center." [Senate Intelligence Committee, 10/17/02] FBI headquarters chastises Minnesota FBI for notifying the CIA. [Time, 5/21/02] FBI Director Mueller will later say "there was nothing the agency could have done to anticipate and prevent the [9/11] attacks." [Senate Intelligence Committee, 9/18/02, more]

Sept 10, 2001: A particularly urgent warning may have been received the night before the attacks, causing some top Pentagon brass to cancel a trip. "Why that same information was not available to the 266 people who died aboard the four hijacked commercial aircraft may become a hot topic on the Hill." [Newsweek, 9/13/01] "A group of top Pentagon officials suddenly canceled travel plans for the next morning, apparently because of security concerns." [Newsweek, 9/24/01, more]

Sept 10, 2001: Former president Bush is with a brother of Osama bin Laden at a Carlyle business conference. The conference is interrupted the next day by the attacks. [Washington Post, 3/16/03]

Sept 10, 2001: Defense Secretary Rumsfeld announces that by some estimates the Department of Defense "cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions." CBS later calculates that 25% of the yearly defense budget is unaccounted for. A defense analyst says, "The books are cooked routinely year after year." [DOD, 9/10/01, CBS, 1/29/02] This announcement was buried by the next day's news of 9/11.
Only 4 or so of those stories were published pre-9/11. What a ginormous wave of propaganda!
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