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Old 11-12-2011, 05:40 PM   #101
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Laugh or cry, at least he gave credit to where credit was deserved. I never cared much for Bush, But at least he didn't act like this was all about him
and i dont give a shit about who personally killed Osama. but i give a shit about someone lying about WMDs, starting 2 wars, leaving 2 devastated countries that are worse off than before and claiming it a victory.

but i am sure in your eyes thats also Obamas fault somehow
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:40 PM   #102
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I stated the present condition of the US and present administration, if you have a problem with that, please tell me where I'm wrong, because Doc has been only giving me excuses like Obama does, people get a little tired of that
Since I know you SAW my post, I'll ask for it again...

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Old 11-12-2011, 05:42 PM   #103
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Another lame pointless twist...




Off topic.




You act as if he is blocking it and stopping it. You're just not happy he's not standing up and praising it, well not that you've heard at least.




Iraq was not a nato started conflict. His power is limited exactly how all Presidents powers are limited with war.





Lame very off topic twist... notice the article says nothing about regulations or obama's regulations making profits higher. Again, your opinion is not fact.




I never said it would work as they expected, I've always said I'm glad they did something and didn't care what they did. I want to 100% socialize all medical costs, exactly like Canada has it. I know it can work, I've seen it work, and I don't really care if you or anyone else doesn't like it, if it costs more or not, or whatever bullshit excuse you can think of - I 100% support it, without question.




Because your hate blinds you. It makes you twist the truth within your head so it matches the truth your hate created for you.
I show you facts and all you have is trhe bullshit card, okay, or that I hate Obama, well I do, but I haven't interjected opinion much here., too many facts you ignore.

You even ignored that the banks are doing great under the law that Obama put them under and that doesn't worry you?

I'm done, I spoke my peace, if you guys want to keep your blinders on and ignore whats going on, so be it.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:42 PM   #104
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and i dont give a shit about who personally killed Osama. but i give a shit about someone lying about WMDs, starting 2 wars, leaving 2 devastated countries that are worse off than before and claiming it a victory.

but i am sure in your eyes thats also Obamas fault somehow
When Obama gave that speech, HE had no idea who killed Bin Laden. I don't know if he even does now.
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and i dont give a shit about who personally killed Osama. but i give a shit about someone lying about WMDs, starting 2 wars, leaving 2 devastated countries that are worse off than before and claiming it a victory.

but i am sure in your eyes thats also Obamas fault somehow
I never liked any of the wars, but wait, you claim 2 countries, do you know how many we are in now?

So get your facts straight
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:46 PM   #106
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When Obama gave that speech, HE had no idea who killed Bin Laden. I don't know if he even does now.
So you don't that was kind of important? You know, knowing some of the facts?
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:46 PM   #107
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Obama made the healthcare system worse ..
How were you personally affected?
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:50 PM   #108
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Since I know you SAW my post, I'll ask for it again...
He got his stimulus package, the main goal, at least thats what we were promised was to save and create jobs, over 80% of the funds when to government spending and programs, read my first post before weighing in with a question.
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Old 11-12-2011, 05:50 PM   #109
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So you don't that was kind of important? You know, knowing some of the facts?
lol, I go back to my cancer analogy.

It was KEPT from him. They didn't tell. He didn't ask. You think he should have NAMED the guy that put a bullet through his brain so the entire Muslim world could put out a bounty on his head? Are you serious?
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He got his stimulus package, the main goal, at least thats what we were promised was to save and create jobs, over 80% of the funds when to government spending and programs, read my first post before weighing in with a question.
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How were you personally affected?
I'm lucky, I'm healthy
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lol, I go back to my cancer analogy.

It was KEPT from him. They didn't tell. He didn't ask. You think he should have NAMED the guy that put a bullet through his brain so the entire Muslim world could put out a bounty on his head? Are you serious?
a seal team would have been the right thing to say. But instead he gave credit for his actions
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Hey Troll, no replies?
it's obvious you don't even know what modern economic stimulus is and how it works. you are ridiculous.

it's like talking string theory with a retard. have no idea why people waste their time tbh.
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a seal team would have been the right thing to say. But instead he gave credit for his actions
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we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation


Did you miss that or conveniently ignore it? Or that doesn't satisfy you?

Not admitting something this silly only makes you look irrational and doesn't lend yourself or your party any credibility. People get a little tired of THAT.
The men who carried out this operation = A SEAL TEAM!

You're calling other people trolls? I hope for your sake that that's what you're doing here, because if you're not, you're just ignorant. If you're NOT ignorant, you're sure making yourself look it in here.

I'm now going to take my own advice to Doc because I'm tired of talking in circles.

"Conspiracy theorists don't have any answers, only questions."

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I'm lucky, I'm healthy
For how long ...
Do you have any private health insurance?
Who is going to be paying your bill?
You were in the Navy you say so the VA will pay -- How is that funded?
It's a Veteran's Benefit so who pays?
The taxpayer -- I don't begrudge the benefit.
But VA Medical coverage is an entitlement -- end of discussion ...
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it's obvious you don't even know what modern economic stimulus is and how it works. you are ridiculous.

it's like talking string theory with a retard. have no idea why people waste their time tbh.
please tell me how it's lowering the unemployment rate like it was promised to do, or are you too fucking retarded to know it's been above 9% since then?
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I never liked any of the wars, but wait, you claim 2 countries, do you know how many we are in now?

So get your facts straight
you know exactly what i am talking about, dont try to troll me
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For how long ...
Do you have any private health insurance?
Who is going to be paying your bill?
You were in the Navy you say so the VA will pay -- How is that funded?
It's a Veteran's Benefit so who pays?
The taxpayer -- I don't begrudge the benefit.
But VA Medical coverage is an entitlement -- end of discussion ...
I have private insurance, but if needed I could use the VA, never have.

So end of discussion, although I really don't understand what that had to do with anything
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please tell me how it's lowering the unemployment rate like it was promised to do, or are you too fucking retarded to know it's been above 9% since then?
you don't even know basic definitions of words, theories. how can anyone argue anything with you? what you think very basic words mean is incorrect. that's why any debate with you is retarded. you are very very dumb.
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you know exactly what i am talking about, dont try to troll me
I thought I made it clear,I didn't like the wars, I remembered what happened to the USSR when they tried it, you didn't like that Bush went to war with two countries, people got pissed, first, the people voted in the democrats in response to their objections to the wars ion 2006, then they elected a president that promised to sent more troops over there, which really didn't make sense to me. Pull out all the troops, we don't need to be there.

I love our military, but being in the middle east is stupid, I was there in 1980 and 1981 when Reagan took office.

Or are you hoping for something else?
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you don't even know basic definitions of words, theories. how can anyone argue anything with you? what you think very basic words mean is incorrect. that's why any debate with you is retarded. you are very very dumb.
Wow, you broke out the big words "very very dumb" LMAO



You're not even cogizant of the cretinous statments you seem to be making
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Wow, you broke out the big words "very very dumb" LMAO



You're not even cogizant of the cretinous statments you seem to making
And you simply ignore when you've been proven 100% wrong.
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The men who carried out this operation = A SEAL TEAM!

You're calling other people trolls? I hope for your sake that that's what you're doing here, because if you're not, you're just ignorant. If you're NOT ignorant, you're sure making yourself look it in here.

I'm now going to take my own advice to Doc because I'm tired of talking in circles.

"Conspiracy theorists don't have any answers, only questions."
But he didn't say seal team, could have been any other special forces by what he said, he gave to go to a small team, don't you think he would have known anything about the team, like what team?
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And you simply ignore when you've been proven 100% wrong.
Where was I proven wrong? Different opinions hardly make me wrong
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OK, This has been entertaining, but the Jacuzzi calls. Have a nice evening
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But he didn't say seal team, could have been any other special forces by what he said, he gave to go to a small team, don't you think he would have known anything about the team, like what team?
Thanks for taking the time to clarify that you're nothing more than an idiot troll...

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I seriously don't know why you waste your time Doc. Obama could wake up tomorrow with an irrefutable cure for all cancers and the Republican's would twist it somehow, not give him credit and even find blame.
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I show you facts and all you have is trhe bullshit card, okay, or that I hate Obama, well I do, but I haven't interjected opinion much here., too many facts you ignore.

You even ignored that the banks are doing great under the law that Obama put them under and that doesn't worry you?

I'm done, I spoke my peace, if you guys want to keep your blinders on and ignore whats going on, so be it.
I more than once debunked your facts... your twists I don't care about.

For your new question, the new law is not what worries me with banks, it has nothing to do with how well they are doing, so I have no reason to include such a false worry into my mentality.

Nobody is ignoring what is going on, pointing out your misguided opinions that you use to shape your own reality doe snot mean we're ignoring anything, but rather trying to open your eyes to the lies being told to you from the sources you use.
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OK, so who did he thank? List please
You ignoring of the facts being presented right in front of you has reached pathetic....



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"Tonight, we give thanks to the countless intelligence and counterterrorism professionals who've worked tirelessly to achieve this outcome. The American people do not see their work, nor know their names. But tonight, they feel the satisfaction of their work and the result of their pursuit of justice.

We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation, for they exemplify the professionalism, patriotism, and unparalleled courage of those who serve our country. And they are part of a generation that has borne the heaviest share of the burden since that September day.

Finally, let me say to the families who lost loved ones on 9/11 that we have never forgotten your loss, nor wavered in our commitment to see that we do whatever it takes to prevent another attack on our shores.
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Where was I proven wrong? Different opinions hardly make me wrong
You said he always blames others, which is false.

You said the GOP is trying to work with him, which is mostly false.

You said he wont work with the other side, which is mostly false.

You said he took credit for the operation, which is completely false.

You said he didn't thank anyone, which is false.


Another fact is most of your twists are opinions and not facts at all - overall you've been way the hell in left field in this post, prob more outside the ballpark... not really playing ball at all if you would.
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Thanks for taking the time to clarify that you're nothing more than an idiot troll...
Um,, I'm not a republican and when he does something right, I'll be the first to give thanx, until then must going to wait
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You said he always blames others, which is false.

You said the GOP is trying to work with him, which is mostly false.

You said he wont work with the other side, which is mostly false.

You said he took credit for the operation, which is completely false.

You said he didn't thank anyone, which is false.


Another fact is most of your twists are opinions and not facts at all - overall you've been way the hell in left field in this post, prob more outside the ballpark... not really playing ball at all if you would.
He did blamed others, how many speeches do you think he blamed the mess were in on the previous adminstration , even how much time later?

Never said the GOP tried to work with him.
He has only worked with the GOP when he didn't have a choice, inherently, he's on bad terms with them
A good leader would get past that, if your company had a manager that only worked well with half the crew, what would you do?

Using the term "I" so many times, whats the saying, no I in team, Didn't care for Bush, , but said we and our.

He thanked everyone except the ones that risked their lives

Ok, and what opionions are you talking about? Most are backed up with facts
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You ignoring of the facts being presented right in front of you has reached pathetic....
GEEBUS, where is the name of the group that did it? How many times do I have to ask before you realize there isn't one there?
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Anyone else notice the check cashing timeframe, for the US treasury, has gone from 30-45 days out 3 years ago to less than 7 days now?
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I seriously don't know why you waste your time Doc. Obama could wake up tomorrow with an irrefutable cure for all cancers and the Republican's would twist it somehow, not give him credit and even find blame.

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He did blamed others, how many speeches do you think he blamed the mess were in on the previous adminstration , even how much time later?

Never said the GOP tried to work with him.
He has only worked with the GOP when he didn't have a choice, inherently, he's on bad terms with them
A good leader would get past that, if your company had a manager that only worked well with half the crew, what would you do?

Using the term "I" so many times, whats the saying, no I in team, Didn't care for Bush, , but said we and our.

He thanked everyone except the ones that risked their lives

Ok, and what opionions are you talking about? Most are backed up with facts

The mess we are in is the previous administrations fault... Obama should not blame himself for issues he didn't create.

He was on bad terms with them the moment he came into office. As the GOP said, they would rather see him fail, basically they aren't going to work with him, even if the Country already failed, they still wouldn't work with him.

He said I because it was proper to say. He didn't take credit using the word I, as you suggested.

He thanked the exact people. Again, he didn't thank them how you wanted, but he did thank them. Which you said he didn't do at all... again, your opinion was wrong.


Sorry, saying Obama wont work with the gop or always blames others, is an opinion, not fact - I don't even need to go into the rest.
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I love how people go on and on blaming Obama for the economy... What happened in 2008 was not the start of a regular recession which can take a year or two to get out of.. It was a world wide financial disaster.. That takes years to work you're way out of.. Anyone that thinks otherwise is just delusional.

And yes... Other countries rebounded more quickly.. But that's because they have a more sound financial system in place in the first place. To fix the US system will take a lot of changes which are near impossible given one party doesn't want to regulate etc and is pretty much responsible for what happened in the first place.

Obama isn't perfect... But then again, none of them ever are.
Bush inherited a balanced budget, low debts and a pretty good financial structure. Obama inherited a pile of shit. That's about to get bigger. The crisis in the Euro is about to hit the fan and the shit will fly everywhere.

The real problem isn't the leader. You can see the culprit by looking into the mirror and looking at the top money makers.

Simply put the US and some EU countries spend more than they earn. The citizens enjoy a standard of living based on debt. And now the banking crisis has revealed the problem of debt. Whether its your CC or your State/Country or you United States or European Union. You are going to have to adjust your standard of living.

Now will you vote for a man who stands up and tells you the hard truth that unless the country you live in manufactures and sells more overseas, buys in less from overseas, you have to take a 10% pay cut. And the odds of exporting more and importing less are very low and it will be slow?

Never blame the "Liberals" for the problems of today. Blame the people exporting jobs, importing cheap goods and lending trillions to countries that I wouldn't let buy a set of content on credit. You might find a lot of them vote "Republican".

Great for them, their wealth has increased, so they don't give a flying fuck. When the house of cards collapses they will be sitting on a beach in the Bahamas, drinking ice cool cocktails with a naked nude native lady pouring it down their throats. While you get your power cut off.

Why do you think the price of Gold and precious commodities has risen?
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Goldman Sachs controls the commodities market...
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And Goldman Sachs is run by Democrats or Republicans. By people with money or people without money?

If no one buys, the price comes down, if loads buy, the price rises. Except if you think giving it away for free raises the value.
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The mess we are in is the previous administrations fault... Obama should not blame himself for issues he didn't create.

He was on bad terms with them the moment he came into office. As the GOP said, they would rather see him fail, basically they aren't going to work with him, even if the Country already failed, they still wouldn't work with him.

He said I because it was proper to say. He didn't take credit using the word I, as you suggested.

He thanked the exact people. Again, he didn't thank them how you wanted, but he did thank them. Which you said he didn't do at all... again, your opinion was wrong.


Sorry, saying Obama wont work with the gop or always blames others, is an opinion, not fact - I don't even need to go into the rest.
he mentions Leon Panetta, the CIA, our intelligence community, President Zardari, The Taliban and al Qaeda, why not what the name of the group that risked their lives?

Leadership has been described as the ?process of social influence in which one person can enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common task"
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he mentions Leon Panetta, the CIA, our intelligence community, President Zardari, The Taliban and al Qaeda, why not what the name of the group that risked their lives?

Leadership has been described as the “process of social influence in which one person can enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common task"
I really do not like myself for saying this to you...but you really should not make political posts...as your hatred of the President...has caused your judgment to become warped and pretty pathetic. I do not like seeing you being viewed as a joke per Paul Markham. If you actually believe the political statements you make...you would be much better off just keeping your political thoughts to yourself.

If you are just trolling...for your amusement...then carry on.

How is the daughter doing in University? How many credits has she acquired thus far?
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he mentions Leon Panetta, the CIA, our intelligence community, President Zardari, The Taliban and al Qaeda, why not what the name of the group that risked their lives?

Leadership has been described as the “process of social influence in which one person can enlist the aid and support of others in the accomplishment of a common task"
As many times as it was posted and reposted and you still ignore it... wow, just wow.

Here you go: "We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation"

AGAIN, you simply don't like what he said, but he did say it - your opinion was incorrect.


By your definition Obama is a leader then; others does not mean everyone.
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I really do not like myself for saying this to you...but you really should not make political posts...as your hatred of the President...has caused your judgment to become warped and pretty pathetic. I do not like seeing you being viewed as a joke per Paul Markham. If you actually believe the political statements you make...you would be much better off just keeping your political thoughts to yourself.

If you are just trolling...for your amusement...then carry on.

How is the daughter doing in University? How many credits has she acquired thus far?
So long as he's not viewed as a big a joke as you, then he has some way to go.

Still I find with a lot of Americans an ignorance of the real world. Especially when it comes to politics. The Republicans could put up an old man only because he was anti Bush, the previous incumbent and a woman whose a laughing stock, and they still nearly got enough votes to get in. Even though if that old man had a heart attack, the laughing stock would take hold of one of the most powerful positions in the World.

Well they voted for Bush another person who was clearly out of his depth.

I think Obama's work on trying to get America away from private medical is good. Yet not the way he did it. Increasing debts is bad. Cutting waste, like farming subsidies and some of the appropriations needs to be done. Yet he's still spending. The time has past when the US needs to be tightening it's belt. Not living on credit it can't afford.

The Democrats put up a black man, with an IQ way over the top of most middle Americans and he still got in. That shows the US has some hope.
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Goldman Sachs controls the commodities market...

http://www.cftc.gov/IndustryOversigh...mits/index.htm

They are supposed to be regulated in part by the Dodd-Frank Act. Maybe, substitute "strongly influenced" they may control "ownership" by the use of different entities both known and unknown; effectively circumventing any limits -- historically these limits have been selectively enforced ...

This is what the OWS and their mythical "1%" are about. However, these ideas cannot be condensed to a four word slogan. Probably few of them understand the concepts in the above and are able to articulate them.

The government (the administration, congress and the judiciary), do not want these things understood to well by the general public as this understanding would not be beneficial to the speculators (their political contributors?) -- the government might have to really enforce their own rules.
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I really do not like myself for saying this to you...but you really should not make political posts...as your hatred of the President...has caused your judgment to become warped and pretty pathetic. I do not like seeing you being viewed as a joke per Paul Markham. If you actually believe the political statements you make...you would be much better off just keeping your political thoughts to yourself.

If you are just trolling...for your amusement...then carry on.

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I have Paul on ignore.

The Doc is just pure fun, no matter what you tell him, he's got an excuse.

He says Obama named the people that got Osama in the speech, I just want clarification, what part of the military is "the Men"?

As for Obama, great ideas, bad execution. He got Obama care passed by the CBO based on savings that are disappearing with companies and Unions opting out of it. Where is this warped?

As the government grows with new regulations, like the patriot act that Bush created and Obama extended and now the supreme court just negated our 4th amendment rights if the police hear a toilet flush, I'm going to voice my concern while I still can.

But if you think everything is OK?
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As many times as it was posted and reposted and you still ignore it... wow, just wow.

Here you go: "We give thanks for the men who carried out this operation"

AGAIN, you simply don't like what he said, but he did say it - your opinion was incorrect.


By your definition Obama is a leader then; others does not mean everyone.
Which Men? They don't have names? Don't belong to a department, kind of vague don't you think?
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Obama is a US President. So naturally he's a piece of shit corporatist.
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