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HQ · 02-03-2003, 07:39 AM

My registrar is threatening to delete one of my domain names unless its WHOIS information is updated. My phone number and name are not correct (on purpose).

What is the deal with this anyway? Do I *really* have to give up all my personal information on each domain name I own?

What solutions exist for me to maintain my privacy?

BTW, I already know of http://alternativeidentity.com/ but that costs:

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The fee per domain name is US$10 per year per domain for the first twenty domain names, and US$2 per year per domain name for each additional domain name.
There is a service charge of US$3, plus postage each time we forward your mail; with no limit on pieces forwarded. U.S. mail forwarding customers must add a minimum US$15 mail forwarding deposit to cover fees and postage. International Mail Forwarding customers must add a minimum of US$25 mail forwarding deposit. Alternative Identity discards junk Spam for FREE and forwards legitimate email for FREE as well.)

JimmyReject · 02-03-2003, 07:41 AM

Just put your details up.

Unless your doing something illegal you have nothing to worry about.

HQ · 02-03-2003, 07:42 AM

I am not doing anything illegal. Never have and never will. But privacy is nice and I want it.

notjoe · 02-03-2003, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by HQ
My registrar is threatening to delete one of my domain names unless its WHOIS information is updated. My phone number and name are not correct (on purpose).

What is the deal with this anyway? Do I *really* have to give up all my personal information on each domain name I own?

What solutions exist for me to maintain my privacy?

BTW, I already know of http://alternativeidentity.com/ but that costs:

There are registars which provide proxy registrations for you. It uses all their info in the whois for like an extra 5/year or something like that.

notjoe · 02-03-2003, 07:43 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

There are registars which provide proxy registrations for you. It uses all their info in the whois for like an extra 5/year or something like that.

I forgot who does it but im sure someone here knows.

notjoe · 02-03-2003, 07:44 AM

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Originally posted by notjoe

I forgot who does it but im sure someone here knows.

Just try asking around!

Jaceem · 02-03-2003, 07:44 AM

Use a PO box. You will have to use your name, but really. Who cares? If you were famous enough to warrant your paranoia, you would probably have the money for alternativeidentity.com.

HQ · 02-03-2003, 07:44 AM

Thanks notjoe. Please, anyone who knows, let me know.

HQ · 02-03-2003, 07:47 AM

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Originally posted by Jace
Use a PO box. You will have to use your name, but really. Who cares? If you were famous enough to warrant your paranoia, you would probably have the money for alternativeidentity.com.

I want to see solutions without having to use a name or address linked to me for now. I like my privacy and I think I have a right to it.

And it's just a domain name that costs $15 per YEAR. This pisses me off.

notjoe · 02-03-2003, 07:48 AM

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Originally posted by HQ
Thanks notjoe. Please, anyone who knows, let me know.

If i am not mistaken i believe godaddy provides proxy registrations but i am not sure if you can convert your current domains over to it (i would think you could).`

chodadog · 02-03-2003, 07:49 AM

https://registrar.godaddy.com/dbp.as...cssid=6826 37

the indigo · 02-03-2003, 07:54 AM

Write your stuff then after they active the domains, change the infos... never had a problem.

boneprone · 02-03-2003, 07:55 AM

put down AaronM's address and phone.

He wont mind.

I do it.

HQ · 02-03-2003, 07:57 AM

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Originally posted by chodadog
https://registrar.godaddy.com/dbp.as...cssid=6826 37

$8.95/year + $9/year = $17.95/year, not bad.

http · 02-03-2003, 08:00 AM

Transfer all your domains to bulkregister.com

Brad Mitchell · 02-03-2003, 08:02 AM

Every registrar has a policy of populating your domain whois properly. I use Bulkregister and although they might not care at the moment, eventually they and everyone else will be enforcing it.

Brad

HQ · 02-03-2003, 08:04 AM

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Originally posted by boneprone
put down AaronM's address and phone.

He wont mind.

I do it.

...now you have me thinking!

HQ · 02-03-2003, 08:06 AM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Every registrar has a policy of populating your domain whois properly. I use Bulkregister and although they might not care at the moment, eventually they and everyone else will be enforcing it.

Brad

I agree, but I disagree with enforcing proper whois information. I don't post my name and address on my car for example, but if someone really wants to find out who owns it the license plate gives it away. Why should domain names be any different? If someone really wants to contact me then they can contact my host (who in turns forwards the information to me).

Brad Mitchell · 02-03-2003, 08:37 AM

Humm

Is your host getting paid to be your secretary?

Brad

HQ · 02-03-2003, 08:43 AM

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Originally posted by SinEmpire
Humm

Is your host getting paid to be your secretary?

Brad

No. But when APIC came after me they let me know! (I should say, some sites on my server were using some pics that they shouldn't have been way way back. I removed them immediately.)

Mike AI · 02-03-2003, 08:44 AM

Does not matter who you register with, Network Solutions, the people who oversee the entire databse for .com, .net ( I do not think .org anymore) require that there is accurate information.

Someone is making a complaint against you either to Network Soution, or your registrar - and your registrar has to follow up. So someone had to make an issue from this.... registrars do not just go around looking for violations. So there is a chance no matter where you go you will have the same issue.

I still think you can give information that is not your name or address, it just has to be "real information". So you can still do somethings, without violating the rules NetSol has set up.

HQ · 02-03-2003, 08:47 AM

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Originally posted by Mike AI
Does not matter who you register with, Network Solutions, the people who oversee the entire databse for .com, .net ( I do not think .org anymore) require that there is accurate information.

Someone is making a complaint against you either to Network Soution, or your registrar - and your registrar has to follow up. So someone had to make an issue from this.... registrars do not just go around looking for violations. So there is a chance no matter where you go you will have the same issue.

I still think you can give information that is not your name or address, it just has to be "real information". So you can still do somethings, without violating the rules NetSol has set up.

I think you are wrong in my situation. I was trying to transfer a single domain name (the only one in the account) and I was having problems with it. After throwing a few tickets back and forth they eventually sent me an email about the incorrect information. Perhaps the transfer itself (from Tucows) caused this incorrect information to be notice.

But what you say is correct 99% of the time.

Mike AI · 02-03-2003, 08:54 AM

Ahhhh could be someone is not happy you are moving, and trying to cause problems....

There are some simpletons out in the world.

Good luck.

Wizzo · 02-03-2003, 08:57 AM

PO Box is the only way to go....

HQ · 02-03-2003, 08:58 AM

Yup (replying to Mike AI).

And as the indigo has already stated, all I have to do is put in some info and change it after. Or even as you said, Mike AI, just put in fake information that looks real. It defeats the purpose of their actions but satisfies their requirements.

foolio · 02-03-2003, 10:17 AM

yup, use godaddy. They are the cheapest and the best. Pretty good combo if you ask me

HQ · 02-03-2003, 11:03 AM

BTW, my registrar is DirectNIC. Apparently they used Tucows as their registrar behind the scenes when I first started using them.

foolio · 02-03-2003, 11:11 AM

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Originally posted by HQ
BTW, my registrar is DirectNIC. Apparently they used Tucows as their registrar behind the scenes when I first started using them.

ya, fuck them. Godaddy.com is the only way to go. You can get your proxy to keep your stuff private for cheap. Transfer your stuff over.

Mike AI · 02-03-2003, 11:12 AM

HQ DirectNIC used TuCows originally until we got ICANN approved. ( Which has to be the toughest appovals to get in the world). Tucows wants to do anything it can to keep its domains that it has registered under it.

If you are having problems on DirectNIC's end, if you need help, let me know.....

HQ · 02-04-2003, 10:31 AM

Mike AI, I have no problems with DirectNIC, as you said these are problems with the people above DirectNIC. It is probably something to do with me transferring from Tucows to DirectNIC that opened up someone's eyes and saw the fake information.

BTW, does "AI" in your name have anything to do with http://www.alternativeidentity.com/ ?

TheRedZone · 02-04-2003, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by JimmyReject
...Unless your doing something illegal you have nothing to worry about.

That's just naive

p00p · 02-04-2003, 11:15 AM

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Originally posted by HQ

BTW, does "AI" in your name have anything to do with http://www.alternativeidentity.com/ ?

Amputate Your Head · 02-04-2003, 11:16 AM

I use boneprone's info on all mine.

Rip · 02-04-2003, 11:58 AM

The registrars are likely under a lot of pressure from law enforcement agencies to do this

It helps them track down the c/p operators and spammers who traditionally use a circle of ultra bogus information when registring their domains

if you cannot afford a mailbox and voicemail number, then you need not be registering domains

nofx · 02-04-2003, 12:09 PM

I never have any problems with DirectNIC, my domains all have the wrong whois info, been like that 2 years, no complaints

HQ · 02-04-2003, 12:12 PM

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Originally posted by p00p

Ask questions and you get answers.

HQ · 02-04-2003, 12:13 PM

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Originally posted by nofx
I never have any problems with DirectNIC, my domains all have the wrong whois info, been like that 2 years, no complaints

Me too, but this was a domain that had quite a few problems during transfer from one DirectNIC account (still in Tucows) to another DirectNIC account. I think that is why it came up.

asuna · 02-04-2003, 12:14 PM

put your cell phone #

CosmicKitten · 02-04-2003, 12:18 PM

Just get a po box and an 800 # service.

The wonderful thing is once you do this you get fucking assholes calling you trying to sell you shit. In my case a lame mainstream company was trying to harrass me about a newly registered domain name which had nothing to do with them.

http://reports.internic.net/cgi/rpt_whois/rpt.cgi

there's the link, report away fuckers.

02-03-2003, 07:44 AM	#7
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02-03-2003, 07:49 AM	#11
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02-03-2003, 07:55 AM	#13
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02-03-2003, 08:02 AM	#16
Brad Mitchell Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Southfield, MI Posts: 9,813	Every registrar has a policy of populating your domain whois properly. I use Bulkregister and although they might not care at the moment, eventually they and everyone else will be enforcing it. Brad __________________ President at MojoHost \| brad at mojohost dot com \| Skype MojoHostBrad 71 industry awards for hosting and professional excellence since 1999

02-03-2003, 08:37 AM	#19
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02-03-2003, 07:41 AM	#2
JimmyReject Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: London, England Posts: 489	Just put your details up. Unless your doing something illegal you have nothing to worry about.

02-03-2003, 07:42 AM	#3
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	I am not doing anything illegal. Never have and never will. But privacy is nice and I want it.

02-03-2003, 07:54 AM	#12
the indigo Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: North America Posts: 2,016	Write your stuff then after they active the domains, change the infos... never had a problem.

02-03-2003, 08:00 AM	#15
http Confirmed User Join Date: Oct 2001 Posts: 1,811	Transfer all your domains to bulkregister.com

02-03-2003, 08:44 AM	#21
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	Does not matter who you register with, Network Solutions, the people who oversee the entire databse for .com, .net ( I do not think .org anymore) require that there is accurate information. Someone is making a complaint against you either to Network Soution, or your registrar - and your registrar has to follow up. So someone had to make an issue from this.... registrars do not just go around looking for violations. So there is a chance no matter where you go you will have the same issue. I still think you can give information that is not your name or address, it just has to be "real information". So you can still do somethings, without violating the rules NetSol has set up.

02-03-2003, 08:54 AM	#23
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	Ahhhh could be someone is not happy you are moving, and trying to cause problems.... There are some simpletons out in the world. Good luck.

02-03-2003, 08:57 AM	#24
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02-03-2003, 08:58 AM	#25
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Yup (replying to Mike AI). And as the indigo has already stated, all I have to do is put in some info and change it after. Or even as you said, Mike AI, just put in fake information that looks real. It defeats the purpose of their actions but satisfies their requirements. Last edited by HQ; 02-03-2003 at 09:29 AM..

02-03-2003, 10:17 AM	#26
foolio ICQ: 178725656 Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Sunny San Diego Posts: 12,366	yup, use godaddy. They are the cheapest and the best. Pretty good combo if you ask me __________________

02-03-2003, 11:03 AM	#27
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	BTW, my registrar is DirectNIC. Apparently they used Tucows as their registrar behind the scenes when I first started using them.

02-03-2003, 11:12 AM	#29
Mike AI Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Elysian Fields Posts: 3,624	HQ DirectNIC used TuCows originally until we got ICANN approved. ( Which has to be the toughest appovals to get in the world). Tucows wants to do anything it can to keep its domains that it has registered under it. If you are having problems on DirectNIC's end, if you need help, let me know.....

02-04-2003, 10:31 AM	#30
HQ Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Posts: 3,539	Mike AI, I have no problems with DirectNIC, as you said these are problems with the people above DirectNIC. It is probably something to do with me transferring from Tucows to DirectNIC that opened up someone's eyes and saw the fake information. BTW, does "AI" in your name have anything to do with http://www.alternativeidentity.com/ ?

02-04-2003, 11:16 AM	#33
Amputate Your Head There can be only one Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Somewhere else Posts: 39,075	I use boneprone's info on all mine. __________________ SIG TOO BIG

02-04-2003, 11:58 AM	#34
Rip Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: somewheres wet Posts: 1,456	The registrars are likely under a lot of pressure from law enforcement agencies to do this It helps them track down the c/p operators and spammers who traditionally use a circle of ultra bogus information when registring their domains if you cannot afford a mailbox and voicemail number, then you need not be registering domains

02-04-2003, 12:09 PM	#35
nofx Too lazy to set a custom title Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Virgin Mary's womb Posts: 16,826	I never have any problems with DirectNIC, my domains all have the wrong whois info, been like that 2 years, no complaints __________________ Often times I wonder why There's love and hate, theres live or die. When sickness comes I must decide: When feelings go, theres suicide.

02-04-2003, 12:14 PM	#38
asuna Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Location: Montreal Posts: 8,743	put your cell phone # __________________

02-04-2003, 12:18 PM	#39
CosmicKitten Confirmed User Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 225	Just get a po box and an 800 # service. The wonderful thing is once you do this you get fucking assholes calling you trying to sell you shit. In my case a lame mainstream company was trying to harrass me about a newly registered domain name which had nothing to do with them. http://reports.internic.net/cgi/rpt_whois/rpt.cgi there's the link, report away fuckers.