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some of the biggest paysites now are softcore-ish nude art sites like x-art and ftv. it`s not gangbang teens.
the surfers who like those sites - and it is a fair amount - don`t like tasteless raunchy hardcore with cocks all over the place. |
So I just read Robbie's prior post about what he would do with PornHub.
He would make it the same as GayTube.com (which Fabian bought off Shap) and JustUsBoys.com, which is now owned by Intense Cash ... or RocketTube, which is still owned by the guys who founded JustUsBoys.com. Those sites are the largest gay affiliate sites. As far as I know, Fabian has no plans to change GayTube.com as that is a cash cow. Fabian now owns a site that does exactly what Robbie suggested for PornHub so Fabian certainly knows the potential. GayTube has been like that for years. Obviously both models are equally lucrative, just comes down to the path you choose to take. |
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@ Damian - you marketing genius you - pornbeer must be making you MILLIONS with all those 100+ view videos :thumbsup |
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http://upload.gaytube.com/submit/ still taking uploads and even if you were right (which your not) have you seen the difference between pornhub traffic and gaytube 's traffic there are hundreds of straight tube sites who would carve up the traffic of pornhub if you were stupid enough to do what robbie suggested you should do just like all the torrent sites that grew bigger when mininova decided to use the same stupid plan to go legit. just like file lockers that grew when rapidshare decided to buckle and go legit. it plain stupid to believe it would be any different this time. |
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and gay tube is currently the biggest gay porn site, despite other gay tubes that are filled with full length "user uploaded" content. working with sponsors did not hurt it's traffic or market share in the least. |
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I accept user uploads, too. 90% is affiliates uploading watermarked promo vids. The rest is mostly truly amateur stuff. That's why I never believed the hype about 40k full length videos being uploaded by users. Yeah, I don't have PornHub traffic, but %s should still be the same on any site. |
Oh and so we are not drawn into a debate, when I say 90% I am just trying to make a point.
We are averaging 200 uploads by users a day and very rarely do I see anything that isn't a promo or appears to be truly amateur. Due to safe harbor everything goes up but I still have an idea of what is. |
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It's one thing to to read the words or sit down in a classroom and study a subject. As a front line salesman in many fields. Some of that advice is absolute bottom level basic and some wrong. The first thing to do it identify If the prospective client has a problem you can solve. No point in trying to sell someone who needs a car a bus ticket. Unless you're a conman. A good opening question is vital in selling and should get a client talking about his business. After you researched his business. In selling media space it's easy. Look at his advertising. Spot something they also do and don't feature as a headline in their present advertising and get them to talk about that part of their business. The most important part of selling is to identify, understand and know your client, his needs and your product. If they don't match, then fix your product or find new clients. He's a failure and now telling me he can shoot, market and sell porn better than me. That's why he lives in a hovel. Ho chose to do a job he's bad at to earn less money. :1orglaugh |
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Trolling is one thing, but you can't just post lies. Or I could post some back about you, and I don't think you'd like that. Would you? |
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Maybe one day I can be as good as you at life? Do you do coaching? |
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And he offered you the chance to prove him wrong and you made excuses as why you couldn't. Saying you wanted $5000 in costs to shoot one scene. |
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Met-Art is softcore and they hit it very well. Missing it with low grade content isn't even going to start getting sales, unless you can find 100s of affiliates to waste time sending tons of traffic to a poorly performing site. Quote:
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Can you back up your current lie of damian saying Ancher's content was shit paul? Just quote him saying Ancher's content was shit, that'll do the job.
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I thought you had a clue. Guess not. |
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So this is yet another of paul's lies? But surely, if he lies about so many things, and gets caught red-handed so many fucking times, no-one can take *anything* he says as truth. You'd have to be some kind of coked up dribbler to believe anything paul says, no?
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http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damianroom.jpg Saddest thing about you is, you never realised it until I pointed it out. Then you started to find new locations. Still everyone will judge what you meant when starting this thread. Seems you got the ball back in your face, AGAIN!! |
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So I kinda think the ball is in your face. Whatever that fucking means. Anyway, I wouldn't start discussions about sitting rooms if I were you LOL! https://img.skitch.com/20110701-qeqc...teqsd985rg.jpg Does that look like you made millions? Or does it look like you are a lying pikey who likes cheap tat? 34 years at the top buys you that? Fuck me. LOL! And I found new locations because I MOVED! As you know. But you keep on lying if you like. Seriously, do you know the story about the boy who cried wolf? I hope nothing else ever bad happens in your life, as no one will believe you :( |
Sorry, Paul. The textures of the clothing/bedding, the pearlescent lip-liner, the mid-length dusty rose nails... It all screams 90s and it would need to be in a vintage niche at this point to convert.
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Ironic, Damian having to change something that doesn't work properly! Yet accuses me of not setting my tracking up right, yet it does, & always has worked properly with no issues :thumbsup |
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Still glamor is meant to be glamorous. |
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The shelves you keep posting with the LOL is a fail. They are filled with mementos of a happy life. Little things that I and also with Eva have collected over the years. That what you do in a home. Fill it with little things that mean more than money. http://paulmarkham.com/temp/jigsaw2.jpg Compared to your living room filled with meaningless rubbish. http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damianroom.jpg Sad little man. |
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Love this banana: https://img.skitch.com/20111024-c3x1...miap9ksj99.jpg And what self-respecting porn millionaire with 34 years at the top of his game doesn't proudly display one of these in his living room? https://img.skitch.com/20111024-mngh...52m5cdsuey.jpg Quote:
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every gay person in the world would know that as the defacto place go. you might want to look at the views for pornhub gay section before you spout off about successful gaytube is. http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63 compare the views from a gay subcatagory of pornhub against the main root views for gaytube. btw if you guys actually believed robbies idea would work why not buy pornhub and make the change, even if you paid out net present value at 20x income you would make a killing based on how "Successful" robbie claims he would be. if any of you guys did that you would lose all your investment because the users will just go to another site. |
what part of "the biggest gay site will only have a fraction of the biggest straight site due to demographics" don't you understand you fucking idiot? you can't compare gaytube and pornhub. fuck are you lacking in any sense of reality.
also gaytube is the biggest gay site there is, literally. why would they change their model? it obviously is a success that other gay site owners can only dream of. even sites that load their tubes will full length gay porn can't touch it. why aren't users leaving gaytube in droves them for full length pirate tubes? your theory sucks balls. Quote:
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do you understand how stupid your arguement about demographics is when you take that fact into account http://www.gaytube.com/categories&c=&lo=basic&s=mv&t=a (1,479,996) vs http://www.pornhub.com/video?o=mv&t=a&c=63 (2,135,063 ) porn hub gay section has more views then a DEDICATED GAY TUBE SITE who type in name is the defacto name for gay tube site the biggest gay site is smaller then the gay subsection of a generic porn site even when it views are artifically inflated because it got the world's best domain name for a gay tube site. |
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If yu had a family and not a lonely sad man, you would understand the monetary value of a memento is nothing compared to the sentimental value. The metal shelving in your living room, shows what a sad man you are. not seeing that keep sakes are about memories. Makes me feel sad for you. Quote:
Look at when I post to see how much time I spend online. You have to spend a lot longer than me tied to a keyboard. you have to make the rent. No answers you from Playboy, Hustler and Easydate. Maybe you were lying and they don't know you. |
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Equally, no answer from the Brno education authority when I emailed them asking if they knew you said that teachers have to have a will of iron to resist fucking the children in their class! :) xxx |
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Most people in this thread are fucking morons. Page two is two monkeys arguing over who flings the biggest pile of shit when everyone else is laughing at both of your poo flinging asses.
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ok gideon explain to my why gaytube is growing, not losing visitors and other gay tubes which have full ripped movies cannot match their size? why are people not leaving gaytube in drives for those sites?
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QUOTE=Paul Markham;18512115]Here's proof you're a loser who likes taunting people.
So a broke, loser who can't earn enough to furnish a living room nicely. The shelves you keep posting with the LOL is a fail. They are filled with mementos of a happy life. Little things that I and also with Eva have collected over the years. That what you do in a home. Fill it with little things that mean more than money. http://paulmarkham.com/temp/jigsaw2.jpg Compared to your living room filled with meaningless rubbish. http://paulmarkham.com/temp/damianroom.jpg Sad little man.[/QUOTE] Paul's Tshirt says "I run for life" (native speaker here) - of course its some charity but I think that posting in this thread gives that Tshirt another meaning :thumbsup Sry Paul I had to share :winkwink: |
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Still no reply from any of the people Damian says he does consulting work for. Either crap support or they are trying to figure out who Damian is. I see they all do split testing on their sites. :1orglaugh jimmy and stock. Just poking fun at a loser. :thumbsup |
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What's up with the effeminate text from DamianJ these days?
Calling other men "Love" and other "twinkish" type verbalisms in all of his posts lately? Maybe it's time for Damian to go to the doctor and start getting testosterone injections? |
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idiot the gay section of pornhub is bigger then the entire gaytube site so that exactly what is happening why is it not death spiral maybe because gay tube has the defacto name for a gay tube site so the rising tide effecting all tube sites give them a massive influx of traffic to offset the normal migration. Quote:
as proof that my theory will not work and you ignore the fact that such a tube site could still keep growing even if losing people as they become more educated. For high type in traffic tube sites, maybe you would make more money from teasing and not pleasing the newbies, they don't know any better and may buy(until they learn and leave). But that shit won't fly for a tube site that built it traffic on the back of user submitted content. let me ask you a question if you guys are right, and you would turn pornhub into moneymaker 10-100 times better by doing the going legit model as robbie said why not buy it and do the change. |
pornhub is number one for every major porn keyword. their traffic would be massive even if it was a one page sales lander. with their search traffic even "mexican two headed gay midget" videos are going to get tons of views just from people clicking around the site.
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When will he turn his pc off :pimp |
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