wow ... protests of the 99% ... now in 78 nations!

[Overload]

its just been in the news ... more and more ppl stand up to to protest against "money to save banks" and company greed - its OUR money they swallow they say ...

more : http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/15/wo...y-goes-global/ ... wowser

[Ronzo]

Morons in 78 countries united in a common cause that none of them understand... isn't that just wonderful.

[BlackCrayon]

doing something is 99% better than doing nothing at all.

[halfpint]

I kinda thought this would fizzle out when it first started but it is growing pretty fast lol

[halfpint]

I see some of them are turning violent

[cherrylula]

They did a protest down here in New Orleans, but as usual, it turned into a drinking parade.

there's an anarchist group down here that has picnics in the park too. LOL so awesome.

[Rochard]

People are pissed. I get that.

But if I didn't have a job, I wouldn't be slumming it in some park in San Francisco protesting a movement that doesn't seem to have a purpose. I'd be looking for a job.

[Fletch XXX]

i just like to see people setting shit on fire.

BURN BABY BURN

when soldiers do it to innocent civilians during war its fine, so why shouldnt protestors do it?

MOLOTOV MOTHERFUCKERS

[Barry-xlovecam]

Never underestimate the angry mob -- I'll bet the phones are ringing now

[Fletch XXX]

live vid its going down cops vs ppl in rome http://videochat.corriere.it/index_H2401.shtml

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Simple stuff, if you don't like a company for any reason, don't buy or use their service.

Like anything HP or Samsung. I've had lot's of problems with their computers and monitors in the past. Now, I just don't buy or recommend them. - That's how I protest.

this isnt about corporations who produce a product, its about investment companies who move numbers around and play with money. They dont produce anything, they simply use the money of american families and then fuck them over... put them in homes they know they will default on, then take em back and start over, this is deeper than buying products like coke or dell.

totally different.

[seeandsee]

and nothing changes...

[Captain Kawaii]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

this isnt about corporations who produce a product, its about investment companies who move numbers around and play with money. They dont produce anything, they simply use the money of american families and then fuck them over... put them in homes they know they will default on, then take em back and start over, this is deeper than buying products like coke or dell.

totally different.

Yep, like the investment firms buying up or leasing millions of acres in Africa, displacing thousands of farmers and causing famines and widespread death...what needs to happen is a few million less bankers in the world. Before the end of 2012 i expect the streets of the world to be red with blood.

[Overload]

Originally Posted by seeandsee

and nothing changes...

if the folks in egypt, libya etc thot the same ... nothing would have changed as long as ppl follow like sheep nothing changes ... remember east germany? they were pissed and brought down a criminal regime ... now its time for the low life ppl to vent ... and IF nothing changes - changes will be forced i guess

[BFT3K]

Here, smell the hypocrisy...



https://youtube.com/watch?v=RGRXCgMdz9A

[Gouge]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Morons in 78 countries united in a common cause that none of them understand... isn't that just wonderful.

You nailed it baby!

[Lucy - CSC]

I went today and it is totally different from what you think. Everyone split down into various sections according to your skill set to discuss ideas on what we can do to create real change. This is happening world wide so the numbers of people involved now trying to change the future is in the millions.

[HandballJim]

This protest will not work in this country because too many of us have way too much to lose if you get arrested. You don't even have to resist arrest, they will and are tacking on extra charges if you get arrested. It is usually your word against theirs and you will need a good lawyer to get off. So just to get out of jail could cost you a lot of $$$ and your career if you have one. People I work with have been stopping by the wall street protest and the police just keep everyone crowded into that park area. The media will start treating them like villains once they get more traction. The current administration will make you the bad guy if you act out away from the norm. Similar how they treated the tea party movement. They will make up some name to call the wall street protesters that sounds crazy. Remember your supposed to not question the government and be herded like sheep. Immigrants in this country don't question the government and are just happy to stay here...so they will allow them to stay here legal/or not and keep open boarders. My wife is Japanese/an immigrant here under 10 years and totally clueless about whats going on and really could care less. But she is damn happy to be here and pay a lot of taxes.

These protests worked in nations that are 3rd world nations where people are peasants with no money and zero to lose.

[Frank21]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Simple stuff, if you don't like a company for any reason, don't buy or use their service.

Like anything HP or Samsung. I've had lot's of problems with their computers and monitors in the past. Now, I just don't buy or recommend them. - That's how I protest.

Les Schwab - driving down the road, car swerves and I hit a block of wood with a nail. Les Schwab was less then a block away and coasted right in. They had my truck on a rack, tire patched in less then an hour. Total cost? Nothing, they just wanted my future business and they got it for next 10 years until I moved out of state. Hell, I even bought their stock.

What if the banking system created 1.5 quadrillion dollars of toxic loans wich if they fail will put every citizen in a debt of 500 000 dollars?
Are you happy to pay for 3 generations debts that some criminal banks had made and your government signd on to?

[HandballJim]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

doing something is 99% better than doing nothing at all.

I agree with this but your better off just voting everyone out office who holds seats and is part of this big mess, the issue is things need to change at the top. We need someone to get elected with real balls and really change shit up. Tell corporations you need to open businesses here and hire here....or we just triple tax you to sell here, or don't allow them to do business in this country.

Look at the banks they just added all these fees, did our government step in to stop this...or course not.

[Frank21]

Originally Posted by HandballJim

I agree with this but your better off just voting everyone out office who holds seats and is part of this big mess, the issue is things need to change at the top. We need someone to get elected with real balls and really change shit up. Tell corporations you need to open businesses here and hire here....or we just triple tax you to sell here, or don't allow them to do business in this country.

Look at the banks they just added all these fees, did our government step in to stop this...or course not.

Sory to inform you, but the USA government is bought and paid for by the banks that IS the exact problem.

Remember cia asset Barak Obama who lied to the whole world and said he would put NO ONE from wall street in his government?
Has more wallstreet in his government as any previous government.

The connection between the 4 largest banks in the world and USA government makes it a fascistic system not a democratic system.

[HandballJim]

Originally Posted by Frank21

Sory to inform you, but the USA government is bought and paid for by the banks that IS the exact problem.

Remember cia asset Barak Obama who lied to the whole world and said he would put NO ONE from wall street in his government?
Has more wallstreet in his government as any previous government.

The connection between the 4 largest banks in the world and USA government makes it a fascistic system not a democratic system.

No denying he is a big liar, but we all fell for the Real Change slogan, we should have know coming from a corrupt city like Chicago that we would get duped.

[Shedevils]

Originally Posted by Frank21

Sory to inform you, but the USA government is bought and paid for by the banks that IS the exact problem.

If anyone doesn't understand the nature of the protests this is at the heart of it. It's about representation, and having a government that represents the interests of the people.

Admittedly this message is befuddled by a lot of hipster douchebags at the protests, but that's the basic issue.

When has a democratically elected government done anything it has promised the people in recent times? Not much, so therefore no representation of the 99%.

[SuckOnThis]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

What the fuck happened to Americans? It's people like you who think you should be entitled to something. It's simple, if you can't afford to buy it, don't. This is what gets me about this country turning to shit. You're not entitled to anything with just effort, or because you fucking "tried" hard. Success is the true accomplishment.

If you're too fucking stupid to read your loan application or understand the terms, then who's fault is it really? What's next, if someone gets behind on their car payment it's the sales persons fault?

Anyway, it's hard for companies like JP Morgan/Chase or Goldman to get clients if you refuse to use their service.

I have yet to see where anyone is saying they feel entitled to anything, not sure why people keep repeating that like some fucking Limbaugh parrot.

[vdbucks]

Originally Posted by Rochard

People are pissed. I get that.

But if I didn't have a job, I wouldn't be slumming it in some park in San Francisco protesting a movement that doesn't seem to have a purpose. I'd be looking for a job.

And when you couldn't find a job?

It's not like 9.1% of the American people are unemployed by choice...

[Overload]

Originally Posted by HandballJim

This protest will not work in this country because too many of us have way too much to lose if you get arrested. You don't even have to resist arrest, they will and are tacking on extra charges if you get arrested. It is usually your word against theirs and you will need a good lawyer to get off. So just to get out of jail could cost you a lot of $$$ and your career if you have one. People I work with have been stopping by the wall street protest and the police just keep everyone crowded into that park area. The media will start treating them like villains once they get more traction. The current administration will make you the bad guy if you act out away from the norm. Similar how they treated the tea party movement. They will make up some name to call the wall street protesters that sounds crazy. Remember your supposed to not question the government and be herded like sheep. Immigrants in this country don't question the government and are just happy to stay here...so they will allow them to stay here legal/or not and keep open boarders. My wife is Japanese/an immigrant here under 10 years and totally clueless about whats going on and really could care less. But she is damn happy to be here and pay a lot of taxes.

These protests worked in nations that are 3rd world nations where people are peasants with no money and zero to lose.

once you get beyond that you will realise they protest for YOU and where on earth is GERMANY or JAPAN a 3rd world country? you totally miss their point i guess

[garce]

How many of these 99%ers actually make a good living? I know the union leaders involved in the Toronto protest are doing just fine and dandy.

[kane]

Here in Portland it is starting to become a big deal/problem. When it first started the police chief wanted to shut them down because they had no permit. The mayor told them to hold off that this would blow over in a few days. Well, it hasn't. It has gotten bigger and bigger over the last week and is now spilling out into the streets. So they are rerouting buses and traffic and some people are pissed. The mayor is now in a can't win situation. Chances are if he tries to break it up it will turn out ugly and make national news which will only fuel the fire. If he doesn't break it up he sets a precedence that could come back and bite him in the ass.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Fuck you and your Limbaugh parrot shit. He's a clown. The true reality is we are all at fault, so let me clue you in.

The SEC, Congress, Fed Reserve, and The People created this problem. In the beginning poor regulation and lack of enforcement initially created this problem.

The SEC - knew AIG was insuring toxic loans and also turned a blind eye to unregulated credit default swaps. The system was so corrupt the SEC, a government agency, destroyed 1000's of complaints from private watchdog groups. Government agency are strictly forbidden to destroy any records of anything. To date, nothing has been done about it.

Congress - Instead of practicing our true capitalistic system and letting these banks fail, Congress voted in favor for the Fed to flood massive amounts of money into the system attributing more to our large debt, not once, but three times now. Now when the markets/business even get a bit shaky, they want a QE3. In short, business/markets transformed to socialist who feel they are entitled for the FED to step in and calm the markets.

Fed Reserve- Like Congress the FR refuse to let the markets/business correct itself and let business and banks fail. Now FR is pumping (QE) trillions in low/no interest loans to keep the system afloat preventing true capitalism, creating an entitlement socialistic business arena that will eventually fail. Meaning, why should I work hard when my competitor can simply expand/carve out a larger market share with endless ZERO interest FR capital?

The People- who bought into the fact a $35k-$45k yearly income could buy a $275k home or more insuring their stupidity not understanding a variable mortgage loan application. They simply bought a home they could not afford out of ignorance and learned the hard way the number one rule of investing? Don't invest in something you don't understand. Now they feel suckered by the banks, when in truth, their own ignorance was at fault.

The true victims are homeowners who can afford our mortgages that now suffer from property devaluation because others were too stupid to understand their loan condition/terms as these homes now sit empty on our streets.

It's truly hard to feel sorry for them because they're completely oblivious that they're also to blame for this massive problem. Although, it's easy to see why they're so upset when they watch these very same banks get flooded with zero interest capital as they're being foreclosed on as they still refuse to take responsibility for themselves. It's truly pathetic.

You make some good points but let me give you a little more information and see if you change your mind at all. Between 2005 and 2008 40% of the homes purchased with sub-prime mortgages were second homes meant as investment homes. These were houses people were going to flip or rent out. The reason they thought this was a good investment is because between 1997 and 2005 the average house in America increased in value by 124%. People thought they could make some easy money and ended up being wrong.

So I ask, is this not just capitalism at work for the people, yet a self inflicted wound for wall street? If GM designs a new car that they think is going to be a huge seller and they hire 5,000 workers and spend millions getting it to market only to have it flop and they have to shut down the line and lay people off and eat the financial loss. It only effects those who worked there or those who invest in GM. The reason is because the banking system hasn't taken GM stock and used it as a foundation to build a house of cards on which the build a huge industry of financial products. They put the stock in funds, but the don't overextend it and use it for 20 times its worth.

The same goes for these homes. The time was right. The people had access to cheap, easy credit and they saw the market rising and they took a stab at it. Some made money and many, clearly failed. The difference is that those mortgages were sold by the bank to other banks who then sold them again and that person split them up an used them as the asset base for 20 different investment funds, hedges and products. So when Joe Bob and his wife Jill fail with their flip instead of it just hurting them and potentially the bank that loaned them the money it now sets off a chain reaction that causes 100 people downstream to be hurt.

So the people should be blamed to some degree, but the primary culprit here is the banking system, wall street and our leaders who allowed this system to be put into place where so much can be based on one thing.

[L-Pink]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Fuck you and your Limbaugh parrot shit. He's a clown. The true reality is we are all at fault, so let me clue you in.

The SEC, Congress, Fed Reserve, and The People created this problem. In the beginning poor regulation and lack of enforcement initially created this problem.

The SEC - knew AIG was insuring toxic loans and also turned a blind eye to unregulated credit default swaps. The system was so corrupt the SEC, a government agency, destroyed 1000's of complaints from private watchdog groups. Government agency are strictly forbidden to destroy any records of anything. To date, nothing has been done about it.

Congress - Instead of practicing our true capitalistic system and letting these banks fail, Congress voted in favor for the Fed to flood massive amounts of money into the system attributing more to our large debt, not once, but three times now. Now when the markets/business even get a bit shaky, they want a QE3. In short, business/markets transformed to socialist who feel they are entitled for the FED to step in and calm the markets.

Fed Reserve- Like Congress the FR refuse to let the markets/business correct itself and let business and banks fail. Now FR is pumping (QE) trillions in low/no interest loans to keep the system afloat preventing true capitalism, creating an entitlement socialistic business arena that will eventually fail. Meaning, why should I work hard when my competitor can simply expand/carve out a larger market share with endless ZERO interest FR capital?

The People- who bought into the fact a $35k-$45k yearly income could buy a $275k home or more insuring their stupidity not understanding a variable mortgage loan application. They simply bought a home they could not afford out of ignorance and learned the hard way the number one rule of investing? Don't invest in something you don't understand. Now they feel suckered by the banks, when in truth, their own ignorance was at fault.

The true victims are homeowners who can afford our mortgages that now suffer from property devaluation because others were too stupid to understand their loan condition/terms as these homes now sit empty on our streets.

It's truly hard to feel sorry for them because they're completely oblivious that they're also to blame for this massive problem. Although, it's easy to see why they're so upset when they watch these very same banks get flooded with zero interest capital as they're being foreclosed on as they still refuse to take responsibility for themselves. It's truly pathetic.

Americans are bombarded with corporate advertising and marketing gimmicks. The mortgage fiasco was a great example. Millions of defective products, mortgages, were hyped and sold unregulated to the American public.

This was the marketing plan of a shitty product that made staggering profits before the defects were noticed. It was a scam that devastated the products purchasers and bystanders as well.

.

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by Ronzo

Morons in 78 countries united in a common cause that none of them understand... isn't that just wonderful.

lets burn down the castle

[Paul Markham]

Have those protesting indirectly been benefiting from the Financial Sectors activities in the past?

One of the top performing industries in the Western World are the Financial Sectors. For years they made billions a year and that money flowed into the country where they were based. To pay for Schools, Hospitals, public Services, etc.

A $million bonus often 1/2 disappears in tax or a high % of it. Into a countries coffers.

Without the financial sector most Western Countries would be more fucked than they are.

Fuck with the banks and the banks might just say, Fuck You and fuck off to China, Hong Kong, or anywhere they are welcomed. Then those protesting will really feel the pain.

Go grab a History book and read up on the Great Depression, when the banks were allowed to fail. And the results of that decision. They took with them many people's money and future.

[Barry-xlovecam]

Let them eat cake!



Looks like the genie is out of the bottle ...

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by Captain Kawaii

Yep, like the investment firms buying up or leasing millions of acres in Africa, displacing thousands of farmers and causing famines and widespread death...what needs to happen is a few million less bankers in the world. Before the end of 2012 i expect the streets of the world to be red with blood.

Guess you are going to do something besides this then. Millions of people working in banks die, then the card interchange doesn't work, then nobody can pay you, and you can't pay hosting etc. How are your ditch digging skills?



.

[BFT3K]

Originally Posted by sperbonzo

Guess you are going to do something besides this then. Millions of people working in banks die, then the card interchange doesn't work, then nobody can pay you, and you can't pay hosting etc. How are your ditch digging skills?

Wow, talk about jumping to wild conclusions!

[cykoe6]

The more regular people see footage of hippies, Marxists, union agitators and various other types of societal parasites and freeloaders sowing chaos and disorder, the more the "silent majority" will turn against the Obama/Soros left.

[Alex69]

hippies still don't get it - its not about saving banks, its about saving $ hippies have in this banks

[EukerVoorn]

I love this development. Those who think this sucks are the ones who don't know what it's about and the ones who turn this into a "workers vs not-workers" think are just dumb. The 1% who have so much money are the ones who never worked. They are only kids born with a golden spoon in their mouth and always had others to work for them. The 1% doesn't consist of people who were born poor and worked hard as porn producers or affiliates and make $100,000 to $1,000,000 per year. This isn't about millonaires. The 1% consists of people so fucking filthy rich that it would be impossible for them to spend all the money the have. These people have 10-times-1-million-dollars or more. They made huge profits on all the bank and corporate scams in the past decennia and now the pyramid is collapsing they want to stay out of the picture.

Again, I love this and I'm going to Paris this week to join this. And fuck a Paris whore in Bois de Boulogne to celebrate this revolution.

[kane]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

Kane, we are on the same page, almost. We "lived" in a capitalistic society until Congress decided to turn us socialists. They should of NEVER approved any bailouts and let the weak fail as the strong will always raise to the top.

Meaning, if I deposit $100 in my bank and the bank hedges/loans $900 on that $100 and the loan investment fails? They made a poor choice, as with the homeowner who ran the "risk" to build quick equity as the market dropped causing the loss of their investment capital. They also made a poor choice. The only difference here, and what people should be protesting about, Banks can go to the FED and re-capitalize themselves with zero/no interest loans approved by Congress.

Could you or I get a zero/low interest loan from the FED? Fuck no we couldn't. Congress/President could easily stop this, but they opt to run the risk in "hopes" all will work itself out. It's not, people are getting angry because things are getting worse with no light at the end of the tunnel.

We Americans need to fall back on our fundamentals that built this country and stop using dead Austrian financial theories to dictate or financial future. Sadly, if you asked the protestors who represents them in Congress, I doubt 90% would even know.

Also, it's not just the Government, but us. I few months ago I went to Walmart to buy a fishing rod and parked in the back of the lot because my dog is a barking spastic.

Anyway, as I walked back to the truck an old motorhome was close and the family was actually having a BBQ in the parking lot. As I loaded the gear, I see a guy from the BBQ come over and spark a conversation.

Thinking he was going to complain about the dog he starts in with a sad story about losing his job and his family dosen't have anywhere to go and they're almost out of gas, etc.

Thinking I'll soon get $20 in Karma points, but then smelled vodka, he's smoking, and his kids, (10-12) must of weighted 180lb each. Sorry I said, can't help you and got in my truck and left.

I was reading the other day about how many of these investment banks that have access to that near or at zero interest fed loans are basically just taking huge loans then buying t-bills with it at a guaranteed rate, cashing in the t-bills upon the mature date and paying back the loan and it is instant free money with zero risk. Too bad I can't do that.

[BlackCrayon]

people will support an unjust system if they feel they have a shot at becoming one of them. seems more and more people don't feel they ever have that shot anymore. cards are increasingly stacked against them through corporate lobbying, etc.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Overload

its just been in the news ... more and more ppl stand up to to protest against "money to save banks" and company greed - its OUR money they swallow they say ...

more : http://edition.cnn.com/2011/10/15/wo...y-goes-global/ ... wowser

And in most of those countries they are rioting and causing lots of problems. Even the freaks in the US are at least civilized.

[Fletch XXX]

Originally Posted by Jesus H Christ

What the fuck happened to Americans? It's people like you who think you should be entitled to something.

LOL i am not participating on either side, I was simply explaining the difference between not buying a product as a means of protesting and what is going on.

LOL
you are going off for no reason other than to hear yourself talk because what you posted is about as accurate towards me as a stormtroooper shooting in star wars LOL

[sperbonzo]

Originally Posted by BFT3K

Wow, talk about jumping to wild conclusions!

Did you read the post I was responding to? He said that there would be blood in the streets and millions of bankers would die. If millions of bankers die, we are all out of business and e-commerce stops. I work with banks all over the place on a daily basis, that's been my business a long time.


What are you laughing at?


.

[will76]

Originally Posted by Fletch XXX

LOL i am not participating on either side, I was simply explaining the difference between not buying a product as a means of protesting and what is going on.

LOL
you are going off for no reason other than to hear yourself talk because what you posted is about as accurate towards me as a stormtroooper shooting in star wars LOL

I think you forgot to add "LOL"





on an actual funny note, I heard these people referred to as the "flea bagers".

[EukerVoorn]

Originally Posted by BlackCrayon

people will support an unjust system if they feel they have a shot at becoming one of them. seems more and more people don't feel they ever have that shot anymore.

This is true. That's why people get on the street now and not when economies were still booming and they thought they had a chance. Would be nice if people who have the option to become rich would say... no thanks, I rather share my money with some other poor ones.

It's like a sinking ship where grown men will push away women and children to get into the rescue boat first. In the end people will always be selfish.

Still I support this movement. Something really needs to change.

[GregE]

Originally Posted by vdbucks

And when you couldn't find a job?

It's not like 9.1% of the American people are unemployed by choice...

The really amazing thing here is that lots of otherwise intelligent people really, really believe that.

What do they think?

Do they think somebody put something in the drinking water that has all of a sudden made all of these people become incorrigibly lazy?

[uno]

Originally Posted by kane

Here in Portland it is starting to become a big deal/problem. When it first started the police chief wanted to shut them down because they had no permit. The mayor told them to hold off that this would blow over in a few days. Well, it hasn't. It has gotten bigger and bigger over the last week and is now spilling out into the streets. So they are rerouting buses and traffic and some people are pissed. The mayor is now in a can't win situation. Chances are if he tries to break it up it will turn out ugly and make national news which will only fuel the fire. If he doesn't break it up he sets a precedence that could come back and bite him in the ass.

[kane]

Originally Posted by uno

LOL that is classic. . . and sadly dead on. There wasn't many complaints about the Occupy Portland protesters until they started blocking the bike lanes.

[uno]

My favorite line is "Portland is where young people go to retire."

[12clicks]

Originally Posted by GregE

The really amazing thing here is that lots of otherwise intelligent people really, really believe that.

What do they think?

Do they think somebody put something in the drinking water that has all of a sudden made all of these people become incorrigibly lazy?

The really amazing thing here is that lots of otherwise intelligent people really, really believe that its someone else's fault that they have huge credit card debt, huge student loan debt, and an upside down mortgage.

THEY chose all of it, lived beyond their means, and now want a bail out.

at the end of the day, NOTHING will come of it.
The producer class is not going to give up what they EARNED to help out a bunch of whiners.