How Can A Paysite Go Bust? - GoFuckYourself.com

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 08:57 PM

I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...

Lets say you open a paysite, have exclusive content and regular updates.

Now you get maybe 10-50 experienced gallery makers to make/submit your gallery all over. I mean these guys that keep talking shit how they get 10-20 signups per listing, lol

As well have 100 hosted galleries to attract the newbie "webmaster".

If the problem is getting them to promote it, then wouldnt you just jack up the pay-per payout to like $50? Or make it $35 per signup and anyone who gets more than 30 signups per period will get paid $45 each or something.

I dont see how you can go wrong?

Sly_RJ · 02-01-2003, 08:58 PM

Oh my.

XXXPaysiteDesign · 02-01-2003, 08:59 PM

You're joking, right?

PerfectionGirls · 02-01-2003, 09:01 PM

Never... I repeat.... NEVER open a paysite! Ohhhh my!

Tipsy · 02-01-2003, 09:02 PM

This guy's funny

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 09:03 PM

wtf, lol

4 replies and 0 answers, heh

stocktrader23 · 02-01-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
You're joking, right?

$5 says he's right.

bawdy · 02-01-2003, 09:04 PM

its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 09:04 PM

ive never been on that side of the fence so i dont know the workings, just doesnt make sense how they wouldnt make money.

Is it all about chargebacks? Thats about all i can think of

candyflip · 02-01-2003, 09:04 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
wtf, lol

4 replies and 0 answers, heh

Did you expect something else here?

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 09:05 PM

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Originally posted by bawdy
its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

lol shudup

PerfectionGirls · 02-01-2003, 09:06 PM

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I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...

Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

besterman · 02-01-2003, 09:06 PM

My opinion is this:

If there exists at least 1 paysite out there that is better than what I could conceivably build on my own (even if I had a lot of money), then it makes business sense to partner with that paysite instead of building your own.

The second part is, there is a very high probability that such a site exists.

stocktrader23 · 02-01-2003, 09:07 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

May I ask how it's not?

quiet · 02-01-2003, 09:07 PM

lo fucking l

Sly_RJ · 02-01-2003, 09:08 PM

I just fell out of my chair after reading this thread again.

Lilrich, hit me up on ICQ, I'll explain a few things. I'm sorry, a LOT of things...

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 09:10 PM

Anyone know how to delete a thread? lol

aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol

Spunky · 02-01-2003, 09:11 PM

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Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Anyone know how to delete a thread? lol

aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol

Too Late..

You cant delete it only Moderators

Bobo · 02-01-2003, 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...

Lets say you open a paysite, have exclusive content and regular updates.

Now you get maybe 10-50 experienced gallery makers to make/submit your gallery all over. I mean these guys that keep talking shit how they get 10-20 signups per listing, lol

As well have 100 hosted galleries to attract the newbie "webmaster".

If the problem is getting them to promote it, then wouldnt you just jack up the pay-per payout to like $50? Or make it $35 per signup and anyone who gets more than 30 signups per period will get paid $45 each or something.

I dont see how you can go wrong?

Say you make $1 million bucks. Is that good? It all depends on what your expenses look like. If your expenses exceed $1 million than you're in the hole and you're no better off than when you started. You're in the red.

There are no gaurantees as to how well your program will attract new subscribers nor how long you will retain the people that do become members. Take that into account when weighing hosting costs, paying employees, time and effort on your part, fees for processing payments (third-party processors and merchant banking are not free), and other factors that cost you money.

It's not easy but it's easier to start up than your typicat brick and mortar business (at least it was years ago).

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 09:14 PM

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Originally posted by spunky1

Too Late.. You cant delete it only Moderators

ok ok ok who do i talk to to become a moderator to delete this thing, lol

j/k

Dax · 02-01-2003, 09:16 PM

A paysite goes bust when:

expenses are more than revenue.

russian_agent_69 · 02-01-2003, 09:17 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

Wow pedo, you've become quite the expert in your 6 months of existence.

candyflip · 02-01-2003, 09:18 PM

Hey Perfection...no link if your button...what's the point?

Alky · 02-01-2003, 09:18 PM

if you had 1000 posts you could delete it... hit me up on icq 9287771, i wanna talk to you

Bobo · 02-01-2003, 09:23 PM

One last lesson lil2rich4u2 and I want you to take this one to heart. I sympathize with you which is why I'm sharing this piece of advice with you.

Never under any circumstances accept anything that people say to you regarding making money in this biz (or any for that matter).

The guy that 'wants to help you out' or 'show you the ropes' doesn't give a shit about you. All to often this friendly guy just wants to fuck you up the ass, metaphorically speaking.

He'll use you to better himself. It's a fucking shame but true.

sternyduke · 02-01-2003, 09:24 PM

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Originally posted by bawdy
its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

now that was funny

if your 2 rich for me how come your broke?

p!mpd0g · 02-01-2003, 09:26 PM

pimpdog's~ How to start a paysite and succeed.

1.quit your day job.
2.learn how to spam, or get other ppl to teach you how to spam.
3.spam hard, long, and fast.
4.invest, reinvest, and then reinvest your profits.
5. see #4
6.sit around and think shit up.
7. repeat #4 & #6 over and over.
8. must sit at pc for atleast 14 hrs per day for 2 yrs straight.

Alky · 02-01-2003, 09:27 PM

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Originally posted by sternyduke

now that was funny

if your 2 rich for me how come your broke?

are you a sterny duke?

SuperVillain · 02-01-2003, 09:29 PM

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Originally posted by stocktrader23

$5 says he's right.

You got a bet.

SuperVillain · 02-01-2003, 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p!mpd0g
pimpdog's~ How to start a paysite and succeed.

.2.learn how to spam, or get other ppl to teach you how to spam.
3.spam hard, long, and fast.
.

Yeah spam traffic is awesome

PerfectionGirls · 02-01-2003, 09:37 PM

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aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol

Don't delete it... it's a good topic! I didnt mean to be smug at all, but man. Here it is.. 11:36pm on a Sat. evening and I am here working. The time commitment alone is staggering my friend.

Your question is a good one, but it is about the same as explaining the meaning of life. Lets put it this way... it is not nearly as easy as what you discribed.

Where would you start?

Its a fair question... just impossible to explain in one sitting.

AaronM · 02-01-2003, 09:41 PM

Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

Ramster · 02-01-2003, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
ive never been on that side of the fence so i dont know the workings, just doesnt make sense how they wouldnt make money.

Is it all about chargebacks? Thats about all i can think of

Okay, here's a theory. You pay $50 per signup on a site that has a trial of $5.95 and only half convert to the monthly fee of $39.95 where less than half of those recur the 2nd month.

Gettin' rich now? NOT!

Alky · 02-01-2003, 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

nigga! i tryin i tryin

Bobo · 02-01-2003, 09:44 PM

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Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
The time commitment alone is staggering.

Very true.

9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope of coarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

You will have to foresake a lot of things in the short run. You will lose friends, girlfriends, and other people that you may or may not care about. That's the price you pay for aspiring to success.

One the other hand, If you spend 14 hrs per day for several years and have little to show for it at the end of that period, consider yourself a fuckin loser, but any dude with common sense should be able to see the writing on the wall BEFORE the end comes to make appropriate changes.

Bobo · 02-01-2003, 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

Its a fair question... just impossible to explain in one sitting.

True.

Theo · 02-01-2003, 10:04 PM

and then you tell me God exists.......

Bobo · 02-01-2003, 10:07 PM

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Originally posted by Bobo

Very true.

9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope ofcoarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

Just to add...if you do make enough coin in a short enough period of time, you don't have to stay in porn. You may choose to start up a 'real' business or invest in stocks, ya know, whatever. Nobody 'knows' how to make money per se, but if you're not a dumbass you have a great advantage over the competition.

bawdy · 02-01-2003, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

i just that i thought i had the right to give him a little dig... cause i have answered lil2rich4u2's questions before like http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=84944

now how about giving me a good spanking and i'll be on my way

SuperVillain · 02-01-2003, 10:19 PM

This is how a pay site really goes, kick up 10-30k(porn sluts don't come cheap) Learn how to set up websites. (Because website designers are going to rape you blind) Get good with marketing. (You have to lure them in) Work your ass of 10-16 hours a day to get good traffic. (Competition is stiff) Make a profit.

.

Because you deserve it.

p00p · 02-01-2003, 10:20 PM

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Originally posted by russian_agent_69

Wow pedo, you've become quite the expert in your 6 months of existence.

OUCH!

nap · 02-01-2003, 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperVillain
This is how a pay site really goes, kick up 10-30k(porn sluts don't come cheap) Learn how to set up websites. (Because website designers are going to rape you blind) Get good with marketing. (You have to lure them in) Work your ass of 10-16 hours a day to get good traffic. (Competition is stiff) Make a profit.
. Because you deserve it.

10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.

FlyingIguana · 02-01-2003, 10:37 PM

if you build it, they will cum

SuperVillain · 02-01-2003, 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap

10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.

Yeah Like I hire the Hollywood hoes. Strippers at to much cash for me. 3 girls!! you'll have a hell of a pay site their.Chargebacks here we come.

Maxpixelz · 02-01-2003, 10:37 PM

I like your style Bobo

quiet · 02-01-2003, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobo
9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope of coarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

You will have to foresake a lot of things in the short run. You will lose friends, girlfriends, and other people that you may or may not care about. That's the price you pay for aspiring to success.

that's been my experience. except the hours are more like 15-16 hrs/day - every day/every week/every year.

ambition is a bitch

lil2rich4u2 · 02-01-2003, 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap

10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.

shiiit id blow a few hundred on some hoes in the clubs and still not get laid, i wonder if i can just front a phony porn site biz and finally get laid?

lol j/k

lots of good posts comin here! Thanks guys!

sternyduke · 02-01-2003, 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alky
are you a sterny duke?

no, i am a duke then a sterny

now le't go have a drink

The Other Steve · 02-01-2003, 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
if you build it, they will cum

In your dreams

lill2rich - unless you are very experienced at such things as marketing and traffic manipulation - and you control lots of traffic - all a paysite will do for you is to turn a very large amount of money into a very small amount of money.

Now it seems to me that if you want to ask typical newbie questions - but don't like the ribbing that you get here - then you should be asking those questions on a newbie board.

nap · 02-01-2003, 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperVillain

Yeah Like I hire the Hollywood hoes. Strippers at to much cash for me. 3 girls!! you'll have a hell of a pay site their.Chargebacks here we come.

i havent put the site up yet, dont plan on putting the site up until i have a few more girls. 3 girls is where i'm at now all the while doing research(looking at porn boards)

02-01-2003, 08:57 PM	#1
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	How Can A Paysite Go Bust? I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ... Lets say you open a paysite, have exclusive content and regular updates. Now you get maybe 10-50 experienced gallery makers to make/submit your gallery all over. I mean these guys that keep talking shit how they get 10-20 signups per listing, lol As well have 100 hosted galleries to attract the newbie "webmaster". If the problem is getting them to promote it, then wouldnt you just jack up the pay-per payout to like $50? Or make it $35 per signup and anyone who gets more than 30 signups per period will get paid $45 each or something. I dont see how you can go wrong? __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

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lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	ive never been on that side of the fence so i dont know the workings, just doesnt make sense how they wouldnt make money. Is it all about chargebacks? Thats about all i can think of __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

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bawdy Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,424	its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

02-01-2003, 09:06 PM	#13
besterman Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 623	My opinion is this: If there exists at least 1 paysite out there that is better than what I could conceivably build on my own (even if I had a lot of money), then it makes business sense to partner with that paysite instead of building your own. The second part is, there is a very high probability that such a site exists.

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Sly_RJ Live Hard - Die Hard Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Ready to leave... Posts: 17,042	I just fell out of my chair after reading this thread again. Lilrich, hit me up on ICQ, I'll explain a few things. I'm sorry, a LOT of things... __________________ PHAT SERVERS - Quality dedicated hosting at a quality price! sly AT phatservers DOT com - 147479144

02-01-2003, 09:10 PM	#17
lil2rich4u2 ICQ: 175171926 Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: New York, NY Posts: 11,046	Anyone know how to delete a thread? lol aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol __________________ HEY!! Unbeatable hosting! Customer service is top notch! --> ISPrime <-- Do a search on any board, their reputation is rock solid .. for years!!

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Dax Confirmed User Industry Role: Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: USA Posts: 3,161	A paysite goes bust when: expenses are more than revenue.

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candyflip Carpe Visio Industry Role: Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: New York Posts: 43,067	Hey Perfection...no link if your button...what's the point? __________________ Spend you some brain. Email Me

02-01-2003, 09:18 PM	#24
Alky Confirmed User Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 5,651	if you had 1000 posts you could delete it... hit me up on icq 9287771, i wanna talk to you

02-01-2003, 09:23 PM	#25
Bobo Confirmed User Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 2,253	One last lesson lil2rich4u2 and I want you to take this one to heart. I sympathize with you which is why I'm sharing this piece of advice with you. Never under any circumstances accept anything that people say to you regarding making money in this biz (or any for that matter). The guy that 'wants to help you out' or 'show you the ropes' doesn't give a shit about you. All to often this friendly guy just wants to fuck you up the ass, metaphorically speaking. He'll use you to better himself. It's a fucking shame but true.

02-01-2003, 09:26 PM	#27
p!mpd0g So Fucking Banned Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 202	pimpdog's~ How to start a paysite and succeed. 1.quit your day job. 2.learn how to spam, or get other ppl to teach you how to spam. 3.spam hard, long, and fast. 4.invest, reinvest, and then reinvest your profits. 5. see #4 6.sit around and think shit up. 7. repeat #4 & #6 over and over. 8. must sit at pc for atleast 14 hrs per day for 2 yrs straight.

02-01-2003, 09:41 PM	#32
AaronM GFY Royality ;) Industry Role: Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: ┌∩┐ ◣_◢ ┌∩┐ Posts: 46,917	Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case. Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

02-01-2003, 10:04 PM	#37
Theo HAL 9000 Industry Role: Join Date: May 2001 Posts: 34,515	and then you tell me God exists.......

02-01-2003, 10:19 PM	#40
SuperVillain Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 259	This is how a pay site really goes, kick up 10-30k(porn sluts don't come cheap) Learn how to set up websites. (Because website designers are going to rape you blind) Get good with marketing. (You have to lure them in) Work your ass of 10-16 hours a day to get good traffic. (Competition is stiff) Make a profit. . Because you deserve it.

02-01-2003, 10:37 PM	#43
FlyingIguana aspiring banker Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: toronto Posts: 10,870	if you build it, they will cum

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