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lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 08:57 PM

How Can A Paysite Go Bust?
 
I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...


Lets say you open a paysite, have exclusive content and regular updates.

Now you get maybe 10-50 experienced gallery makers to make/submit your gallery all over. I mean these guys that keep talking shit how they get 10-20 signups per listing, lol


As well have 100 hosted galleries to attract the newbie "webmaster".


If the problem is getting them to promote it, then wouldnt you just jack up the pay-per payout to like $50? Or make it $35 per signup and anyone who gets more than 30 signups per period will get paid $45 each or something.


I dont see how you can go wrong?

Sly_RJ 02-01-2003 08:58 PM

Oh my.

XXXPaysiteDesign 02-01-2003 08:59 PM

You're joking, right?

PerfectionGirls 02-01-2003 09:01 PM

Never... I repeat.... NEVER open a paysite! Ohhhh my!

Tipsy 02-01-2003 09:02 PM

This guy's funny :1orglaugh

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 09:03 PM

wtf, lol


4 replies and 0 answers, heh

stocktrader23 02-01-2003 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by XXXPaysiteDesign
You're joking, right?
$5 says he's right.

bawdy 02-01-2003 09:04 PM

its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 09:04 PM

ive never been on that side of the fence so i dont know the workings, just doesnt make sense how they wouldnt make money.


Is it all about chargebacks? Thats about all i can think of

candyflip 02-01-2003 09:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
wtf, lol


4 replies and 0 answers, heh

Did you expect something else here?

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bawdy
its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2

lol shudup

PerfectionGirls 02-01-2003 09:06 PM

Quote:

I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...
Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

besterman 02-01-2003 09:06 PM

My opinion is this:

If there exists at least 1 paysite out there that is better than what I could conceivably build on my own (even if I had a lot of money), then it makes business sense to partner with that paysite instead of building your own.

The second part is, there is a very high probability that such a site exists.

stocktrader23 02-01-2003 09:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

May I ask how it's not?

quiet 02-01-2003 09:07 PM

lo fucking l

Sly_RJ 02-01-2003 09:08 PM

I just fell out of my chair after reading this thread again.

Lilrich, hit me up on ICQ, I'll explain a few things. I'm sorry, a LOT of things...

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 09:10 PM

Anyone know how to delete a thread? lol


aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol

Spunky 02-01-2003 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
Anyone know how to delete a thread? lol


aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol

Too Late..:) You cant delete it only Moderators

Bobo 02-01-2003 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
I have no intention of starting one anytime soon since im broke as shit, lol but ...


Lets say you open a paysite, have exclusive content and regular updates.

Now you get maybe 10-50 experienced gallery makers to make/submit your gallery all over. I mean these guys that keep talking shit how they get 10-20 signups per listing, lol


As well have 100 hosted galleries to attract the newbie "webmaster".


If the problem is getting them to promote it, then wouldnt you just jack up the pay-per payout to like $50? Or make it $35 per signup and anyone who gets more than 30 signups per period will get paid $45 each or something.


I dont see how you can go wrong?

Say you make $1 million bucks. Is that good? It all depends on what your expenses look like. If your expenses exceed $1 million than you're in the hole and you're no better off than when you started. You're in the red.

There are no gaurantees as to how well your program will attract new subscribers nor how long you will retain the people that do become members. Take that into account when weighing hosting costs, paying employees, time and effort on your part, fees for processing payments (third-party processors and merchant banking are not free), and other factors that cost you money.

It's not easy but it's easier to start up than your typicat brick and mortar business (at least it was years ago).

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by spunky1

Too Late..:) You cant delete it only Moderators



ok ok ok who do i talk to to become a moderator to delete this thing, lol


j/k

Dax 02-01-2003 09:16 PM

A paysite goes bust when:

expenses are more than revenue.

:Graucho

russian_agent_69 02-01-2003 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls


Your business plan for a paysite could explain your statement above. Man.. if it were only that easy.

Wow pedo, you've become quite the expert in your 6 months of existence.

candyflip 02-01-2003 09:18 PM

Hey Perfection...no link if your button...what's the point?

Alky 02-01-2003 09:18 PM

if you had 1000 posts you could delete it... hit me up on icq 9287771, i wanna talk to you

Bobo 02-01-2003 09:23 PM

One last lesson lil2rich4u2 and I want you to take this one to heart. I sympathize with you which is why I'm sharing this piece of advice with you.

Never under any circumstances accept anything that people say to you regarding making money in this biz (or any for that matter).

The guy that 'wants to help you out' or 'show you the ropes' doesn't give a shit about you. All to often this friendly guy just wants to fuck you up the ass, metaphorically speaking.

He'll use you to better himself. It's a fucking shame but true.

:2 cents:

sternyduke 02-01-2003 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by bawdy
its amazing how nature balances itself out; we lose spacedog and gain lil2rich4u2
now that was funny :1orglaugh

if your 2 rich for me how come your broke?

p!mpd0g 02-01-2003 09:26 PM

pimpdog's~ How to start a paysite and succeed.

1.quit your day job.
2.learn how to spam, or get other ppl to teach you how to spam.
3.spam hard, long, and fast.
4.invest, reinvest, and then reinvest your profits.
5. see #4
6.sit around and think shit up.
7. repeat #4 & #6 over and over.
8. must sit at pc for atleast 14 hrs per day for 2 yrs straight.

Alky 02-01-2003 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sternyduke


now that was funny :1orglaugh

if your 2 rich for me how come your broke?

are you a sterny duke?

SuperVillain 02-01-2003 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by stocktrader23


$5 says he's right.

You got a bet.

SuperVillain 02-01-2003 09:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by p!mpd0g
pimpdog's~ How to start a paysite and succeed.

.2.learn how to spam, or get other ppl to teach you how to spam.
3.spam hard, long, and fast.
.





Yeah spam traffic is awesome:1orglaugh

PerfectionGirls 02-01-2003 09:37 PM

Quote:

aparently ill get no answers, and this thread just makes me look like a jackass, so ill delete it ... but how? lol
Don't delete it... it's a good topic! I didnt mean to be smug at all, but man. Here it is.. 11:36pm on a Sat. evening and I am here working. The time commitment alone is staggering my friend.

Your question is a good one, but it is about the same as explaining the meaning of life. Lets put it this way... it is not nearly as easy as what you discribed.

Where would you start?

Its a fair question... just impossible to explain in one sitting. :)

AaronM 02-01-2003 09:41 PM

Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

Ramster 02-01-2003 09:41 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by lil2rich4u2
ive never been on that side of the fence so i dont know the workings, just doesnt make sense how they wouldnt make money.


Is it all about chargebacks? Thats about all i can think of

Okay, here's a theory. You pay $50 per signup on a site that has a trial of $5.95 and only half convert to the monthly fee of $39.95 where less than half of those recur the 2nd month.

Gettin' rich now? NOT!

Alky 02-01-2003 09:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

nigga! i tryin i tryin

Bobo 02-01-2003 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls
The time commitment alone is staggering.
Very true.

9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope of coarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

You will have to foresake a lot of things in the short run. You will lose friends, girlfriends, and other people that you may or may not care about. That's the price you pay for aspiring to success.

One the other hand, If you spend 14 hrs per day for several years and have little to show for it at the end of that period, consider yourself a fuckin loser, but any dude with common sense should be able to see the writing on the wall BEFORE the end comes to make appropriate changes.

Bobo 02-01-2003 09:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PerfectionGirls

Its a fair question... just impossible to explain in one sitting. :)

True.

Theo 02-01-2003 10:04 PM

and then you tell me God exists.......

Bobo 02-01-2003 10:07 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobo


Very true.

9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope ofcoarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

Just to add...if you do make enough coin in a short enough period of time, you don't have to stay in porn. You may choose to start up a 'real' business or invest in stocks, ya know, whatever. Nobody 'knows' how to make money per se, but if you're not a dumbass you have a great advantage over the competition.

bawdy 02-01-2003 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by AaronM
Lay off the guy. This is a fair question from somebody who has no experience with this shit. Instead of fucking with him...Answer his question. I am no expert in this field so I will not attempt to act as though I know what I am talking about in this case.

Help the fucker...then we can laugh at him as we do spacedog.

i just that i thought i had the right to give him a little dig... cause i have answered lil2rich4u2's questions before like http://www.gofuckyourself.com/showth...threadid=84944

now how about giving me a good spanking and i'll be on my way

SuperVillain 02-01-2003 10:19 PM

This is how a pay site really goes, kick up 10-30k(porn sluts don't come cheap) Learn how to set up websites. (Because website designers are going to rape you blind) Get good with marketing. (You have to lure them in) Work your ass of 10-16 hours a day to get good traffic. (Competition is stiff) Make a profit.:drinkup
.:drinkup Because you deserve it.

p00p 02-01-2003 10:20 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by russian_agent_69


Wow pedo, you've become quite the expert in your 6 months of existence.

OUCH! :Buck:

nap 02-01-2003 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperVillain
This is how a pay site really goes, kick up 10-30k(porn sluts don't come cheap) Learn how to set up websites. (Because website designers are going to rape you blind) Get good with marketing. (You have to lure them in) Work your ass of 10-16 hours a day to get good traffic. (Competition is stiff) Make a profit.:drinkup
.:drinkup Because you deserve it.


10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.

FlyingIguana 02-01-2003 10:37 PM

if you build it, they will cum

SuperVillain 02-01-2003 10:37 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap



10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.

Yeah Like I hire the Hollywood hoes. Strippers at to much cash for me. 3 girls!! you'll have a hell of a pay site their.Chargebacks here we come.

Maxpixelz 02-01-2003 10:37 PM

I like your style Bobo

quiet 02-01-2003 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Bobo
9hr-14hr days even when you're successful. The hope of coarse, is that during those many hours (that turn into years) of hard work you can accumulate and save enough money to retire young.

You will have to foresake a lot of things in the short run. You will lose friends, girlfriends, and other people that you may or may not care about. That's the price you pay for aspiring to success.
that's been my experience. except the hours are more like 15-16 hrs/day - every day/every week/every year.

ambition is a bitch :)

lil2rich4u2 02-01-2003 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by nap



10-30k? i've gotten 3 girls so far for my site and i havent even broken the 500 mark. their not "porn sluts", they are "college/strippers sluts" and tahts all im going for. screw trying to get some bitch who does porn and actually considers herself an actress. give me the "real" hoes. anyway i'm awaiting the rest of the post because i too am curious about the paysites.



shiiit id blow a few hundred on some hoes in the clubs and still not get laid, i wonder if i can just front a phony porn site biz and finally get laid?


lol j/k

lots of good posts comin here! Thanks guys!

sternyduke 02-01-2003 10:45 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Alky
are you a sterny duke?
no, i am a duke then a sterny :1orglaugh now le't go have a drink :winkwink:

The Other Steve 02-01-2003 10:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by FlyingIguana
if you build it, they will cum
In your dreams :)

lill2rich - unless you are very experienced at such things as marketing and traffic manipulation - and you control lots of traffic - all a paysite will do for you is to turn a very large amount of money into a very small amount of money.

Now it seems to me that if you want to ask typical newbie questions - but don't like the ribbing that you get here - then you should be asking those questions on a newbie board.

nap 02-01-2003 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by SuperVillain


Yeah Like I hire the Hollywood hoes. Strippers at to much cash for me. 3 girls!! you'll have a hell of a pay site their.Chargebacks here we come.


i havent put the site up yet, dont plan on putting the site up until i have a few more girls. 3 girls is where i'm at now all the while doing research(looking at porn boards)


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