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Old 09-06-2011, 02:42 AM   #1
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World's Top 10 Most Liveable Cities

The Economist's World's Most Liveable Cities 2011 (Top 10)


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1 Melbourne Australia 97.5
2 Vienna Austria 97.4
3 Vancouver Canada 97.3
4 Toronto Canada 97.2
5 Calgary Canada 96.6
6 Sydney Australia 96.1
7 Helsinki Finland 96.0
8 Perth Australia 95.9
9 Adelaide Australia 95.9
10 Auckland New Zealand 95.7
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You mean to tell me the US didn't make it on the list??!
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well 'free' healthcare and other socialist welfare programs are definitely heavily factored in.

it's not exactly an objective list, you'll notice that there's only two non-English speaking cities ranked.

top US city ranked was Honolulu at 26 and then Pittsburgh at 29.
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well 'free' healthcare and other socialist welfare programs are definitely heavily factored in.

it's not exactly an objective list, you'll notice that there's only two non-English speaking cities ranked.

top US city ranked was Honolulu at 26 and then Pittsburgh at 29.
Pittsburgh!??!
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Pittsburgh!??!
That right there proves this list is crap.
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Old 09-06-2011, 03:36 AM   #9
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Perhaps Calcutta. Prior to the ghastly Great Rebellion of course.
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I can't argue with that list, although I hope everyone includes the San Francisco Bay Area on their list of places to visit. We're not perfect, but we're pretty unique.

Anyway, I absolutely love Vancouver, and Australia and New Zealand are high up on my list of places to visit someday (are there any large adult shows held down under?).

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I vote for Hawaii, Canada is too cold, Australia is too far away.
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Old 09-06-2011, 04:55 AM   #12
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I can't argue with that list, although I hope everyone includes the San Francisco Bay Area on their list of places to visit. We're not perfect, but we're pretty unique.

Anyway, I absolutely love Vancouver, and Australia and New Zealand are high up on my list of places to visit someday (are there any large adult shows held down under?).
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I'd give my left nut to live in Vancouver.
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its just bullshit about Australia been on the list they must have never lived here
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After visiting Vancouver recently, I'd put it at the top of my list of cities I'd like to move to. It even beats San Diego.
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I've heard Vancouver is more expensive than that...

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Vancouver has turned into an absolute shit hole. It used to be such a beautiful city. Now it is over run by immigrants and bums. Seriously the city has gone to shit was there 1 month ago.
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I've been to a fair number of cities and have to say that the US is my favorite place. Primarily because grocery shopping is easier ;p
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I've been to a fair number of cities and have to say that the US is my favorite place. Primarily because grocery shopping is easier ;p
Really narrowed it down there.

Because Houston and Seattle are the same
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That's some fucking bullshit right there. Recently there was another poll like this and it listed some city in Colorado as the best city in the US. Bullshit. It snows there. Any where it snows cannot be "the best". Snow sucks.
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I'd say that for Toronto and Calgary, they took that survey in June.. and not in January, when people forget about the bitter cold. We Canadians only remember the last 3 months worth of weather.
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Don't know about Vancouver now, but in the 90's, early 2000's it was great.

But how the hell is Pittsburgh is even on that list? Portland, Seattle, San Francisco, New Orleans all far superior.
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Half of that list is cold as shit. I will pass.
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Vancouver.... great city but almost as rainy as seattle and more crackheads passed out in alleyways or smoking dope in doorsteps then all the cities ive been to put together!
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You have to remember that safety factors highly in to the calculation. Being as the United States has such a gun culture, you can expect US cities to not rank high.

The Vancouver riot happened too late to be considered in this year's rankings but will most certainly be a factor in the next rankings.
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wonder what is the ranking of the shithole I live in
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You have to remember that safety factors highly in to the calculation. Being as the United States has such a gun culture, you can expect US cities to not rank high.

The Vancouver riot happened too late to be considered in this year's rankings but will most certainly be a factor in the next rankings.
lol @ Americans trying to rationalize why the US isn't at the top of the list.

Gun culture? That's all you have? What about horrible health care system/hostility towards one another/horrible education system/no jobs/crumbling economy/no sense of community/rampant racism/online poker banned (:P).

The US is a shit hole.

So much potential though, but still, shit hole.

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lol @ Americans trying to rationalize why the US isn't at the top of the list.

Gun culture? That's all you have? What about horrible health care system/hostility towards one another/horrible education system/no jobs/crumbling economy/no sense of community/rampant racism.

The US is a shit hole.

So much potential though, but still, shit hole.
you forgot the ban of online poker man
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They haven't taken into account that there are tons of ... Australian people there. ;)

I'll settle for #3.
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lol @ Americans trying to rationalize why the US isn't at the top of the list.

Gun culture? That's all you have? What about horrible health care system/hostility towards one another/horrible education system/no jobs/crumbling economy/no sense of community/rampant racism/online poker banned (:P).

The US is a shit hole.

So much potential though, but still, shit hole.
I know you like to run your mouth without having any real facts but I'm not an American. I'm Canadian.
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You have to remember that safety factors highly in to the calculation. Being as the United States has such a gun culture, you can expect US cities to not rank high.
er no... if people have guns they can protect themselves so they are much safer
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lagos should have made the top 10
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The list appears to be complete bullshit. Just like every other list that has ever been created.

I've never been to Melbourne or Vienna, but I sure as hell would not want to live in Vancouver or Calgary. Or Toronto, for that matter. But I'm stuck here...

Listening to politicians (from all parties) spewing their self-serving, inbred, borderline-retarded jibber-jabber for almost 40 years has pretty well killed off any enthusiasm I have for Canada. I would die for this country, but not because the shitheels who run it asked me to.

I edited a lot of stuff out - don't want anyone knocking on my door tonight...
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I'm not really allowed to own guns here in Canada. I know I can get them by the bucketload if I fill out the right papers, but I'm not comfortable with them and there's too many rules and regulations.

Back in the day, my uncle used to drive around with four rifles arranged in a lovely gunrack mounted on the back window of his pickup truck. That was in Small Town, Ontario (ok, Campbellford...). I'm sure the pussy sniffing Liberals have changed the rules over the last twenty-thirty years, but he never had a problem.

In the city, dogs work just as well as a deterrent. The more dogs, the better.

Even though we're liberal socialist commies, we still have about 30 firearms per 100 people. What that means is that every single person outside of a major urban centre is armed to the fucking teeth.

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I have lived in 5 out of the 10.....

Adelaide - Are they joking?

New Zealand is amazing, but Auckland is not much cop on its own.

I would add Valencia to the list.....
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