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Old 08-06-2011, 04:22 PM   #101
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The human mind is capable of amazing feats of denial and I think this is what we are witnessing from most people.

Funny, this is what can also be said about the conspiracy nuts who can't take any news event at face value.
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feels like years.
Yeah I guess it is because of the sheer amount of posts you have made that made me think your nic was more aged.
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:25 PM   #103
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feels like years.
i know huh.
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:26 PM   #104
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Old 08-06-2011, 04:34 PM   #105
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Actually when I was 20 yrs old I guess I made it onto some list or something because I was ordering out of print books on history and various esoteric subjects. I was also debating my professors (I went to college but took semesters off to travel the world and actually educate myself instead of being indoctrinated). So I guess some people took notice of me. I did receive at that time an "invitation" into something. Not sure if it had anything to do with the fact I am related to a certain politician or what (not going to name him so don't even try). Anyway I was invited into something but at that time I still wanted to figure the world out for myself before I got caught up with people who I might actually not agree with. To this day I still kick myself for not looking into it and just throwing away my invitation. Not giving any more details because I was warned (very politely) not to so I will just leave at that. No doubt some of you will ridicule me for this post but that is ok with me. Does no affect me because I know I am dealing with people who are not fully aware of of how much mass psychology affects their daily lives.

This is hands down the greatest post I have ever seen on GFY......... StickyGreen, mayabang and onwebcam (sorry for those I left out...... but you know who you are) will really need to step up their game if they want to compete with stuff like this. From now on cutting and pasting from Prison Planet is not going to be enough to rule the roost here at GFY. Well done.
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Fantastic post *******
Yes I concur ******* excellent post, mad bravery...it is starting to look like lines are being drawn in the sand...LOL
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Rip guys . I read in vietnam tailgunner was on of the most dangerious jobs. My parents had a friend he flew copters in nam for two tours. So he must of been pretty hot shit and after the war he never flew again. He was a very quite intense guy but very nice i was just a kid. But could only imagine what he experienced.

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Old 08-06-2011, 04:43 PM   #108
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This is hands down the greatest post I have ever seen on GFY......... StickyGreen, mayabang and onwebcam (sorry for those I left out...... but you know who you are) will really need to step up their game if they want to compete with stuff like this. From now on cutting and pasting from Prison Planet is not going to be enough to rule the roost here at GFY. Well done.
He's going to regret never accepting that invite to join the illuminati.
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One thing that always amazes me, all these conspiracy theory stories that would involve large numbers of people and no one becomes a whistleblower ... Amazing ...
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I'm glad it happened (anyone surprised? lol), 30 dead US soldiers = 100s of innocent people that they would have killed now not going to die

would rather 30 soldiers die in an attempt to kill over 1 innocent die for doing nothing
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Threadstarter is a wackjob, he even admitted it himself in another thread:
That was obviously a case of self deprecating humor but I understand how you could not realize that because I posted it on a message board therefore you do not have the benefit of hearing my tone of voice and seeing my facial expressions. You are forgiven.
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There is a lot of anger in this thread.

Can't we all just get along?
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One thing that always amazes me, all these conspiracy theory stories that would involve large numbers of people and no one becomes a whistleblower ... Amazing ...
Yep good point
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One thing that always amazes me, all these conspiracy theory stories that would involve large numbers of people and no one becomes a whistleblower ... Amazing ...
In addition to the numbers involved in the tragedy

I can imagine the conversation:

Elite person A : "so we need to kill off some of Seal Team 6 to maintain secrecy, whats the best way?"

Elite person B: "Helicopter crash"

Elite person A : "sure, sounds good - and to make it believable"

Elite person B: "you need to make sure there are non involved personnel"

Elite person A: "sure, sure, I see where you're going, so how many 2...3..?"

Elite person B: "naaah......should be about 20 or so"

Elite person A: "genius, even I'm starting to believe it"
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:00 PM   #115
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Old 08-06-2011, 05:07 PM   #117
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That was obviously a case of self deprecating humor but I understand how you could not realize that because I posted it on a message board therefore you do not have the benefit of hearing my tone of voice and seeing my facial expressions. You are forgiven.
certainly you have to admit you came out swinging in this thread. calling everyone sick pathetic idiots because you knew better about the seals being murdered in a conpiracy within a conspiracy.

99% of us and all that.
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Why would the report say it's slow moving?

I honestly don't know ANYTHING about aircraft. Just basing my comments on what the media is saying.
Shithook: 170 knots (196 mph, 315 km/h)

Blackhawk: 159 kn (183 mph, 295 km/h)

I would think, you of all people would read "The NEws" with a grain of salt.
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Well not using a Chinook thats for sure the USA have far superior helicopters than those bloody big things and im sure if they wanted to get to some place with out using helicopters the elite forces could do it.
You obviously do not know much about flying.
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Who would be empowered enough to take such decision? Regardless my opinion on these wars I cant believe the president or the generals would do something like that.
My apologies as I did not realize you directed this question to me. I also want to apologize to everyone for all of my typing errors as it is a huge pet peeve of mine. I guess as soon as I saw the news today I flipped out because I had been expecting something like this for Seal Team 6 and I was angered at the huge loss. These Navy Seals members have more heart, soul, and courage than any of us could possibly comprehend.

I really don't have an answer for you on this question. I might think of one later but right now I am going to take my kid to the lake and try to catch one of those trout they stocked a few months ago. Wish me luck!
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I'm glad it happened (anyone surprised? lol), 30 dead US soldiers = 100s of innocent people that they would have killed now not going to die

would rather 30 soldiers die in an attempt to kill over 1 innocent die for doing nothing
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I read most of the OP and thought to myself, what kind of miserable grandstanding SOB would make a political stand on the backs of military soldiers lost in combat?

How fucking depraved do you have to be to even think of something like that, let alone post it. Is our government fucked up, it's there things that happen that are so completely fucking wrong that makes me want to scream? The answer is yes.

But to kill off Seals to cover up something? What kind of retarded shit for brains would even think that, have you even met a Seal team member? I have and you're fucking lucky these people are on our side and not attacking your house. I worked with them as they did opts off our submarine.

Maybe if you even read the article you posted, you would have seen that none of the Seals used in Osama's raid were killed.

Gawd, what a fucking moron!!
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No, just a guy who saw all this even as a child. I have always been fascinated by mass psychology, marketing, politics, religion, and history. I began looking into all this heavily when I was still a teenager. Back then I thought I could reason with people and get them to get out of the matrix but I was dead wrong. I no longer care anymore and feel the same contempt for the masses that the elites do. I understand them now. I guess they look at the world as one giant ant hill that can just be stepped on.

By the way I am probably one of the few people posting in this thread who has actually traveled to many areas of the world and studied history, culture, etc. No I never stayed in fancy hotels and focused on the touristy activities. Instead I would go to libraries, meet locals, and volunteer for archeological digs. I did not get my world view from some government approved text book or from the TV or movies. Why did I do this when most kids my age where getting drunk, absorbing mind numbing TV, and slacking of in colledge? It is because I always knew the official version of history and politics was completely bogus and as a young man I wanted to seek the truth.

nice dog, is that yours?

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uh ... yes?
Alright, I didn't know the plan was to go back to 1955. My bad.

Will everything be in black and white?
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I read most of the OP and thought to myself, what kind of miserable grandstanding SOB would make a political stand on the backs of military soldiers lost in combat?

How fucking depraved do you have to be to even think of something like that, let alone post it. Is our government fucked up, it's there things that happen that are so completely fucking wrong that makes me want to scream? The answer is yes.

But to kill off Seals to cover up something? What kind of retarded shit for brains would even think that, have you even met a Seal team member? I have and you're fucking lucky these people are on our side and not attacking your house. I worked with them as they did opts off our submarine.

Maybe if you even read the article you posted, you would have seen that none of the Seals used in Osama's raid were killed.

Gawd, what a fucking moron!!
I'm just curious if there is anything you didn't do or see while in the military? I've never met a vet with as many stories as you. I know people coming back from war that do not have stories as interesting as when you served during peace time.
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By the way I am probably one of the few people posting in this thread who has actually traveled to many areas of the world and studied history, culture, etc. No I never stayed in fancy hotels and focused on the touristy activities. Instead I would go to libraries, meet locals, and volunteer for archeological digs. I did not get my world view from some government approved text book or from the TV or movies. Why did I do this when most kids my age where getting drunk, absorbing mind numbing TV, and slacking of in colledge? It is because I always knew the official version of history and politics was completely bogus and as a young man I wanted to seek the truth.
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certainly you have to admit you came out swinging in this thread. calling everyone sick pathetic idiots because you knew better about the seals being murdered in a conpiracy within a conspiracy.

99% of us and all that.
Yeah, and now that we know that none of the seal team 6 that killed Osama were killed in Afghanistan, you'd think he would at least post some sort of humble retraction since his entire theory was based on it.
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That was obviously a case of self deprecating humor but I understand how you could not realize that because I posted it on a message board therefore you do not have the benefit of hearing my tone of voice and seeing my facial expressions. You are forgiven.
I read the entire thread and you come across exactly like you called yourself. Your aggressive angry persona in calling us all pathetic idiots in your initial post in this thread, just confirms your description of yourself. Oh wait, is this thread self deprecating humor also?
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Due the secrecy of the Osama mission how does one distinguish if those killed in the helicopter crash really were not part of it?
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I'm just curious if there is anything you didn't do or see while in the military? I've never met a vet with as many stories as you. I know people coming back from war that do not have stories as interesting as when you served during peace time.
You've never met a Submariner.

I've sat down with Vetarans from WWII, submariners, they have balls that clank.

And you think I served during peace time? Wow, guess I should give back that medal?

If you want judge me, get better info first.
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Alex Jones...reminds me of every con artist I met in my life. not saying he is for sure,
but he certainly could sell vacuum cleaners.

what is he selling . fight the power? lol. the enemy is within maybe.

******* is that your dog or what. looks like black shuck. which isnt bad exactly.

http://www.google.com/search?q=black...w&ved=0CCgQsAQ
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let's see... we are in financial trouble and our soldiers are dying...

simple fix

BRING THEM HOME LIKE YOU SAID YOU WOULD
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The elite are not happy (see the Jay Rockefeller video below), things are going to change. However, those researchers who have learned the agenda and strategies of the elite will always have a good nose for future BS and Scams

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but he certainly could sell vacuum cleaners.

what is he selling . fight the power? lol. the enemy is within maybe.

******* is that your dog or what. looks like black shuck. which isnt bad exactly.

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You've never met a Submariner.

I've sat down with Vetarans from WWII, submariners, they have balls that clank.

And you think I served during peace time? Wow, guess I should give back that medal?

If you want judge me, get better info first.
Why did you think I was being sarcastic? OK, maybe I was a little...

I actually only said it because the other day during the ufo thread, you said you knew what it is.

Sorry for thinking you served during peace time ... if you did serve during war time then you probably did see a lot of shit.
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they are everyone, everyone is they
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unfortunately the internet has created a whole generation of dumbass conspiracy theorists that think they know all the secrets and ways of the world because they saw it on youtube.
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Why did you think I was being sarcastic? OK, maybe I was a little...

I actually only said it because the other day during the ufo thread, you said you knew what it is.

Sorry for thinking you served during peace time ... if you did serve during war time then you probably did see a lot of shit.
No worries, when you're on a Submarine, it acts like it's at war at all times, I received a expeditionary medal for service during the Iran Crisis in 1979 that lasted I think 444 days. I was off the coast of Iran for most of it. I spent a lot of time in the Indian Ocean. There was a little island in the middle of it called Diego Garcia where Jack Daniels was $3.20 a bottle. You can imagine what liberty was like.
I do know about things in the deep that I can't talk about. We had to know because we did find some things with special sonar our boat had. My job was a Sonar Technician. I got to see the first touch screen computer used by the military on one piece of equipment
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:25 PM   #142
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Due the secrecy of the Osama mission how does one distinguish if those killed in the helicopter crash really were not part of it?
Because people within the unit would soon figure that out and they'd risk a whistle blower scenario.

If Osama wasn't killed, they wouldn't have said it was SEAL Team 6 if nobody in that unit could be trusted to keep quiet. They would have used intelligence assets ... the professional liars who would have no issue keeping quiet because they've probably been part of far bigger lies. Nobody would have questioned it if the CIA did it because they were after him for years, everybody knows they run ops and were looking for him, etc.

If SEAL Team 6 is staffed with people that would perpetrate a lie like that then they wouldn't have had to stage an accident to off them.

The likely thing is Osama was recently killed and nobody had found him for years because everybody thought he was hiding (and looking in hiding spots), but Pakistan was aiding him all along. The helicopter crash is just bad timing on the heels of Osama capture.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:31 PM   #143
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Who here hasn't looked up at the sound of a helicopter and thought to himself "I could shoot that down"


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I know??

Cant be that hard
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:32 PM   #144
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No worries, when you're on a Submarine, it acts like it's at war at all times, I received a expeditionary medal for service during the Iran Crisis in 1979 that lasted I think 444 days. I was off the coast of Iran for most of it. I spent a lot of time in the Indian Ocean. There was a little island in the middle of it called Diego Garcia where Jack Daniels was $3.20 a bottle. You can imagine what liberty was like.
I do know about things in the deep that I can't talk about. We had to know because we did find some things with special sonar our boat had. My job was a Sonar Technician. I got to see the first touch screen computer used by the military on one piece of equipment
I was casually dating a guy who I parted ways with when he was shipped off to be stationed at Diego Garcia. I know all about that place. I was dating him when he was stationed at Fort Meade (NSA).

What I always think is funny is that we dated in 2000. At that time, I could just drive onto Fort Meade and go to the barracks by showing my ID to a single guy with a sidearm. I could even drive into the parking lots of the NSA buildings.

A few years later I was going through the area and they had built a bunch of new roads for entry and exit from the base. I didn't know what was what, but my GPS told me to take an exit that really entered into the base. When pulling up to the gate there were at least 10 guards with machine guns trained on me. I explained my GPS error, I got a bunch of shady looks, they had to scan my ID, sniff my car, use under-car mirrors and then keep their guns trained on me as I pulled in 200 feet for the turnaround.

Talk about changes.
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Old 08-06-2011, 07:34 PM   #145
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unfortunately the internet has created a whole generation of dumbass conspiracy theorists that think they know all the secrets and ways of the world because they saw it on youtube.
This is a good point, a lot of people will have difficulty in knowing where to read and if what they're reading is realistic.

If you have found enough pieces of the jigsaw and verified them, eventually you get to the point where you can check if a new piece fits in very quickly, if it doesn't you have enough information to either bin it or put it to one side for the time being.
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Who here hasn't looked up at the sound of a helicopter and thought to himself "I could shoot that down"


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I actually did it last year.. here's a happy snap a mate took of the event.

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The point i was trying to get across is what DWB is saying, its kinda stupid to put elite US forces on a helicopter over Afganistan
yeah I'd make em ride camels if it were up to me.
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I was casually dating a guy who I parted ways with when he was shipped off to be stationed at Diego Garcia. I know all about that place. I was dating him when he was stationed at Fort Meade (NSA).

What I always think is funny is that we dated in 2000. At that time, I could just drive onto Fort Meade and go to the barracks by showing my ID to a single guy with a sidearm. I could even drive into the parking lots of the NSA buildings.

A few years later I was going through the area and they had built a bunch of new roads for entry and exit from the base. I didn't know what was what, but my GPS told me to take an exit that really entered into the base. When pulling up to the gate there were at least 10 guards with machine guns trained on me. I explained my GPS error, I got a bunch of shady looks, they had to scan my ID, sniff my car, use under-car mirrors and then keep their guns trained on me as I pulled in 200 feet for the turnaround.

Talk about changes.
Base security is going to depend on the base, getting to see my daughter when she pulled into Coronado Island on the USS Ronald Reagan was painless, just showed ID's.

Security guards never have a sense of humor, but they don't have lives either
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Excuse me do you know me? No you don't. And yes I have taken part in the political system more than just about anyone else I know. I have volunteered hundreds of hours of my time in shelters. In fact that photo of the dog was taken by me at a German Shepherd rescue. I have opened up my home to dozens of foster dogs and even spent thousands of dollars helping them get back on their feet after getting dumped, neglected, and even beaten by their owners. So don't you feel kind of dumb right about now?

BTW, did you notice that I dedicated my sig to pet rescue? How much money could I have made if I just put some banner there instead? I promote animal rescue every freaking day of my life in any way I am able. You have no fucking idea.
Let me see if I understand this correctly..... Your overly concerned about the US becoming a police state, yet you know nothing about the US Military, have never been in the military, and have no real contact with law enforcement..... You think all Americans are dumb and that all we do is watch Jersey Shore, yet you have never taken part of anything related to your local government.... But you think your in the top 1% of American society because you volunteer at a fucking animal shelter? That's a joke, right?

No, I don't know you. But your the one who came onto GFY ranting about conspiracy theories telling us that we all fit into the 99% of "dumb Americans". You are exactly what you bitched about originally - A dumb American who thinks they know everything while bitching about everything while doing nothing to change anything.

You aren't the solution. Your the problem.
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Let me see if I understand this correctly..... Your overly concerned about the US becoming a police state, yet you know nothing about the US Military, have never been in the military, and have no real contact with law enforcement..... You think all Americans are dumb and that all we do is watch Jersey Shore, yet you have never taken part of anything related to your local government.... But you think your in the top 1% of American society because you volunteer at a fucking animal shelter? That's a joke, right?

No, I don't know you. But your the one who came onto GFY ranting about conspiracy theories telling us that we all fit into the 99% of "dumb Americans". You are exactly what you bitched about originally - A dumb American who thinks they know everything while bitching about everything while doing nothing to change anything.

You aren't the solution. Your the problem.
You obviously did not read my post. Go back and read it. I did not say that I do not know anything about the military or law enforcement and I did not say have I have not taken part in local government. And where did I say I am in the top 1% of society because I volunteer at an animal shelter? Seriously what planet are you from? I think I just found someone who possesses less ability to reason and comprehend than the average porn whore.

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