Content Vs Design - GoFuckYourself.com

Juggernaut · 01-28-2003, 04:32 AM

I think it's all about content, if you deliver crappy content, you won't make the sales. I'm tired of hearing webmasters whine about their designs being poor. People don't care if you use Times New Roman and white backgrounds, as long as you have great content. (Or promote great content example: Up sells, TGP's & MPG's)

If there was a bet on design over content, I'll bet on content. When you market, you market content, not that your site happens to be a cutting edge design. Because frankly, surfers have a dick in one hand and a credit card in another, do you think they give a shit what colour scheme you're using?

The highest traffic web sites have little to no CSS, nor do they use excessive colours or flash. Simplicity, content and ease of navigation = sales. All of you morons popping up shit and aiming at making money through that before making money from your content should be banned from doing so.

On a personal note, all of those retards using flash just to be "cool" need to get a reality check, flash should be kept out of porn sites, it was originally invented to allow webmasters to have more content in a smaller amount of space. Not needed anymore, people have a minimum of 800x600. I have yet to see a flash site that has made more sales based on the flash part of it being significant to it's cause.

Give us all a break and stop making us download large files just to read one or two lines of data. HTML is sufficient, if you do need to animate something, do it with images, it's a lot easier to deal with and a lot more sensible. Not to mention that most people don't have the 500+ MB of RAM most webmasters have. Flash is and probably will always be a resource hog.

Jakke PNG · 01-28-2003, 04:38 AM

Okay. Sorry.

DX · 01-28-2003, 04:39 AM

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do you think they give a shit what colour scheme you're using

Like it or not, colors have a huge psychological impact.

I'll agree with you on the flash though...
In most cases it's very poorly done, and serves no real purpose.

Brujah · 01-28-2003, 04:43 AM

whats wrong with CSS ?

Juggernaut · 01-28-2003, 04:50 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
whats wrong with CSS ?

That's my point! absolutely nothing, you can use a small amount of CSS in your HTML and your page will shine. But I was generally referring to the people that have a huge header image and the big footer image with a lot of other redundant graphics in between, an with this idea in their head that they need some spiffy looking website to make cash, when they don't.

Voodoo · 01-28-2003, 04:55 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut
I think it's all about content, if you deliver crappy content, you won't make the sales. I'm tired of hearing webmasters whine about their designs being poor. People don't care if you use Times New Roman and white backgrounds, as long as you have great content. (Or promote great content example: Up sells, TGP's & MPG's)

If there was a bet on design over content, I'll bet on content. When you market, you market content, not that your site happens to be a cutting edge design. Because frankly, surfers have a dick in one hand and a credit card in another, do you think they give a shit what colour scheme you're using?

The highest traffic web sites have little to no CSS, nor do they use excessive colours or flash. Simplicity, content and ease of navigation = sales. All of you morons popping up shit and aiming at making money through that before making money from your content should be banned from doing so.

On a personal note, all of those retards using flash just to be "cool" need to get a reality check, flash should be kept out of porn sites, it was originally invented to allow webmasters to have more content in a smaller amount of space. Not needed anymore, people have a minimum of 800x600. I have yet to see a flash site that has made more sales based on the flash part of it being significant to it's cause.

Give us all a break and stop making us download large files just to read one or two lines of data. HTML is sufficient, if you do need to animate something, do it with images, it's a lot easier to deal with and a lot more sensible. Not to mention that most people don't have the 500+ MB of RAM most webmasters have. Flash is and probably will always be a resource hog.

So, would you say that MatrixContent is Good Content?

Brujah · 01-28-2003, 04:57 AM

Has anyone done an experiment ?

Week 1: Nicely designed graphical site tour.
Week 2: Lean, clean html/css site tour.

Which converted best ?

Juggernaut · 01-28-2003, 05:08 AM

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Originally posted by Voodoo

So, would you say that MatrixContent is Good Content?

I think Matrix Content is a great content supplier, their images are high quality, a great selection and a fair price. Problem is, that when your content hits the market and is pretty much flooded in every TGP known to man kind, your product, no matter how great, ends up being watered down.

Juggernaut · 01-28-2003, 05:09 AM

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Originally posted by Brujah
Has anyone done an experiment ?

Week 1: Nicely designed graphical site tour.
Week 2: Lean, clean html/css site tour.

Which converted best ?

Brujah, this topic is Content Vs Design, not Design Vs Design.

Brujah · 01-28-2003, 05:20 AM

Ok well I dont' want to play this game anymore. I quit. Meanie.

ThePornNetwork · 01-28-2003, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut
I think it's all about content, if you deliver crappy content, you won't make the sales. I'm tired of hearing webmasters whine about their designs being poor. People don't care if you use Times New Roman and white backgrounds, as long as you have great content. (Or promote great content example: Up sells, TGP's & MPG's)

If there was a bet on design over content, I'll bet on content. When you market, you market content, not that your site happens to be a cutting edge design. Because frankly, surfers have a dick in one hand and a credit card in another, do you think they give a shit what colour scheme you're using?

The highest traffic web sites have little to no CSS, nor do they use excessive colours or flash. Simplicity, content and ease of navigation = sales. All of you morons popping up shit and aiming at making money through that before making money from your content should be banned from doing so.

On a personal note, all of those retards using flash just to be "cool" need to get a reality check, flash should be kept out of porn sites, it was originally invented to allow webmasters to have more content in a smaller amount of space. Not needed anymore, people have a minimum of 800x600. I have yet to see a flash site that has made more sales based on the flash part of it being significant to it's cause.

Give us all a break and stop making us download large files just to read one or two lines of data. HTML is sufficient, if you do need to animate something, do it with images, it's a lot easier to deal with and a lot more sensible. Not to mention that most people don't have the 500+ MB of RAM most webmasters have. Flash is and probably will always be a resource hog.

Translation= "My connection sucks and I need more free porn faster. I will never click on a link anyway so why put them there"

Oh and "Go Fuck Myself"

Juggernaut · 01-28-2003, 05:31 AM

Aww, upset over a little constructive criticism. Did it hit too close to home?

Paul Markham · 01-28-2003, 05:39 AM

Design is important. But it depends on what you call design.

AIDA was something I learnt way back and it still works.

Attention the initial impact, that gets the guys:
Interest to go further and arouse his;
Desire to go into
Action, get his CC out or move in the direction you want.

Now this has to be a mixture of the right images that fit the niche, the correct wording and clear directions.

Unfortunately some designers thinks it's flashy pages with clever Flash and Swish images scrolling on the screen. They are thinking like a designer when they should be thinking like a wanker. Scuse the pun.

But the best design in the world, with the greatest traffic will never make a dog turd smell sweet or sell.

Voodoo · 01-28-2003, 06:01 AM

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Originally posted by Juggernaut

Brujah, this topic is Content Vs Design, not Design Vs Design.

That's what he said tardy.

A slimmed down design will promote the content. Ya gotta read between the lines.

01-28-2003, 04:32 AM	#1
Juggernaut Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 753	Content Vs Design I think it's all about content, if you deliver crappy content, you won't make the sales. I'm tired of hearing webmasters whine about their designs being poor. People don't care if you use Times New Roman and white backgrounds, as long as you have great content. (Or promote great content example: Up sells, TGP's & MPG's) If there was a bet on design over content, I'll bet on content. When you market, you market content, not that your site happens to be a cutting edge design. Because frankly, surfers have a dick in one hand and a credit card in another, do you think they give a shit what colour scheme you're using? The highest traffic web sites have little to no CSS, nor do they use excessive colours or flash. Simplicity, content and ease of navigation = sales. All of you morons popping up shit and aiming at making money through that before making money from your content should be banned from doing so. On a personal note, all of those retards using flash just to be "cool" need to get a reality check, flash should be kept out of porn sites, it was originally invented to allow webmasters to have more content in a smaller amount of space. Not needed anymore, people have a minimum of 800x600. I have yet to see a flash site that has made more sales based on the flash part of it being significant to it's cause. Give us all a break and stop making us download large files just to read one or two lines of data. HTML is sufficient, if you do need to animate something, do it with images, it's a lot easier to deal with and a lot more sensible. Not to mention that most people don't have the 500+ MB of RAM most webmasters have. Flash is and probably will always be a resource hog.

01-28-2003, 04:38 AM	#2
Jakke PNG ex-TeenGodFather Industry Role: Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Suomi Finland Perkele Posts: 20,306	Okay. Sorry. __________________ ..and I'm off.

01-28-2003, 04:43 AM	#4
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	whats wrong with CSS ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-28-2003, 04:57 AM	#7
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Has anyone done an experiment ? Week 1: Nicely designed graphical site tour. Week 2: Lean, clean html/css site tour. Which converted best ? __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-28-2003, 05:20 AM	#10
Brujah Beer Money Baron Industry Role: Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: brujah / gmail Posts: 22,157	Ok well I dont' want to play this game anymore. I quit. Meanie. __________________ Free Premium Domain Lists and Tools at Clickmojo.com For Sale: Obscenity.com

01-28-2003, 05:31 AM	#12
Juggernaut Confirmed User Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Brisbane, Australia Posts: 753	Aww, upset over a little constructive criticism. Did it hit too close to home?

01-28-2003, 05:39 AM	#13
Paul Markham Too old to care Industry Role: Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: On the sofa, watching TV or doing my jigsaws. Posts: 52,943	Design is important. But it depends on what you call design. AIDA was something I learnt way back and it still works. Attention the initial impact, that gets the guys: Interest to go further and arouse his; Desire to go into Action, get his CC out or move in the direction you want. Now this has to be a mixture of the right images that fit the niche, the correct wording and clear directions. Unfortunately some designers thinks it's flashy pages with clever Flash and Swish images scrolling on the screen. They are thinking like a designer when they should be thinking like a wanker. Scuse the pun. But the best design in the world, with the greatest traffic will never make a dog turd smell sweet or sell. __________________ Blowout deal. 880 videos, 2,400 image sets, plus many RAW videos. $500. PM me for a deal. Skype Paulmarkham70