Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18217859)

hey, do y'all think that tabata interval would work running in place? sprint in place 20 seconds, jog in place 20 seconds?

Originally Posted by Shey (Post 18217882)

I don't know but not for me, I like going places... :1orglaugh:1orglaugh:1orglaugh

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18217650)

when i did that PSMF 12 day fast i started that thread about a few weeks ago, i learned that one can go 12 days on this sort of ultra-restricted diet before the metabolism goes into serious shutdown, and that's for peeps with very lof bf, can go longer than 12 days (bt not too much longer) with higher bf %s.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18217938)

I have no doubt you could go that long, but when you started that you were already in really good shape and had a low body fat % and probably a high metabolism to begin with. Almost everyone else, especially the ones asking about weight loss, are carb fiends to begin with. When the average eating person goes from one extreme to the other in that short of a time the body will lock up and go into survival mode much faster than what it took you.

I recall you mentioning that you did next to no exercise during that fasting phase, even walking shortly was tiring for you? What would happen if you tried working out 5 days a week while doing that fast? That's the point I was trying to make anyway.

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18217938)

I have no doubt you could go that long, but when you started that you were already in really good shape and had a low body fat % and probably a high metabolism to begin with. Almost everyone else, especially the ones asking about weight loss, are carb fiends to begin with. When the average eating person goes from one extreme to the other in that short of a time the body will lock up and go into survival mode much faster than what it took you.

I recall you mentioning that you did next to no exercise during that fasting phase, even walking shortly was tiring for you? What would happen if you tried working out 5 days a week while doing that fast? That's the point I was trying to make anyway.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18217859)

hey, do y'all think that tabata interval would work running in place? sprint in place 20 seconds, jog in place 20 seconds?

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18218006)

I've been on a modified Lean gains intermittent fasting routine for about 3 months now. Eating during an 8 hour window. With the only working out is 1.5 to 2 hours of Brazillian Jiu Jitsu 3 to 5 times a week. Last time I counted, I don't go over 2200 calories a day. On cheat days, I might hit 3000 calories, but they are few and far between.

The human body was made to survive off of limited calories. My walking weight before I started was between 250 to 260, it's now 220 to 230's. I'm never hungry, nor do I get hunger pains eating the way I do.

Here's a great site that explains the nuances of IF.
http://thesameffect.com/my-experienc...ttent-fasting/

Originally Posted by PR_Glen (Post 18218064)

huge difference between 2200 calories a day and 1100 ;) I was referring to the 1100.

I agree that the body was made to be able to survive those circumstances but we aren't talking about survival, we are talking about being healthy here. Just because you survive the extremes doesn't mean you aren't damaging your heart in the process.

for the record i don't think your diet is extreme, it's pretty sensible from what you have said. Thanks for the link.

Originally Posted by Shey (Post 18217434)

Damn girl, that is good but you have to have some serious self control. I could do it but I would not be able to follow it too long. How long did you have to be on it before you lost the lbs?

The main problem with me is that I need flavor and diversity so I'm first going to try phase one of South Beach for a couple weeks and see how that treats me but as soon as the weight scale levels and I stop dropping weight I'll have to go more drastic.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18214967)

the absolute best diet i have found that fits into a social lifestyle is daily intermittent fasting.

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18218006)

I've been on a modified Lean gains intermittent fasting routine for about 3 months now.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218046)

It works for anything, as long as you go full intensity. You can 20/20 to start, but try to work up to 20/10 for max effectiveness. That rest period of 10 should be not much motion at all.

Try burpees also. But with your knee problem that might be an issue. I have a right knee nagging injury, and I do a lot of eliptical and rowing. Low impact and gets the job done. You can "Tabata" those also.



I tried this the other day, and had to lay down gasping for air for about 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18218218)

:winkwink:



/
fucking burpees! yes.. ima try this. thx!

Originally Posted by jimmycooper (Post 18218490)

Simple. Just try to get 30-35 grams of fiber per day.

It works because high fiber foods are healthy and tend to be filling, so you won't get hungry very often. Not only that, but trying to eat more of something is psychologically less difficult than trying to eat less.

Combine that with 15-20 minutes of high intensity interval training.

Then adjust as necessary. If you're working out more, set a goal for protein intake.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18218218)

:winkwink:



/
fucking burpees! yes.. ima try this. thx!

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218302)

be ready to hate life for a few minutes.

Originally Posted by Anthony (Post 18218624)

For warm ups at BJJ we do the following in 10 reps, 3 sets.

10 Burpees
10 Squat Jumps
10 Mountain Climbers

30 second rest.

I hate life after.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18218694)

these are insane exercises- p90x includes these exercises in their plyometrics routine, only 30 second blasts though. no probs with my knee, i just make sure and land toes 1st, using my natural puma-like reflexes.

tabata style looks serious. i wonder if you can actually burn a significant # of calories from 4 minutes of exercise though? from what i've read about HIIT, while effective, it still must be done in that fat burning window, 25 minutes minimum.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218725)

string together a few 8 round sessions equaling at least 15 to 20 minutes.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218046)

I tried this the other day, and had to lay down gasping for air for about 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18215285)

nspired by the Holy Scripture verse Ezekiel 4:9., "Take also unto thee Wheat, and Barley, and beans, and lentils, and millet, and Spelt, and put them in one vessel, and make bread of it..."

Ezekiel 4:9® Organic Sprouted Whole Grain Products are:

Flourless,
Organic,
Complete Protein,
and Sprouted Whole Grain

We discovered when these six grains and legumes are sprouted and combined, an amazing thing happens. A complete protein is created that closely parallels the protein found in milk and eggs. In fact, the protein quality is so high, that it is 84.3% as efficient as the highest recognized source of protein, containing all 9 essential amino acids. There are 18 amino acids present in this unique bread ? from all vegetable sources ? naturally balanced in nature.

Ezekiel 4:9® Bread, made from freshly sprouted organically grown grains, is naturally flavorful and bursting with nutrients. Rich in protein, vitamins, minerals and natural fiber with no added fat. Try it served warm to release its exceptionally rich nutty flavor.

This Biblical Bread is Truly the Staff of Life

http://www.answerfitness.com/wp-cont...rain_Bread.jpg

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18218858)

i think i'm going to start doing these, a 4 minute session, if i can even do that.

can you imagine the shape you'd be in when you can string together 8 of these?



ridunkulous workout right there!

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218868)

The thing is, if you could do 8 of them it probably means you're not going full intensity.

One is good if you go max. I've done 3 rounds at the most, but I have to admit I wasn't going full steam by the end. It was definitely a good workout.

Sprints are the worst. Just killer.

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18218865)

The Bible's also spot on regarding NO FAT (Leviticus) and also NO EATING OF BLOOD. Both of these cause high cholesterol.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218046)

It works for anything, as long as you go full intensity. You can 20/20 to start, but try to work up to 20/10 for max effectiveness. That rest period of 10 should be not much motion at all.

Try burpees also. But with your knee problem that might be an issue. I have a right knee nagging injury, and I do a lot of eliptical and rowing. Low impact and gets the job done. You can "Tabata" those also.



I tried this the other day, and had to lay down gasping for air for about 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by $5 submissions (Post 18218884)

THose are some SERIOUS burpees. Works out your arms, your chest, your legs, and lots of cardio. I'm gonna give it a shot. I've been doing only running and push ups and sit ups right now.

Originally Posted by dyna mo (Post 18218873)

isn't a combo ideal? do 5-10 minutes of HIIT then go lower intensity for 20 minutes or so?

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218916)

My workout plan is to not have a plan.

Originally Posted by bronco67 (Post 18218046)

It works for anything, as long as you go full intensity. You can 20/20 to start, but try to work up to 20/10 for max effectiveness. That rest period of 10 should be not much motion at all.

Try burpees also. But with your knee problem that might be an issue. I have a right knee nagging injury, and I do a lot of eliptical and rowing. Low impact and gets the job done. You can "Tabata" those also.



I tried this the other day, and had to lay down gasping for air for about 5 minutes.

Originally Posted by Imortyl Pussycat (Post 18218106)

took longer than it should have due to cheating :1orglaugh the booze would throw it off the worst and that was only a weekend occurance (that would have a ripple effect for 2 or 3 more days). South Beach is an awesome diet and basically what I had posted for food...small portions eaten often that include lean meats, fresh veggies and fruits and lots of water. don't go too heavy on the fruits at first because of the sugar but later, the fruit will help keep your system functioning healthy. add in movement you didnt have before outside of the gym... i added dancing it out at lunchtime to tech mixes and an extra walk each evening. the little extra really helped. if you dont already, just add in one more stroll for the baby at a certain time of day you can commit to, he will love it too. set a reasonble goal so you dont get frustrated and throw in the towel..give yourself 5 weeks and be stoked when it happens faster :)