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Old 06-10-2011, 04:15 AM   #51
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They go up and down and longterm "hopefully" are still worth promoting.

I cant fig how you can send 30,000 hits tho with one sale. Is that their count. Actually 60,000 hits if it is. You should be able to send 60,000 skim hits and get at least one sale.

That is some seriously bad traffic.

Maybe they are saturated. They need another new GF type site. Their tours are great BUT folks have already been pitched a million times on their main two GF sites.

But noone is investing in new sites which is really the tell tale sign that this industry is in trouble.

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Old 06-10-2011, 04:39 AM   #52
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it's on every Tube now
Their content can be found in plenty of other pay sites too, like gamelink and video box
why pay $30 for a membership
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Old 06-10-2011, 04:54 AM   #53
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it's on every Tube now
Their content can be found in plenty of other pay sites too, like gamelink and video box
why pay $30 for a membership
Maybe that's it. Content is all over.

They need a new (straight) site or 2. That is what always kept them going. They would get a new site with a first class tour and it would sell well for a long while then another site would be released and good sales would continue.

Maybe they feel if they build a new site it will just be all over the place so why bother. Their tours and new content prob are not too cheap.

You would think with an army of affils waiting on a new site it would be worth it but maybe not.

No new sites is the prob.

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Old 06-10-2011, 05:21 AM   #54
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i think it is the tube style tours.
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Old 06-10-2011, 06:31 AM   #55
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This may come as a shock to some but I have had 3 days in a row of conversations with my bank reps as I have caught them moving funds from one account to another, money disappearing, shuffling of the transaction order,etc.

Being that banks and billing companies work hand in hand, there could be a connection.

Contrast that with ridiculously low stats, and the picture becomes clear.... we are in a bankrupted economy and those whom our funds pass through banks, billing companies, credit card companies are forced as a measure of desperation to generate fees, funds, revenue by any means necessary.

I think we are now living in a time where your surfers valid BILLING DETAILS and CREDIT CARD INFO are worth more to some billing companies than the $29.95 monthly membership you charge is worth to you.

hypothetically the biller could conceivably find themselves in a situation where they have to ask themselves this...

which will keep us in business longer...
a. processing customers credit cards for webmasters and only making 10-15% of the sale

b.Allow the customer to submit credit card details...but then see to it submission is declined for customer and merchant but you the biller retain 100% valid credit card info that could be sold later for much more than $29.95

This ensures the biller makes money off of your sweat, and no red flags are raised except high declines.

c. Approving all of your valid join form submissions, which would mean they watch you make thousands a day while they only make hundreds

there are too many people as of late reporting unusually low sales,stats anomalies, and banking chicanery...thats just a reflection of the desperate times we are in.

You must ask yourself if so many are seeing 0/20,000 stats or 1/30,000 and the billers only get a fraction of your completed sale....HOW THE HELL ARE THE Billers GETTING BY??
This ain't the first time i read this.

Makes sence (damn it)
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Old 06-10-2011, 07:23 AM   #56
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i was at like 1:90k with AFF at one point...
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Old 06-10-2011, 09:18 AM   #57
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I blame tube sites and Paul M
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Old 06-10-2011, 10:26 AM   #58
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This may come as a shock to some but I have had 3 days in a row of conversations with my bank reps as I have caught them moving funds from one account to another, money disappearing, shuffling of the transaction order,etc.

Being that banks and billing companies work hand in hand, there could be a connection.

Contrast that with ridiculously low stats, and the picture becomes clear.... we are in a bankrupted economy and those whom our funds pass through banks, billing companies, credit card companies are forced as a measure of desperation to generate fees, funds, revenue by any means necessary.

I think we are now living in a time where your surfers valid BILLING DETAILS and CREDIT CARD INFO are worth more to some billing companies than the $29.95 monthly membership you charge is worth to you.

hypothetically the biller could conceivably find themselves in a situation where they have to ask themselves this...

which will keep us in business longer...
a. processing customers credit cards for webmasters and only making 10-15% of the sale

b.Allow the customer to submit credit card details...but then see to it submission is declined for customer and merchant but you the biller retain 100% valid credit card info that could be sold later for much more than $29.95

This ensures the biller makes money off of your sweat, and no red flags are raised except high declines.

c. Approving all of your valid join form submissions, which would mean they watch you make thousands a day while they only make hundreds

there are too many people as of late reporting unusually low sales,stats anomalies, and banking chicanery...thats just a reflection of the desperate times we are in.

You must ask yourself if so many are seeing 0/20,000 stats or 1/30,000 and the billers only get a fraction of your completed sale....HOW THE HELL ARE THE Billers GETTING BY??
you're an idiot and if I were a biller, I'd close your account.
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:01 PM   #59
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1:8k here......
for me its normal 1:400 / 1:500
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Old 06-10-2011, 12:06 PM   #60
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you're an idiot and if I were a biller, I'd close your account.
Agreed. Probably the most retarded thing I've read on GFY this month.
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Old 06-10-2011, 01:54 PM   #61
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:16 PM   #62
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this isn't about why ratios are bad in general, it's about why ratios were bad for a handful of days only, they're doing better for me again. i figure it had to be a billing thing that lasted about a week.
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Old 06-10-2011, 02:23 PM   #63
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:01 PM   #64
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anyone notice an improvement yet?
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Old 06-19-2011, 07:18 PM   #65
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still bad here. Looking things over.. GF Revenge..

- The tour still looks good. Great looking tour.

- $4.95 2 day trial (didnt someone say they used to be $1 trial - altho that has been several months back as it has been $4.95 for a while I think

- 24.95 - didnt they used to be 23.95? anyhow that should be ok you would think

- they have a two page signup process - didnt they used to have one page? not sure but thought it was one page before

- second page of the signup process is very easy, only cc info needed which seems good

- seem to have a new biller but not sure

That's about all I can see...

Really sucks tho. I need ND to sell.

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Old 06-20-2011, 12:00 PM   #66
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They're going from bad to worse for me
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Old 06-20-2011, 12:12 PM   #67
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you're an idiot and if I were a biller, I'd close your account.
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Glad someone said it
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Old 06-20-2011, 02:53 PM   #68
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problem ND is one of the best sponsors out there so everyone wants to use them plus they pay like clockwork. i mean it just gets oversaturated especially in times like these when you don't know if you are going to get paid.

that being said this year ND stats are:
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Old 06-20-2011, 06:54 PM   #69
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:09 PM   #70
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hmm that's good news. Over the years with them when one thing didn't sell something else would (in general - no rhyme or reason or basis, just seems that way) so maybe I'll throw a few hits at Fling again. Thanks
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Old 06-20-2011, 07:47 PM   #71
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My mobile rations went to shit lately, I just checked some of the mobile galleries with my phone and they were all Error 400 Bad Request


http://emulator.mtld.mobi/emulator.p...&Submit=Submit

They work fine in a browser

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