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Old 01-25-2003, 05:58 PM   #51
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Old 01-25-2003, 05:58 PM   #52
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Let's see- by 1997 I'd been involved with the Net for 4 years (Usenet newsgroup alt.sex.voyeurism), the Web for 2 (www.iiiii.com) and my on-line video business was 3 years old.
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I actually had my first (non-adult) web site up and running in 1995...

Ahhh... the good old days.... when my web editor was Notepad
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:14 PM   #55
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Let's see- by 1997 I'd been involved with the Net for 4 years (Usenet newsgroup alt.sex.voyeurism), the Web for 2 (www.iiiii.com) and my on-line video business was 3 years old.
FiveEyes! I know you. Do you remember Roze?

I owned the Voyeur Playground back then.

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I actually had my first (non-adult) web site up and running in 1995...

Ahhh... the good old days.... when my web editor was Notepad
You mean there's something better than notepad now?


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Old 01-25-2003, 06:17 PM   #57
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I actually had my first (non-adult) web site up and running in 1995...

Ahhh... the good old days.... when my web editor was Notepad
Tera, what do you mean, "was" Notepad - that's what I still use.
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I'll tell you, when I was running the Voyeur Playground site, ...
Is that Roz? If so, blast from the past man! How's your dad doing these days?
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FiveEyes! I know you. Do you remember Roze?

I owned the Voyeur Playground back then.

Right, Roze, I'd forgotten the 'e'. Drop me a note at [email protected], guy.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:23 PM   #62
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In 97 I was only 19. It was one year since I graduated high school and I had a reaaaaaaally crappy job telemarketing. I'm getting ill just thinking about it. Back then I didn't even have a computer yet and I was still living at home. It was getting so bad living at home (my mom was treating me like I was 12 and following me everywhere I went) so one day I packed up and went to my boyfriend's house and never came back home. If only I started selling porn back then, I heard some folks where making a small fortune!
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:24 PM   #63
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Is that Roz? If so, blast from the past man! How's your dad doing these days?
My dad's doing well! He's actually working for me these days.

How are things going for you!? Long time no speak!

I don't do much in the voyeur area these days, but I would like to chat with you about some things if you ever have time.

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Old 01-25-2003, 06:27 PM   #64
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Great thread, FletchXXX!!!

It's like a damn family reunion in here!

Now all I need to make this the best thread in history is for Dave S., formerly of Pure Hardcore to drop by and say hello!!

I haven't talked to him in years! Dave, where are you man????

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Old 01-25-2003, 06:38 PM   #66
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Where was I in '97?

I was on the computer trying to figure out how to use the Internet.
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Old 01-25-2003, 06:43 PM   #67
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Junior at ASU. Just turned 21. Lived with my friend Dave right off of Mill Avenue, (5th and Hardy) in a 2 story townhouse

I remember the schedule:

Mon. Bladderbusters at Bojos
Tue. Andersons
Wed. Palapas
Thurs. you name it, Club Rio mostly
Fri. Date night
Sat. you name it, mostly Club Rio still
Sun. Close all of the curtains, rent movies and order pizza. Try to leave the house as little as possible on Sundays

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Old 01-25-2003, 06:49 PM   #68
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My dad's doing well! He's actually working for me these days.

How are things going for you!? Long time no speak!

I don't do much in the voyeur area these days, but I would like to chat with you about some things if you ever have time.

Oh hell yeah! I'm doing just fine, other than letting myself get involved in talk shows every once in awhile. (word of advice to readers, DON'T DO IT!)

That messageboard group I got from you is still active, btw, with about 1,500 members involved at this point. Very few of the original group left but it's still the only place serious voys get together.

Glad to hear that about your dad, he's cool!

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Old 01-25-2003, 07:33 PM   #70
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In '97 I was a radio DJ and a friend told me how easy it was to make a few bucks a day on the internet. I had been online for years with Compuserve, AOL and Prodigy but didn't know shit about websites. I think it was March or April when I put a shitty Adult Check site up on some free host. It was months before I used anyone besides Adult Check. Then my first sponsors were Max Cash, Fresh Teens and of course XPics.

I never was big into the boards back then. I used YNot to find hosting, sponsors, etc. but it was years until I saw the value of reading/posting on any message boards besides Adult Check's.
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Old 01-25-2003, 07:35 PM   #71
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My bf and I started running sites in '97. We had a bunch of stolen adult content on our BBS before that. That made us a grand total of $2! I had just turned 18 at the end of '96.

Anyway we were sitting in a college computer classroom and my bf found a password for Adult Check. Well he used it for awhile and eventually it was cancelled. We didn't have a credit card so we decided to make an adult site, on Tripod with stolen pictures from our BBS, to get a free Adult Check password. For awhile we just tried to win the Adult Check $200 prize by finding exploited AC password and cancelling them on site. Well, that didn't work and eventually we started adveristing our Tripod sites all over Usenet. A couple of posts could get 5 or 6 credits a pop. When one Tripod site would get taken down we'd put 2 up in it's place. Eventually we found a relatively cheap host and when we had a domain we really started getting money. The rest is history.
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97......... lets see here... in the summer of that year I got injured while working in the ER of the hospital that I'd worked at for nearly 15 years. That autumn I got off my ass and started taking some computer courses.

'98 -- I got myself a work-experience position at a local ISP, where I caught the first glimpse of a professional webmaster at work. I was there to learn the technical aspects of high-speed internet connectivity and to sell ISDN connections to local businesses. I also helped set up a wireless internet link between two downtown buildings,... Winnipeg's first wireless ISP actually. :D

'99 -- Jan-Feb was when I bought my first new computer and began developing what is now www.cdsmodels.com "CD's Models on the Web", and I've been cranking out new sites and galleries ever since. This is also the year that I took up photography and began recruiting amateur models locally.


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'97 dead broke and pissed off. Still in school getting excellent grades, all the while smoking weed/hash on weekends. Didn't have internet access until two years later.
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Old 01-25-2003, 09:15 PM   #74
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In 97/98 I was a Sr. Engineer for MCI and was doing programming for adult webmasters on the side. Continued to work with a few clients doing projects over the years. Helped write some cool scripts that are probably making some people a lot of money today

In Nov. 2001 I got laid off as an engineer, and took about 6 months off work, then started programming and working in the adult biz full time in March 2002. Even went to my first Internext this year. I do remember all the pissing on the boards back then, but never really paid attention to who was doing it all until recently


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In 1997 I got kicked off my ISPs webspace, got my own domain name and became the Webs First Asian Amateur.
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From another thread.



http://gofuckyourself.com/showthread...hreadid=102552

Instead of taking over Amps thread, I started a new one.

Gman brings up a good point. How many affiliate programs have 'Since 96, since 97' on them, but they brand new hahahaha

I see many people say they started in 1997.

What did you do in 1997?

I set up Live cams in New Orleans for an early paysite doing a 'Dorm Room' cam hiring girls and paying them to sit on cam as if it was a dorm... the site went bankrupt and i moved to California. It was no loss for me, I was paid up front and kept all the equipment.

I then helped start the first 'Free Internet Cafe' there, installing a t1 for 6 boxes of free use at a coffee shot in an Art Museum, with donations from local companies and art centers, along with the famous 'Bourbocam' on Bourbon Street in New Orleans above the 'Cats Meow' Club... This was from 97 - 98. I hadnt gotten into 'webmasterin' yet, but would eventually.

Where were you?

Lets hear it old timers.

Doing irix sysadmin work for disney fa in burbank. what a fuck job that was.
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Old 01-26-2003, 12:53 AM   #77
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I was here in 94. But I must be stupid cuzz I am not the richest one around And I chose Cyberzine.com over girls.com LOL
cuzz dont you know a cyber magazine is sooo much betetr than girls.com I sumitted to yahoo when Jerry and David were still at stanford and the address was akebono.stanford.edu not yahoo.com. But since I have a small penis its all for not.
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1997, I started taking naked digital pics of my girlfriend at the time, then another girl I started seeing a new girls and took A LOT of pictures of her.

I was downloading my porn off newsgroups, subscribed to a site or two, and bought my first AVS password through AdultCheck, I believe.

Thought about starting a site, and got intimidated by the logistics--looking back, I should have figured out a way to do it, because it seems that the market was much less crowded then.

But 1997 does sound like like a credible time to get in--anything before then, and the list of people in the web biz was pretty short.

I think I bought my first CD from RWB in 96, may've even been late 95... They are one of the first companies I can think of who were on the web back in the day--did they even have a site back then? Ijust remember ordering the CD-ROM.
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in 97 i was working in an experimental department with a very large and well known telecommunications company.
looking back I would probably say that was the best year of my life so far. I met my wife that year....drove cross country to meet her and bring her back to my state....and i was making more money than i ever had previously....life was good back then
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in 97 i was teaching computer skills to senior citizens and displaced housewives at a learning facility. i'd been making webpages for over a year and managed to win Geek of the Week for a women's portal site i ran. within the next year, the learning center closed, hotwired ezine closed and i switched to porn.
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I actually had my first (non-adult) web site up and running in 1995...

Ahhh... the good old days.... when my web editor was Notepad
I did it one year later... if only then I realized what would have happened if I had gone commercial........
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I was living in the US since 1996 and on Mardis Gras 97 I met Lance and Oasis who did already run the Oasis amateur site. They became good friends and because I was a computer programmer I thought damn its easy enough to do websites. I remember how easy it was to start up these days. They offered me a space on their server but I outgrew their traffic fast and got my own server early in 98.
I also still use Notepad and use Visual Basic to program page making utilities. I would love those easy times back where people just did nice traffic trades and nobody seems envy of the success others had. Only a few scammers were in business (XPIC comes in mind) and live was beautiful.
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they say since 1997 cuz in 1996 there was only a handful of us and we'd know you were bullshitting =)
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I was living in the US since 1996 and on Mardis Gras 97 I met Lance and Oasis ...
OH OH! Another blast from the past, that!

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they say since 1997 cuz in 1996 there was only a handful of us and we'd know you were bullshitting =)

My first site was Eve's Bedroom, late 1995 ;)

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Oh hell yeah! I'm doing just fine, other than letting myself get involved in talk shows every once in awhile. (word of advice to readers, DON'T DO IT!)

That messageboard group I got from you is still active, btw, with about 1,500 members involved at this point. Very few of the original group left but it's still the only place serious voys get together.

Glad to hear that about your dad, he's cool!

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Five, I'll give you a call, bro! WHen is good for you?

Hit me up on ICQ (check my profile), and let me know! I'll have to tell the ol man I ran into you! He'll get a kick out of it.

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Just got out of community college and entered a real college to get my bach degree in animation......

would be 2 more years before I made my very first "adult check" site as an experiment (but it did well....I was making $650 a week from it and it wasnt even a gold site!!!)
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Haha.. Just had a similar conversation a couple of days ago with a mate of mine who started at the same time as me. We couldn't remember if we started in 97 or 98, but I remember doing this part time regardless for at least 6 or 7 months before I quit my day job.

I ran with a paid virtual hosting in Sweden using a subfolder (no domain name) for about a year, started out by using my own shot content. Yahoo was not paid to be listed and AltaVista - You could submit a new site and would be listed the next day, spidered every 24 hours.
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I did free sites on my ISP's webspace and cheated SE's.
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Who remembers the old (yahoo) submission trick? ;)

THOSE were the good old days!
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Hah 1997 ...... i was spamming AOL.
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FlyingIguana - Wanna hear a funny Yahoo story from late '96? My very first site was a celeb site. Yes, I was one of the unedumacated who started without licensed content. I had a site with Pamela Anderson, Madonna, Bo Derek, and other assorted celebs. I made the site just for practice and tried submitting it to a few SE's and all of a sudden it started getting traffic after a few days. After the site had been up for about 5 days I found this new site called YNOT and found out I could actually make money with my site lol. I put up a few banners for some sponsor that I can't remember (Sex Museum?) and started making money! I was getting about 1000 hits a day and was making something like $20 a day. I looked at Yahoo and saw that they did not have a celeb category. I found a phone number on the contact page and called. I told the lady who answered that I needed to get a site listed and she transferred me to some guy. I told him that I had a site about celebrities that I wanted to get listed. He said there was no celeb category and that he could add me to the general adult category. I asked if he could create a new directory and he said that if I had a pic of Kathy Ireland he would. As luck would have it I had found a semi-nude pic of Kathy Ireland that morning and told the guy where to find it. The next day there was a Celeb category on Yahoo lol. The first day I got something like 90k uniques. My local host that I had my virtual page on called me and said I needed to get a domain and regular hosting. I registered OAD.com (I was going to add a celeb pic a day and call the site Once A Day) and asked some of the people on YNOT where to get hosting. Khan hooked me up with some Kiwi in Florida who had good hosting. I called the guy at Yahoo a couple of days later and got him to point the link to my new domain. For almost 2 months I was the only link in the Celeb section. I was getting around 85k uniques a day and sending most of it to Babylon-X and a few others. Less than 3 weeks after I started my site I received a check for $10k. I kept it a free celeb site for about 3 months then changed it over to a toplist with no content in Febuary or March of '97. By then Yahoo had added about 10 more links to the Celeb section and my traffic was down to about 40k a day or so but that helped fuel my toplist and make me a lot of money that year. By the beginning of '98 there were a couple hundred sites in the celeb category on Yahoo and I was down to about 5k a day. I ran the toplist for another year then sold it for $25k in mid '99. To this day oad.com still comes up in the top 10 when you do a search for "nude celebs" on Yahoo. Last I heard it was still getting about 2k hits a day from Yahoo.

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Great story man! LOL You'd get your ass suid bigtime now, when you get 90k on a site with unlicensed celeb content.

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Old 01-26-2003, 04:03 AM   #93
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Who remembers the old (yahoo) submission trick? ;)

THOSE were the good old days!
I'm not sure about that one. What was it?
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Old 01-26-2003, 04:10 AM   #94
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You could submit to Yahoo and next to your email addy you would put (yahoo) which was the insider trick for an express submission, usually 24 hours and never denied!
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You could submit to Yahoo and next to your email addy you would put (yahoo) which was the insider trick for an express submission, usually 24 hours and never denied!
Ok... I don't think I knew about that one.

I remember there was a way to email a certain address at Yahoo that wasn't widely known, but doing so got your submission immediate attention, and you usually heard back from a representative within 48 hours. They used to have the email address on the site, but it was really hard to find. A friend of mine back then pulled my coat to it, and sure enough it did work.

I never really submitted much to the search engines and never coded my sites with a lot of meta info back then, but for some reason I always got high rankings on Altavista, Lycos, and Magellan (I think that was the name). At one point, I was receiving 15,000 hits to one of my sites from the search engines. I remember joining CE's "High Rollers" program and just making a killing with the 50 cents per click sliding scale ratio.

Good times. Good times.
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Old 01-26-2003, 04:36 AM   #96
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Five, I'll give you a call, bro! WHen is good for you?

Hit me up on ICQ (check my profile), and let me know! I'll have to tell the ol man I ran into you! He'll get a kick out of it.

Talk to you soon!

Don't do ICQ, I type too slow and it get's me nervous. Call anytime but mornings, CDT (later the better, I'm a night owl). Have something working for Mardi Gras this year you might could get into...

Tell your dad "HI!" and all. I get a big smile still from thinking about way-back-when with the "cat walking across the bed" in that video. Good stuff that! Still have the tape...
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Old 01-26-2003, 05:40 AM   #97
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Wow do I have a friggin history. What a great ride, maybe some day I'll do a biography on this shit...

In 1995, I was doing a site called Cyberbabes, some of you might have heard of it. I was also in grad school, faculty at the University of Miami as an instructor (I was a professor to professors and grad students on CIS), and on staff at a local ISP/design house called Guru Communications. They liked me because I added credibility to their services. I remember my first corporate site I worked on was for Bombardier (Sea-doo.com and Ski-doo.com). Anyway, Cyberbabes was a free site plugging mostly Decadence, and I was really good friends with them. Once day I was out in Vegas and I met a porn star that had a dungeon and I came up with the idea of wiring it for live. Back then you didn't have commercially available streaming solutions, so we had to buy a beast Sparc and run it with Decadence's solution. Then the porn star went psycho and dropped them. We found two other buyers, NTL, which is now Video Secrets, and Webpower, at the time Amateurs.com, then Fastporn and now IFriends.

For a time in 1997, we were probably the biggest per minute video company there was. We had studios in Vegas and Philly and did backends for pretty much everybody, including Pornication. Life was good.

I remember all you old guys. It was Amber from ARG that got me to my first webmaster show. I did every Adultdex from the early 90's when I used to sell CD-Rom's. I have pics of Zmaster's founder Lee Noga getting an AMEE award at the Adultdex. I remember calling KMan when he lived in barracks. I remember meeting DMan (PLR) in the Monte Carlo whilst asking girls if they did anal.

I'm going to start a thread of people I would cast for my biography.

Needless to say, we've done really well so far on this interweb thingy. Now BUY MY CONTENT!
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I remember all you old guys. It was Amber from ARG that got me to my first webmaster show. I did every Adultdex from the early 90's when I used to sell CD-Rom's. I have pics of Zmaster's founder Lee Noga getting an AMEE award at the Adultdex. I remember calling KMan when he lived in barracks. I remember meeting DMan (PLR) in the Monte Carlo whilst asking girls if they did anal.

I'm going to start a thread of people I would cast for my biography.
Too funny Mike...you and K-Man are among the few that knows me as "Amber of ARG" (although it's still my company, it's not what most associate me with ;>).

Mike, you were the first person Rett and I met 'in person' on the internet side of porn - do you remember - it was before any IA's at the East Coast Video show in Atlantic City...I think in 95...or was it 96? And to think, I'm STILL kicking your ass in air-hockey (bumps and bruises aside)!!

K-man...awww yes, the barracks - I remember those late night calls well! In fact, I still have the first picture you ever sent to me and Rett...of your dick! lol

Lars, what do you mean that you're, "not the richest one around"?! ? dude, I've seen your car and I'm not buying it!

And the first person to ever send me traffic...was Serge!

Who is the first person that ever hooked you up with traffic??
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Wow.. 97 huh?

97 i think i was busy hazing pledges in our college fraternity and trying to figure out how an old "junior" like me could still scam freshman pussy.

If only i had owned a PC and a camera back then ;-)
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In early 1997, I was reading alot about Adultcheck, and articles about AVSs, while I was working at a Microbiology lab in Gainesville, Florida.

Later that year, I brought up my first AVS site. It was an Adultcheck Regular site gothic/fetish/bdsm/dom focused. I was a noob to the industry, and it was before I learned a few things, so, my site of course had 100% stolen content on it. ;) Alot of it came from the Gothic Babe of the Week site. LOL

I soon realized, that stolen content was a bad idea, as my phone would not stop ringing with pissed off goth girls calling me from every corner of the U.S.

So, I purchased some licensed stuff, and kept it going. I started site design with my first html tag back in 1991. Prior to that, I did a few graphics and animation projects for Apple Computers in San Jose, California using a Mac Plus, and a MacII prototype.

That's about it though.
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