FSC (Tries!) Explains New Porn Performer Health System

[JustDaveXxx]

From Yahoo.com

LOS ANGELES ? Porn performers will soon be given a list of recommended health care providers for their frequent sexually transmitted disease testing, and results will be fed into a new industry database, according to a porn trade group.

Free Speech Coalition Executive Director Diane Duke said Thursday her group will oversee the database as part of a new program intended to fill the gap created by the closure of Adult Industry Medical Health Care Foundation earlier this month.

"We will be able to provide a list of recommended providers to our performers and ensure they will have sensitivity to the client base that we?d be bringing to these providers," Duke said at a news conference.
Known as the AIM clinic, the shuttered San Fernando Valley facility was a preferred medical provider for many performers in the multibillion-dollar porn industry, providing a discreet environment for frequent HIV and STD tests.
The Free Speech Coalition?s program to replace AIM, known as Adult Production Health and Safety Services, won?t open a new clinic.

"Unfortunately, the FSC is not in a position to set up a medical facility or a clinic," said board member Christian Mann, who is also a general manager at Evil Angel Video. "One of the things we learned from the closure of AIM is to avoid overreaching."
Within a week, Duke said, performers will be provided a list of labs and clinics where they can get testing and have their results fed into the database.

The password-protected database allows actors and producers to track whether performers have been diagnosed with gonorrhea, chlamydia or if they are HIV positive.

The database will tell users whether an actor is available to work or not, depending on whether they have any of the sexually transmitted infections the system tracks.

The system makes an exception for HIV-positive gay performers who still work in sex scenes while using condoms.
Former Los Angeles County STD program director Dr. Gary Richwald is serving the trade group as a consultant and says the group is now reaching out to medical providers with education to ensure sex performers aren?t treated with insensitivity and hostility for their work.

"It?s not what you say, but how you say it," Richwald said about a doctor?s responsibility to advise a performer of the risks they face in porn. "We also want to provide assurance that the tests being done (at recommended medical providers) are the best tests available."

The AIM clinic was forced to close permanently earlier this month following a series of controversies.
After porn actor Derrick Burts was diagnosed HIV-positive there in December, state and local officials said the clinic failed to cooperate with their investigation into other possible infections. Burts said that instead of getting information from the clinic on how to get follow-up care, he was told to avoid media, change his phone number and leave town.

The clinic was also accused of medical privacy violations after patient information appeared on a website in the run-up to its closure.

Kink.com founder and FSC board member Peter Acworth has led the database development and said his experience thwarting hackers on his site played into developing a secure environment for the performer?s information.
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Yea they neglect to write how much this bullshit will cost. FUCK FSC for thinking we as an industry are so stupid!!


$150 per test

$50 a year per performer

$250 a year per producer


How about fuck you!!! Im going to Talent Testing!!

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

$150 per test

$50 a year per performer

$250 a year per producer

How about fuck you!!! Im going to Talent Testing!!

Unreal. Once again we see why everyone who is actually IN the porn biz thinks so poorly of the FSC

[sponsorpimp]

I guess the $150 test will be done before the shoot AND after the shoot. Sooner or later the performers will expect the producers to pay for it. wtf

[DWB]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Yea they neglect to write how much this bullshit will cost. FUCK FSC for thinking we as an industry are so stupid!!

$150 per test

$50 a year per performer

$250 a year per producer


How about fuck you!!! Im going to Talent Testing!!

What a joke. Seriously.

As everyone with a brain expected, and like almost everything else they touch, this is going to fail.

[MaDalton]

i am not 100% sure, but over here a test costs something between $70-$90, there's an online database and it actually tests for everything incl. hepatitis b&c - just saying

[merina0803]

[Grapesoda]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i am not 100% sure, but over here a test costs something between $70-$90, there's an online database and it actually tests for everything incl. hepatitis b&c - just saying

I'll fly over and test tonight!!!

[Redrob]

STUDIO CITY, Calif.?Just over 50 members of the adult movie and internet community met today at the Sportsman's Lodge, site of many past such meetings, at the invitation of the Free Speech Coalition (FSC) to discuss the future of healthcare services for adult productions in the wake of the bankruptcy and subsequent closing of AIM Medical Associates, the industry's primary STI testing and treatment organization.

Link to AVN Article

Mann stressed, and Duke agreed, that the fees charged for these services will be entirely transparent, and a sheet indicating how the collected monies will be spent was handed out at the meeting. Duke also noted that a yearly accounting of income and expenditures for the program would be produced and available for any of the program's members to see.

One thing that Duke stressed over and over is that the program "will grow and change because of you," and that it is "not going to be perfect coming out of the gate." She said that FSC is still in the process of vetting clinics to perform the required services, and in answer to a question from the audience, assured the audience that performers will be able to move easily from one testing center to another with no interruption in their ability to work. One of the criteria for selecting clinics for the program, she said, was their willingness to charge approximately the same prices for tests that performers had paid to AIM.

This program doesn't seem to be as bad as you are making it out to be. I like the transparency, willingness to improve, increased privacy, national scope and matching of AIM's pricing.

No Fear, Just Knowledge!

[Robbie]

Originally Posted by MaDalton

i am not 100% sure, but over here a test costs something between $70-$90, there's an online database and it actually tests for everything incl. hepatitis b&c - just saying

It doesn't include a data base...or paying a bunch of people's salaries at FSC...but you can get an HIV test at Walgreens drug store for $59

Point is that all these companies (AIM when they were in business) and even TalentTesting now overcharge for this. And now FSC wants to charge more...a lot more?

[vsex]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

From Yahoo.com


$150 per test

$50 a year per performer

$250 a year per producer


How about fuck you!!! Im going to Talent Testing!!

It's $250 PER MONTH for Producers that are not FSC members. $150 per month if you are a member.

Have fun with that.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Redrob

STUDIO CITY, Calif.?Just over 50 members of the adult movie and internet community met today at the Sportsman's Lodge, site of many past such meetings, at the invitation of the Free Speech Coalition (FSC) to discuss the future of healthcare services for adult productions in the wake of the bankruptcy and subsequent closing of AIM Medical Associates, the industry's primary STI testing and treatment organization.

Link to AVN Article





This program doesn't seem to be as bad as you are making it out to be. I like the transparency, willingness to improve, increased privacy, national scope and matching of AIM's pricing.

No Fear, Just Knowledge!

So in a nutshell, they will set up a secure database, you will have the option of several member clinics,the fees charged for these services will be entirely transparent. You will have the choice of using them or not? What's wrong with that ? If you dont like it, then use one of the other service providers

[Qbert]

Originally Posted by JFK

What's wrong with that?

Even the most clueless performer can grasp that $110 is less than $150.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Redrob

This program doesn't seem to be as bad as you are making it out to be. I like the transparency, willingness to improve, increased privacy, national scope and matching of AIM's pricing.

There was one way you could have stolen the thunder from any other service out there, and that was to make your service CHEAPER. That's it. And you blew it. You actually made it more expensive.

During a time when money couldn't be tighter for everyone in the industry, the FSC wants everyone to pay MORE for the same service they can get cheaper somewhere else.

If a "secure database" is your only selling point, you're a little late. Everyone's information was already given out.

[Redrob]

Who said the cost to performers is $150?

The news release said they were going to try and match AIM's pricing.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Redrob

This program doesn't seem to be as bad as you are making it out to be. I like the transparency, willingness to improve, increased privacy, national scope and matching of AIM's pricing.

No Fear, Just Knowledge!

Rob no disrespect to you, but my gripe and disagreement is with FSC and the bullshit agenda that they are "trying" to push on the adult industry is a strait insult.


They want all of this money, annual fees, monthly producer fees and all that they are going to do is point you to an adult friendly clinic (because they don't have one) and put all of the talents information into a data base and make bank.


I already can get tested and get access to a talent data base for $110 per test with out my performers paying a $50 annually and me paying $250 per month producer fees for access to talents tests online.


Now RedRob, I do understand that you get paid for giving us this informaition and I do not hold any of this against you. You seem like a goot guy, but with the numbers I, and others have posted here what makes more sense to you?

FSC's bullshit, completely laughable idea of testing in the future? Or

Talent Testing which is already in place for $110 per test, with No $50 Annual talent fees and no $250 per month producers fees?


How can FSC be this dumb!! I truly believe that they have no idea that talent testing exists. Im thinking that FSC thinks that there is no other game in town and feels they can charge what they want.


What pissed me off the most is not the price but the intentions of the prices per test and all of the monthly producers dues and annual dues attached to it.


I do know one thing and that is when I shoot anal, I use lube

Originally Posted by vsex

It's $250 PER MONTH for Producers that are not FSC members. $150 per month if you are a member.

Have fun with that.

O shit you are right. My bad. I was so pissed off when I was typing this that i typoed it wrong. Which is even worse.





To FSC: Since I do see that you are trying to take advantage of a situation that you really "think" you have control of, I will be contacting every agent and every producer I know and will be informing them about this extortion plot you you guys are trying to do to the adult industry. Then we as producers of the adult industry will accept tests from "Talent Testing" ONLY!!



Not worried one bit: Name one victory FSC has ever had?? This one wont be the 1st.



Sorry about the rant guys.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Who said the cost to performers is $150?

The news release said they were going to try and match AIM's pricing.

It was all disclosed at the meeting.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Qbert

Even the most clueless performer can grasp that $110 is less than $150.

indeed they can and no one can force you to use the FSC's service

[Redrob]

Free Speech Coaliton vs Ashcoft, overturning the Child Pornography Prevention Act (CPPA)

[JFK]

Did I misunderstand, the earlier press releases from FSC, were they not going to open their own clinic ?

[TheSquealer]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Free Speech Coaliton vs Ashcoft, overturning the Child Pornography Prevention Act (CPPA)

Free Speech Coalition vs Common Sense and Stated Purpose, "we're now going to fight against spyware/malware"

[Redrob]

Side note:

Nobody pays me anything to post anything on GFY.

I am my own person in all my financial matters.

All my opinions are my own.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by JFK

Did I misunderstand, the earlier press releases from FSC, were they not going to open their own clinic ?

Correct

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Side note:

Nobody pays me anything to post anything on GFY.

I am my own person in all my financial matters.

All my opinions are my own.

Did FSC even tell you what they were planning to charge everyone?


Well they disclosed it to everyone behind closed doors in the meeting. The press conferences were done after the meeting where all prices and fees were left out.


No Fear, just Knowledge.

[Redrob]

Nowhere in this news release does FSC say it is starting it's own clinic.

FOR IMMEDIATE PUBLICATION
May 16, 2011
Contact: Diane Duke
[email protected]

FSC Calls for Industry-Wide Meeting on Production Health Services

CANOGA PARK, Calif. ? Free Speech Coalition (FSC) is calling all industry stakeholders to a meeting to preview plans for Adult Production Health & Safety Services (APHSS). Performers, producers, agents and other industry members that are concerned with STD testing protocols and workplaces safety are encouraged to attend. Media also will be allowed to attend.

The meeting is scheduled for May 26, at 1pm, at the Sportsmen?s Lodge in Studio City. The address is 12833 Ventura Blvd., Studio City, CA, 91604.

?FSC has been in contact with numerous industry professionals and sexual health providers. Together, we are developing a solid program that will fill in the gaps resulting from AIM?s closure,? FSC Executive Director Diane Duke. ?If you?re affected by the production side of the industry this is an essential meeting for you to attend.?

An agenda for the meeting is to be announced. Information will be released to industry media outlets, as well as on the FSC Blog, Facebook and Twitter @FSCArmy.

This is an open meeting for industry members only. Members of the general public will not be permitted to attend.

If you are an industry member or a media representative and planning to attend, please send an email to [email protected] , so that FSC can estimate how many will be in attendance.

(Link to FSC Blog http://fscblogger.wordpress.com/)]

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Nowhere in this news release does FSC say it is starting it's own clinic.

OK , I guess , I misread the original press release

[Redrob]

JFK,

The same has happened to me before, too.

[JFK]

Originally Posted by Redrob

JFK,

The same has happened to me before, too.

That's what happens when I skim things too fast

[DWB]

Originally Posted by JustDaveXxx

Rob no disrespect to you, but my gripe and disagreement is with FSC and the bullshit agenda that they are "trying" to push on the adult industry is a strait insult.

They want all of this money, annual fees, monthly producer fees and all that they are going to do is point you to an adult friendly clinic (because they don't have one) and put all of the talents information into a data base and make bank.

I already can get tested and get access to a talent data base for $110 per test with out my performers paying a $50 annually and me paying $250 per month producer fees for access to talents tests online.

Now RedRob, I do understand that you get paid for giving us this informaition and I do not hold any of this against you. You seem like a goot guy, but with the numbers I, and others have posted here what makes more sense to you?

FSC's bullshit, completely laughable idea of testing in the future? Or

Talent Testing which is already in place for $110 per test, with No $50 Annual talent fees and no $250 per month producers fees?

How can FSC be this dumb!! I truly believe that they have no idea that talent testing exists. Im thinking that FSC thinks that there is no other game in town and feels they can charge what they want.

What pissed me off the most is not the price but the intentions of the prices per test and all of the monthly producers dues and annual dues attached to it.

I do know one thing and that is when I shoot anal, I use lube

O shit you are right. My bad. I was so pissed off when I was typing this that i typoed it wrong. Which is even worse.

To FSC: Since I do see that you are trying to take advantage of a situation that you really "think" you have control of, I will be contacting every agent and every producer I know and will be informing them about this extortion plot you you guys are trying to do to the adult industry. Then we as producers of the adult industry will accept tests from "Talent Testing" ONLY!!

Not worried one bit: Name one victory FSC has ever had?? This one wont be the 1st.

And there you have it.

Dave, the FSC does not want to listen to a full time working LA producer like you. IMHO, this is a huge mistake on their behalf.

Originally Posted by Redrob

Free Speech Coaliton vs Ashcoft, overturning the Child Pornography Prevention Act (CPPA)

You are right. FSC did well with COPPA. I will give credit where credit is due. Job well done.

Unfortunately, everything else has been an failure. And it gives me no joy to say that, but it is what it is.

COPPA = WIN
2257 = FAIL
.XXX = FAIL
Piracy Protection Racket = FAILING
STD / HIV Testing = About To Fail

And where was the FSC when PWL started releasing all of the talent information? What good is having lawyers involved if you can't take down a single abusive website? Instead, they sat back and plotted a way to make money after AIMS demise, offering a "secure" database. And while it may not have been premeditated, it was certainly convenient.

At the very least, the FSC should have had that site taken offline if for no other reason that to protect paying FSC members. Did they even try?

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Redrob

The same has happened to me before, too.

You've woken up naked in Hong Kong with two trannies in your bed and not a condom in sight?

I hate when that happens.

[JustDaveXxx]

Originally Posted by DWB

You've woken up naked in Hong Kong with two trannies in your bed and not a condom in sight?

I hate when that happens.

On another note, To Redrob's defense, I don't think he had any idea what FSC was planning on charging the adult biz.

[Redrob]

You've woken up naked in Hong Kong with two trannies in your bed and not a condom in sight?

I hate when that happens.

Hong Kong is very genteel compared to Bangkok.

I deny ever visiting Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. <No pics, so it didn't happen.>

However, I will say that if they are tall, good looking, fair skinned and hot as hell, they are probably trannies.

[merina0803]

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3 performers showed up yesterday so I hear.. what a joke.

[DWB]

Originally Posted by Redrob

Hong Kong is very genteel compared to Bangkok.

I deny ever visiting Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza in Bangkok. <No pics, so it didn't happen.>

However, I will say that if they are tall, good looking, fair skinned and hot as hell, they are probably trannies.

If you've been to Bangkok, be sure to catch Hangover 2.

[ThatOtherGuy - BANNED FOR LIFE]

Well at least someone tried to do something. I read recently that LA County is looking into required condom use for all adult production or something like that the other day and it was up for a vote.