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Old 05-13-2011, 02:53 PM   #1
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That's my next prediction. I nailed it with epassporte, too fucking predictable.
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That's my next prediction. I nailed it with epassporte, too fucking predictable.
they did seem desperate with the .xxx stuff.

What exactly do they do, run an adult industry news site and some shows? Not a great market to be hitting up for ad dollars these days. Do they do anything else?
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they did seem desperate with the .xxx stuff.

What exactly do they do, run an adult industry news site and some shows? Not a great market to be hitting up for ad dollars these days. Do they do anything else?
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I wont even read stories published by XBIZ these days, and no longer visit the site.

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Vote with views guys.
Didn't you get an xbiz nomination once for designer of the year?
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I doubt it. They provide a superior product in their trade mag compared to the others. Who knows what all they have cooking under the hood. But they certainly do not appear to be hurting for money.

I would say it's more realistic that they will be one of the last viable companies standing in the next 12-24 months when adult is a ghost town. But I suppose time will tell, as it always does, in such things.
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I have not been to their sites for some time. Got tired of a lot of the crap.
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I'm an xbiz advertiser and they don't seem to be slowing down at all? Their social network is incredible and I've pulled plenty of business from them over the past couple of years.
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this is very true when there is no articles about any companies like bangbrosnetwork, etc unless they are bad press. does fsc own site?
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they did seem desperate with the .xxx stuff.

What exactly do they do, run an adult industry news site and some shows? Not a great market to be hitting up for ad dollars these days. Do they do anything else?
Oh I just remembered they give out stupid awards that are meaningless and most people will piratically suck their cock to get nominated.

I really hope people stop messing around with their stupid awards, its a big joke they playing on you. The award means total shit yet all of you people fly the banners (awards) on your sites and on here and give them lots of free traffic. congrats on getting played.

If companies still care about their awards in the future I think I will be skipping over those companies and doing business with someone else.


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LOL if Mark endorses it, thats a sure sign of someone NOT to do business with.
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I doubt it. They provide a superior product in their trade mag compared to the others. Who knows what all they have cooking under the hood. But they certainly do not appear to be hurting for money.

I would say it's more realistic that they will be one of the last viable companies standing in the next 12-24 months when adult is a ghost town. But I suppose time will tell, as it always does, in such things.
that makes no sense. Isn't the majority of their revenue based on ad sales??? If Adult is a ghost town then how in the fuck they still going to be in business? no one left to read their shit or buy ads from them. Or do they do business that we don't know about, have a stake in .xxx or something like that ? If its all based on the adult community to read their shit (provide traffic source / venue so they can then try to sell ads to adult companies) then they in a lot of trouble if there is few people left in the adult community (ghost town) to read their shit and buy ads from them.
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There are some good people there. Why all the hate? ...really?
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We have done very well advertising with Xbiz, sponsoring their shows and I can tell you that Alec, Moe, Kristen and the rest of the crew are all very smart, easy to work with and good at what they do. I think their mags are excellent and they have good writers. Xbiz.net is jumpin' and they have done very well with the shows (as good as a company can do with adult shows these days) and they always work hard to promote those who support them.

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Havent been keeping up with the news as of late. Why are people so upset with XBiz? Or is this just typical GFY bitching?

How did they "support .xxx" and so what if they did? Do they own part of it or something and spin news or something covering it? Thats the only think I could thing of that would be worth bitching about. Other than that whats the deal?

Typical GFY bitches? Or is it something more?
Spill it.

I actually look forward to getting my issue in the mail every month.
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Havent been keeping up with the news as of late. Why are people so upset with XBiz? Or is this just typical GFY bitching?

How did they "support .xxx" and so what if they did? Do they own part of it or something and spin news or something covering it? Thats the only think I could thing of that would be worth bitching about. Other than that whats the deal?

Typical GFY bitches? Or is it something more?
Spill it.

I actually look forward to getting my issue in the mail every month.

https://gfy.com/showthread.php?t=1019639
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Havent been keeping up with the news as of late. Why are people so upset with XBiz? Or is this just typical GFY bitching?

How did they "support .xxx" and so what if they did? Do they own part of it or something and spin news or something covering it? Thats the only think I could thing of that would be worth bitching about. Other than that whats the deal?

Typical GFY bitches? Or is it something more?
Spill it.

I actually look forward to getting my issue in the mail every month.
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Does anyone else kind of find it odd that only 22% of the people who replied to the xbiz poll said they were against .XXX and the other 78% said they either support it or didn't care either way???

Here is the link to the XBiz poll: http://www.xbiz.com/polls/poll.php?id=119287 interesting, it's a blank page now.

By comparison, a poll run on GFY during the same time: https://gfy.com/fucking-around-and-business-discussion/714663-icann-approved-xxx-vote.html (88% against!)

Lawley has been an active poster on the XBIZ forums.
Lawley is givin plenty of lip service within the XBIZ pages.

XBIZ.net is one of the premium and most well-established adult-industry, discussion boards. It is a members-only board, and membership is restricted adult -industry professionals. Stuart Lawley must agree with that assertion because xbiz.net is the only network he joined and the only adult board on which he decided to contribute.
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The nature of the public comment period provoked press interest, particularly in the technology press.
Articles regarding the comment period appeared in the following outlets (in no particular order): the BBC, The Register, Domain Name Wire, DomainIncite, The UWM Post, Tech.Blorge, WorldNetDaily, CircleID, PC Magazine, PC World, ZDNet, GeekSugar, Silicon Republic, V3.co.uk, The Domains, Xbiz, among others.
In general, the articles that expressed an opinion came down in favour of "option 1" and the approval of the dot-xxx application. This opinion was also largely reflected in comments to the articles from readers and in online polls.
http://www.circleid.com/posts/a_summ...od_on_dot_xxx/

Lastly and most importantly I do not recall XBIZ comming out and denying that they support .XXX. You would think they would make a release about where they stand but have yet to do.

I also find it kind of funny that all .XXX press releases come out of XBIZ first.

YOu have been informed bro!
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that makes no sense. Isn't the majority of their revenue based on ad sales??? If Adult is a ghost town then how in the fuck they still going to be in business? no one left to read their shit or buy ads from them. Or do they do business that we don't know about, have a stake in .xxx or something like that ? If its all based on the adult community to read their shit (provide traffic source / venue so they can then try to sell ads to adult companies) then they in a lot of trouble if there is few people left in the adult community (ghost town) to read their shit and buy ads from them.
We'll start here.

1. Do YOU actually get the trade mag monthly? I mean the hard copy version.

Based on your shared opinion, I'd say you do not.
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1. Do YOU actually get the trade mag monthly? I mean the hard copy version.

Based on your shared opinion, I'd say you do not.
No i do not get their hard copy trade mag. Why does that matter. It's a mag, they either make money from charging people to buy the mag and/or from selling ad space in it. If adult is a ghost town, how are they going to continue to be in business if there is 1. no one left to receive their mags. 2. no one buying ads in it.

You can start any where you want, but you can't dance around the fact that what you said makes no sense.
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No i do not get their hard copy trade mag. Why does that matter. It's a mag, they either make money from charging people to buy the mag and/or from selling ad space in it. If adult is a ghost town, how are they going to continue to be in business if there is 1. no one left to receive their mags. 2. no one buying ads in it.
Actually, that goes to show what little you know & talking out of your ass on this one.

Many of the companies buying ad space in XBIZ are not even represented on forums or GFY. You seem to suffer from the belief you think that GFY represents the adult industry as a whole. It doesn't. There are literally hundreds of companies that advertise in their trade you never would know about if your rely on GFY for your information. Many never post here.

This is one of the things that always makes me laugh about people who do not bother to read the trades, or go to any of the conferences, and talk like they have the pulse of this industry and the companies within it.

You are really out of touch with many of the things going on with the bigger companies. While you are worrying about tubes every day in the latest Paul Markham dead horse thread, arguing about politics, and the color of Obsama's skid marks after being shot. Real business is getting done. A lot of it never even gets mentioned on the forums.

The boards in general are way behind what is actually going on, and most of the topics focus all of their time and energy on is not even on the radar of those paying for ad space in XBIZ. If you rely on GFY to keep up with all of the changes, and innovations going on within this industry, you are clueless.

I doubt the pontificating of Will76 and Paul Markham on GFY about tube sites, industry conspiracies, and their thoughts on life, are keeping Larry Flynt or Steve Hirsch up at night. At best, the small fries and piss ants will be out of this industry, leaving it to the conglomerates who actually have money. Brazzer's is a prime example of a company not hurting for business as easy shown by their different big dollar acquisitions.

Anyway, I will leave you to it Markham Jr.. Like many threads, you've made up your mind and will fight endlessly about it with long Gettysburg address opinions. Enjoy.
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Mitch, the guy who has never had one thing bad to say about anyone. The world must be perfect in his eyes because he sees no wrong in anyone. If you ever want to feel good about yourself, need a testimonial or a good quote for PR.... Mitch is your man!
Actually - I have plenty bad to say about some and I do from time to time,. Typically however, I don't do it on a public forum. I do post nice things when I feel it is justified, as I did here.
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Mitch, the guy who has never had one thing bad to say about anyone. The world must be perfect in his eyes because he sees no wrong in anyone. If you ever want to feel good about yourself, need a testimonial or a good quote for PR.... Mitch is your man!
Or he's just a polite businessman who treats his business like that because it works...
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Actually - I have plenty bad to say about some and I do from time to time,. Typically however, I don't do it on a public forum. I do post nice things when I feel it is justified, as I did here.
I like this kind of attitude. Wish I was more like that myself.
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Actually, that goes to show what little you know & talking out of your ass on this one.

Many of the companies buying ad space in XBIZ are not even represented on forums or GFY. You seem to suffer from the belief you think that GFY represents the adult industry as a whole. It doesn't. There are literally hundreds of companies that advertise in their trade you never would know about if your rely on GFY for your information. Many never post here.

This is one of the things that always makes me laugh about people who do not bother to read the trades, or go to any of the conferences, and talk like they have the pulse of this industry and the companies within it.

You are really out of touch with many of the things going on with the bigger companies. While you are worrying about tubes every day in the latest Paul Markham dead horse thread, arguing about politics, and the color of Obsama's skid marks after being shot. Real business is getting done. A lot of it never even gets mentioned on the forums.

The boards in general are way behind what is actually going on, and most of the topics focus all of their time and energy on is not even on the radar of those paying for ad space in XBIZ. If you rely on GFY to keep up with all of the changes, and innovations going on within this industry, you are clueless.

I doubt the pontificating of Will76 and Paul Markham on GFY about tube sites, industry conspiracies, and their thoughts on life, are keeping Larry Flynt or Steve Hirsch up at night. At best, the small fries and piss ants will be out of this industry, leaving it to the conglomerates who actually have money. Brazzer's is a prime example of a company not hurting for business as easy shown by their different big dollar acquisitions.

Anyway, I will leave you to it Markham Jr.. Like many threads, you've made up your mind and will fight endlessly about it with long Gettysburg address opinions. Enjoy.
Great post... I must say....
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