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Old 05-07-2011, 07:42 PM   #201
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Ahhhh I think I got it That's cool, do what you want ! But those people who you think are "blind rabbits" and "don't think what they type" are not likely to hand over $6000 to you and as you think that's "most people" I wish you well in your business.
People will buy what he's selling if they think it will make them money or if they need it. Anyone who takes into consideration a factor like the personal opinion of someone they do business with is a fucking idiot. Besides, seems like quite a few people here agree with him.

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2 muchmedia support the innocence of Bin Laden (it seems)
Perhaps he just doesn't accept he's guilty on the say so of people with an obvious agenda. Where you come from is it commonplace for someone to be found guilty without any trial or even compelling evidence?

[Leaving aside the fact it's his personal opinion, and not that of his company.]

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Old 05-07-2011, 07:58 PM   #202
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"People will buy what he's selling if they think it will make them money or if they need it."
Yeah but I might have needed it or somebody else, is this guy Mark Prince ? Do you think I'm gonna buy a service from somebody who asks me to "think before I write" Somebody who's avatar says "fuck you" ? Regardless of it being the GFY, these are very bad indicators.
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:04 AM   #203
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No problem, the guys at 2muchmedia believe that Osama Bin Laden "Just that he didn't claim responsibility for 9/11" and also:
"the US doesn't like having moles and spies and assassinations within its borders, and declares allegiance to the rule of law, but doesn't hold itself up to the same standards it does other sovereign states."

2 muchmedia support the innocence of Bin Laden (it seems)

2much/2much Internet/2much.net has nothing to do with TooMuchMedia.

2much is a company and thus my opinions are not representative; in fact Mark Prince and I have engaged in many discussions and arguments about this subject, and we're not of the same mind.

If I qualify people who post in this thread of "blind rabbits" it might be undiplomatic and improper and outside my usual respectful manner, but it's also because they don't seem to read the thread before they reply "America Fuck Yeah!".

So "2 muchmedia" or rather 2much.net - a live video chat site platform - which has nothing to do with TooMuchMedia or TMM - an affiliate management and tracking platform - does not "support the innocence of Bin Laden" as you say, and neither do I.

However I do support justice, the rule of law, and being provided evidence of a claim prior to being asked to support that claim.

In other words, the government lied, stated they had no proof, and acted as though they had proof and unilateral support for their actions, which they didn't.

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And I think my avatar is fucking hilarious.

Don't ask me whose ass is in the background.

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Old 05-08-2011, 11:24 AM   #205
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Gentlemen...

First I need to warn you about Mediaguy. He loves conspiracy theories, and distrusts the media & governments. If you disagree with mediaguy, good luck. You will grow tired of arguing and end up crying like a baby in the corner before you will win any 9/11 related arguments against him. Trust me, I know.

Next, there is no reason to bring business into this thread. You should not assume that Mediaguy's opinions (nor anyone else's here) are the opinions of the companies they represent.

My basic argument with all conspiracy theorists is that it is OK to be sceptical, but if you are going to be skeptical, you should be skeptical of ALL sources of information, not just the ones support your general theory.

For example, the film makers behind Lose Change bring alot of interesting questions and ideas surrounding the events of 9/11, but while watching it you soon come to realize that that their agenda is not limited to asking questions, but instead to completely discrediting 100% of every word the US Government reported on those events. Had true skeptics made this movie, they would have not to re edit the movie again and again just to update their "facts".

Anyway, everyone, RELAX A little... there will always be a sufficient lack of details and scientific proof of any event that will make anyone go "Hmmmm...". Since any one person's own conspiracy theory can't be proven as FACT, it becomes more of a BELIEF. Trying to change a person's belief is an exercise in futility.

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Old 05-08-2011, 12:48 PM   #206
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Al-Qaeda leader Osama Bin Laden was unarmed when he was killed by US troops on Sunday after resisting capture, the White House has said.
Who gives a fuck? He murdered thousands of innocent people, civilians. He was the worst terrorist in the world.

Glad he got what he deserved.

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Old 05-08-2011, 01:07 PM   #207
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He murdered thousands of innocent people, civilians.
first i have heard of this.. if ordering the killing of people is the same as murder , are bush and obama guilty of murder ? Haven't bush and obama murdered alot more civilians ? would it be worse to plan/order 2000 killings or 10,000 killings ?
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Old 05-08-2011, 02:15 PM   #208
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first i have heard of this.. if ordering the killing of people is the same as murder , are bush and obama guilty of murder ? Haven't bush and obama murdered alot more civilians ? would it be worse to plan/order 2000 killings or 10,000 killings ?
Comedy gold, keep it coming...
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first i have heard of this.. if ordering the killing of people is the same as murder , are bush and obama guilty of murder ? Haven't bush and obama murdered alot more civilians ? would it be worse to plan/order 2000 killings or 10,000 killings ?
"Terrorists" have ordered that civilians be killed...when has President Bush or President Obama ordered that civilians be killed?
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:37 PM   #210
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first i have heard of this.. if ordering the killing of people is the same as murder , are bush and obama guilty of murder ? Haven't bush and obama murdered alot more civilians ? would it be worse to plan/order 2000 killings or 10,000 killings ?
wow you are starting to sound like one helluva stupid fuck
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Old 05-08-2011, 07:59 PM   #211
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"Terrorists" have ordered that civilians be killed...when has President Bush or President Obama ordered that civilians be killed?
ahhh so the fact bush and obama have killed 100 times more civilians than bin laden did doesn't count because they were accidental..

so killing thousands of babies, old people and women is ok as long as your going for bad guys..

as long as you have your priorities
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wow you are starting to sound like one helluva stupid fuck
you can't answer the question makes me the stupid fuck ? lol
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ahhh so the fact bush and obama have killed 100 times more civilians than bin laden did doesn't count because they were accidental..

so killing thousands of babies, old people and women is ok as long as your going for bad guys..

as long as you have your priorities
I don't think that President Bush or President Obama have killed anyone...let alone 100 times more civilians than Bin Laden did...I do not know if Bin Laden has ever killed a civilian or anyone for that matter.

I do know that Bin Laden in at least one of his two formal declarations of war on the U.S. said that he would not differentiate between civilians and military targets...and I do know that he had called for Americans to be killed where ever they may be found.

Because of his actions the U.S. engaged our military and yes...collateral civilian deaths often happen when the military engages military targets/the "bad guys"...but ultimately the bad guys can be blamed for all deaths involved as our military would not have been engaged other than for their initial actions.
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ahhh so the fact bush and obama have killed 100 times more civilians than bin laden did doesn't count because they were accidental..

so killing thousands of babies, old people and women is ok as long as your going for bad guys..

as long as you have your priorities
A few pages back you said UBL didn't kill anyone and never took responsibility for anything. But seeing how you're losing the argument your point of view has changed to he has killed people just not as many as Bush and Barry?
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I do know that Bin Laden in at least one of his two formal declarations of war on the U.S. said that he would not differentiate between civilians and military targets...and I do know that he had called for Americans to be killed where ever they may be found.
sounds eerily familiar to what bush has said about al-queda

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.but ultimately the bad guys can be blamed for all deaths involved as our military would not have been engaged other than for their initial actions.
so osama should be blamed for usa invading iraq under false pretenses even though no 9/11 terrorists were from iraq, iraq had no wmd's and no iraqis had killed any americans..

that makes complete sense..

p.s. whats a "bad guy" ?
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A few pages back you said UBL didn't kill anyone and never took responsibility for anything.
they have this cool feature called "quotes" , where you can quote what i said.. feel free to use it..

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But seeing how you're losing the argument your point of view has changed
if you have any evidence he has killed anyone , feel free to post it, until then my opinion stays the same.

You have not posted anything with substance yet.. feel free to start..

It is impossible for me to lose argument when there isn't a point to argue. I am sharing my opinion , others are sharing theirs. I am not here to convince you that you don't shoot unarmed people. I am sharing my pov that i wouldn't.
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sounds eerily familiar to what bush has said about al-queda


so osama should be blamed for usa invading iraq under false pretenses even though no 9/11 terrorists were from iraq, iraq had no wmd's and no iraqis had killed any americans..

that makes complete sense..

p.s. whats a "bad guy" ?
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as long as your going for bad guys..
I was using your words...so you tell me...no on the other hand don't. I try to avoid having intercourse with trolls...and you are a troll...and you are now dismissed.
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they have this cool feature called "quotes" , where you can quote what i said.. feel free to use it..



if you have any evidence he has killed anyone , feel free to post it, until then my opinion stays the same.

You have not posted anything with substance yet.. feel free to start..

It is impossible for me to lose argument when there isn't a point to argue. I am sharing my opinion , others are sharing theirs. I am not here to convince you that you don't shoot unarmed people. I am sharing my pov that i wouldn't.
Hey fuckstick... if terrorists even bothered to give a shit about the terdhole you live in you might have some perspective about the feelings of some of the posters. Some of your friends or family or even friends of friends were slaughtered because of stupid shit their government did you would not be such a blatant pussy about what is taking place. This fucking rag head is celebrated by alot of these people in Iraq, Afghanistan and Pakistan so who gives a shit if some are sent to allah prematurely. America is a fucking super power and if you fuck with might you will pay. These governments should have turned this fucker over 15 years ago.... time to pay the piper! Turnabout is fair play!

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I still do not believe that Pakistan had no knowledge of this, for america to act like this inside another soverign country without their knowledge is a REALLY, REALLY dangerous precident and will only serve to flame even more anti-american sentiments around the world.
You do not hear any other country de-crying what America did was bad because every intelligence chief/PM/President in the world knows that this was for the best....Pakistan is just trying to Cover Its Ass in the home ground. At the same time they want the US money too so that they can continue to fund the terrorist camps.

There is no anti-american sentiment flare....instead its going to be one of the best possible PR campaigns for Americans as many people are undoubtedly happy that the most dangerous man in the world is dead. One less evil
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You do not hear any other country de-crying what America did was bad because every intelligence chief/PM/President in the world knows that this was for the best....Pakistan is just trying to Cover Its Ass in the home ground. At the same time they want the US money too so that they can continue to fund the terrorist camps.

There is no anti-american sentiment flare....instead its going to be one of the best possible PR campaigns for Americans as many people are undoubtedly happy that the most dangerous man in the world is dead. One less evil


And we killed him when exactly?
The most dangerous man in the world... a treasure trove of terrorist information. Found Unarmed and then shot dead. Sounds like a plan, Stan.

You sound like a first in line to do anything the government wants when the next phase of false flags go off.
They're saving you from the made up boogeymen ...While men in black round up your family and drive away.

You know everything they say is true. Why shit... they have your best interest in mind
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Hey fuckstick...
my name is above the post..
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if terrorists even bothered to give a shit about the terdhole you live in you might have some perspective about the feelings of some of the posters.
one of the planes crashed a few miles from my house. stop making stupid assumptions.. is d.c. not important enough for you ?
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Some of your friends or family or even friends of friends were slaughtered because of stupid shit their government did i wouldn't have to whine like a little bitch
what government are you talking about ? the american government ?
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This fucking rag head .
you couldn't possibly be racist right ?

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America is a fucking super power and if you fuck with might you will pay.
or in this case america will attack completely unconnected countries that have nothing to do with 9/11 , in the process murdering thousands of children, and old people.
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These governments should have turned this fucker over 15 years ago
the usa were too busy kissing his ass 15 years ago
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