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Old 03-02-2011, 04:09 PM   #1
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Getting myself a Mac.. :)

Finally I have ordered myself a MacBook Pro 15", i7Sandy Bridge, 8GB RAM and HD screen. Can't wait to get it
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Congratulations! Been beating on MACs since Color Classic around 1991.
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Congratulations! Been beating on MACs since Color Classic around 1991.
Thanks! I have been working a little bit on a older iMac but mostly on Win. Now, my laptop is sooooo slow. Looking forward to get some speed I actually counted the startup on a browser today, right after I turned the machine on and while antivirus and whatever was still starting... It too 81 seconds to get on the net
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Crazy. Your new MAC laptop should be ready to net in under 30 seconds......
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nice I'm looking at a new 13" macbook pro myself.
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Crazy. Your new MAC laptop should be ready to net in under 30 seconds......
I did a test on a new i7 with 4GB ram... Opened up 3-4 programs (don't remember witch) and then started opening all the office progs. All of them started within 2 sec. Impressing! So I am very confident that I will be able to run all my regular programs and then some, without problems.

Now, to be fair with my old Asus, when I boot into Linux it is very fast and nice so I will keep it as a spare
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Anyone have an 11 inch Air? What you think so far? Is it good for everyday stuff plus bit of Photoshop?
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Awesome enjoy it, and remember ipad2 comes out in 9 days
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go with SSD.
Cost too much But I am thinking about getting a SSD in my stationary machine along with a new CPU.

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Awesome enjoy it, and remember ipad2 comes out in 9 days
Yeah, going to get one for The Wife. I know she want one.
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I have said here many times that I wouldn't buy any more Apple hardware.

I will however be buying a new Macbook Pro in the next few weeks.
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Got it!! And I love it! So quick and nice to use. No more waiting 30-70 seconds for big programs to open, it is all done in 1-5 sec. Sweet!

Just a quick question: how can I run (or can I) Nifty Stats on a Mac without installing Windows?
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Got it!! And I love it! So quick and nice to use. No more waiting 30-70 seconds for big programs to open, it is all done in 1-5 sec. Sweet!

Just a quick question: how can I run (or can I) Nifty Stats on a Mac without installing Windows?
I use Stats Remote on my Mac
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It sounds like you went with a Mac because of performance reasons, which is very sad because Win PC's and Laptops that are equal priced smoke a Mac.

As a multiple pc and mac owner, I'll never spend the money again on a Mac. But I would for my wife... it's strong, easy to use but hard enough she can't mess much up, perfect for computer newbies.
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It sounds like you went with a Mac because of performance reasons, which is very sad because Win PC's and Laptops that are equal priced smoke a Mac.

As a multiple pc and mac owner, I'll never spend the money again on a Mac. But I would for my wife... it's strong, easy to use but hard enough she can't mess much up, perfect for computer newbies.
Not only this. I wanted to try Mac as I have always been on Windows and partial Linux. I also love the look of the Mac Yes, I was looking at PC laptops with the same specs. and I could have saved maybe $300 going for PC. I 100% agree on the newbie part. Mac (and Ubuntu, maybe?) would be the best for someone all new to computers. But no regrets here, I love my new machine
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I win in price and performance ^^

And yes, I paid for the OS

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It sounds like you went with a Mac because of performance reasons, which is very sad because Win PC's and Laptops that are equal priced smoke a Mac.
Try the test again after a year and see which is faster. I have not used a windows based machine yet that has not turned into a snail within a year.
I believe much of the problem lies with how programs are installed & uninstalled on windows.
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Try the test again after a year and see which is faster. I have not used a windows based machine yet that has not turned into a snail within a year.
I believe much of the problem lies with how programs are installed & uninstalled on windows.
That and because the people at micro$soft can't figure out how to create a file system that doesn't need constant defragging.

I'll keep windows inside a VM where it belongs.

I'd like to convert more people to the *nix side of the world
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I dunno.. debian squeeze is pretty damn hot. Using a hybrid install here.. debian squeeze base install with some linux mint features (I love their launcher menu).

Not saying ubuntu is bad, it used to be my preferred choice.. but I am quite impressed with debian squeeze thus far ><
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It sounds like you went with a Mac because of performance reasons, which is very sad because Win PC's and Laptops that are equal priced smoke a Mac.

As a multiple pc and mac owner, I'll never spend the money again on a Mac. But I would for my wife... it's strong, easy to use but hard enough she can't mess much up, perfect for computer newbies.
well said, however many of apple buyers don't think logically, its emotional thing for them (of course because of great apple brainwashing machine)
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Should have fucking learnt it is Mac, not MAC then, really.

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Not only this. I wanted to try Mac as I have always been on Windows and partial Linux. I also love the look of the Mac Yes, I was looking at PC laptops with the same specs. and I could have saved maybe $300 going for PC. I 100% agree on the newbie part. Mac (and Ubuntu, maybe?) would be the best for someone all new to computers. But no regrets here, I love my new machine
I gave my Sister an Ubuntu machine a couple years back, it's 'perfect' for Internet and Computer newbies... until something goes wrong, then you can be sure a phone call is coming your way. Honestly though, after 10.0 came out, it has been perfect... and once they learn how to get / install the basics of software and games and see how much they have to go through, they light up with joy.

Couple years later now, and she said that she'll never go back to Windows... she loves Ubuntu and has no idea how to use it or what it can do.
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Try the test again after a year and see which is faster. I have not used a windows based machine yet that has not turned into a snail within a year.
I believe much of the problem lies with how programs are installed & uninstalled on windows.
I'm on Windows 7 - and it rocks! It's been close to 3 years now, and while I have made some upgrades to the hardware, lost a power supply, and had a stick of ram pop which I then upgraded from 4 to 8 gigs of ram.... and right now, my bios battery is 100% dead - overall though, Win7 wise - without question, the best OS windows has ever made.

I've had to rebuild Mac's because they slowed to a crawl... it depends on how they are used.

If the machine is a work horse, video machine or whatever. Both will take a beating, both will need parts replaced faster, and overtime both will slow to a crawl, making a rebuild a must to get the performance back.

As equal as they may be in that area, when it comes time to rebuild those two machines, the Win Pc will cost half the amount of money and get even faster parts, while the Mac will get the same parts or slightly upgraded parts, for twice the cost.
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It sounds like you went with a Mac because of performance reasons, which is very sad because Win PC's and Laptops that are equal priced smoke a Mac.

As a multiple pc and mac owner, I'll never spend the money again on a Mac. But I would for my wife... it's strong, easy to use but hard enough she can't mess much up, perfect for computer newbies.

If you want to compare CPU speed --> $$$ between a PC and a Mac, maybe, but it doesn't mean that a PC is faster just because the CPU is faster.

My iMac27" kicks our PC's asses. It boots in seconds, not minutes. It loads big programs like Adobe Photoshop and Final Cut Pro in just a few seconds.

Besides speed, the machines are slick as hell. No messy wires, no noisy fans, no fucking viruses and spyware, and Super-Fast + friendly + American / Canadian Technical Support. PLUS, it talks to my other mac toys such as Iphones, Time Capsules etc, so effortlessly.

I used to be a PC guy. Glad I woke up.
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If you want to compare CPU speed --> $$$ between a PC and a Mac, maybe, but it doesn't mean that a PC is faster just because the CPU is faster.

My iMac27" kicks our PC's asses. It boots in seconds, not minutes. It loads big programs like Adobe Photoshop and Final Cut Pro in just a few seconds.

Besides speed, the machines are slick as hell. No messy wires, no noisy fans, no fucking viruses and spyware, and Super-Fast + friendly + American / Canadian Technical Support. PLUS, it talks to my other mac toys such as Iphones, Time Capsules etc, so effortlessly.

I used to be a PC guy. Glad I woke up.
Well, aside from maybe the mainboard, PC's and Mac's use essentially the same hardware, especially when it comes to processors (for PC's using intel anyway, ofc not talking amd here). It's just that on a Mac, that same hardware is 2x more expensive.

For instance, Here's my main workstation specs (chassis only, not including monitors, etc.. just whatever comes with a Mac pro + increased specs on Mac Pro to match what I have):

Processor - 2x Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz
Motherboard - Asus Z8NA-D6C
Memory - 12GB DDR3 SDRAM ECC
HDD - Main: 128GB SSD
HDD - Storage/backups: 3x 1TB Sata II
Video - Nvidia GTS 250
Mouse - Apple Magic Mouse
Keyboard - Apple Aluminum Keyboard
Chassis - Lian-Li PC-7B plus II

Total cost: $2,290
This includes the $69 for the magic mouse, $49 for the keyboard, $29 for the Mac OS X SL Retail DVD

Now, The same specs on a Mac Pro:
Starting with this base selection which runs $3,499: http://store.apple.com/us_smb_78313/...co=MTg2OTUwMTk

Processor: 2x Intel Xeon E5620 Westmere 2.4GHz (not proprietary)
Memory: 12GB DDR3 ECC SDRAM (pretty sure it's not proprietary as I believe I recall reports a while back when i was really into the OSx86 stuff that standard server memory module would work in the mac itself, so long as it was server class w/ ECC)
Mainboard: Pretty sure this is proprietary
HDD - Main - 512GB SSD (not proprietary)
HDD - Addons - 3x 1TB Sata II (not proprietary)
Graphics: ATI Radeon HD 5770 1GB (not proprietary -- better and slightly more expensive than my GTS 250)
Mouse - Magic Mouse
Keyboard - Aluminum Keyboard
Case - Mac Proprietary
Total Cost: $5,199

This is pretty much a side by side comparison to the "hefty" Mac Pro 8 core and my main workstation...
2 Main differences are the Main SSD drive and the video card.
Since the Mac Store is showing 1,250 for the 512GB SSD we'll divide that by 4 to get a better comparison: $313 for 128GB SSD. Subtract $937 from the above Mac Pro Total

Video card: I'm using a lower end video card than what comes with the mac pro so we'll first deduct the $95 from my PC total, then add $155 for the ATI Radeon HD 5770. Mac charges $250 for the same ATI Radeon HD 5770 card, just fyi.

Also note: The Mac Pro motherboard is a custom design, manufactured by Hai Hon Electronics Co. (FoxConn), also a manufacturer of PC motherboards. I couldn't find a comparable FoxConn board with the same specs as the Mac Pro for PCs however.

Total PC cost: $2350
Total Cost for Mac* : $4262
*with same specs and only proprietary hardware component being the motherboard... and case if you want to get down to the bitty gritty

The price difference becomes even more grotesque when you start adding things like monitors, software, etc. But this comparison is for chassis hardware specs only, in which Apple only uses a proprietary motherboard (and case if you want complete comparison), the rest are grossly inflated pieces of hardware found in PCs.. well, server/workstation class PC's, not your everyday desktop.


This is pretty much why I use my "PC hardware" and run Mac OS X OS on it as opposed to paying nearly double for a "real Mac Pro" with just about the same hardware I bought for my PC.

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Congratulations with getting a MacBook Pro.
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