why are we having to guess re: the situation with that nuclear reactor? - GoFuckYourself.com

dyna mo · 03-12-2011, 06:14 PM

why isn't there an international team that's in that facility assessing the situation and reporting shit straight up? instead we have to rely on occasional mixed reports from various jap gov agencies.

that's fucked!

kaori · 03-12-2011, 06:23 PM

Yeah, it's not that I don't trust them...

this morning, weren't they saying that the reactor was cooling and radiation levels were lowering? How can that be if they keep releasing steam??

okay, maybe i don't trust them...

theking · 03-12-2011, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

why isn't there an international team that's in that facility assessing the situation and reporting shit straight up? instead we have to rely on occasional mixed reports from various jap gov agencies.

that's fucked!

Mixed reports from government agencies or is it mixed reports from our own media? I think the Japanese techs are quite capable of doing all that can be done.

BTW...those that are trying to control the situation are probably walking dead men...as there have already been reports of radiation sickness...with some of the techs.

dyna mo · 03-12-2011, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by theking

Mixed reports from government agencies or is it mixed reports from our own media? I think the Japanese techs are quite capable of doing all that can be done.

BTW...those that are trying to control the situation are probably walking dead men...as there have already been reports of radiation sickness...with some of the techs.

it's not a matter of capability, it's a matter of transparency. if a killer radioactive cloud can be released worldwide, i think it's more than fair to be very transparent and forthcoming with the status of the situation via a 3rd party analyzing and reporting on the situation from within.

rabbit · 03-12-2011, 06:54 PM

i was close enough to chernobyl during its accident to be afraid the first radioactive cloud would rain on us. after the incident, when many facts became clear, everyone believed that only in a stupid soviet system such lying, deceipt and gross negligence on the part of authorities was possible. and yet here we are again, this time a major democratic power, doing the exact same cover up as the soviets...

brassmonkey · 03-12-2011, 06:58 PM

i saw a dark purple smoke at sunset we're dead dude most of us will probably be zombies by morning.

Amputate Your Head · 03-12-2011, 06:59 PM

I'm packing my truck and heading east. I have no intention of dying from Japanese radiation.

dyna mo · 03-12-2011, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by rabbit

i was close enough to chernobyl during its accident to be afraid the first radioactive cloud would rain on us. after the incident, when many facts became clear, everyone believed that only in a stupid soviet system such lying, deceipt and gross negligence on the part of authorities was possible. and yet here we are again, this time a major democratic power, doing the exact same cover up as the soviets...

exactly.

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I'm packing my truck and heading east. I have no intention of dying from Japanese radiation.

exactly.

dyna mo · 03-12-2011, 07:18 PM

at this very moment: it's unclear whether or not there is a meltdown.

loreen · 03-12-2011, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

at this very moment: it's unclear whether or not there is a meltdown.

I feel for those working there...

Persius · 03-12-2011, 07:22 PM

[8:47 p.m. ET, 10:47 a.m. Tokyo] A state of emergency has been declared for three reactors at the Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant. Roughly 180,000 people who live within 10 to 20 kilometers of the Daiichi plant are being evacuated.

theking · 03-12-2011, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

at this very moment: it's unclear whether or not there is a meltdown.

There has not been a meltdown...and it will become apparent to all if there is a meltdown.

brassmonkey · 03-12-2011, 07:35 PM

i have a craving for brains 2 nite.

Phoenix · 03-12-2011, 07:51 PM

it seemed that most of the workers who would have been the experts fled for their own lives when it first went down...im sure some stayed...but many said they were evacuated from there.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 08:00 AM

IAEA is sending in a team to verify the situation, finally. unbe;ievable.

loreen · 03-13-2011, 08:03 AM

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IAEA is sending in a team to verify the situation, finally. unbe;ievable.

State of emergency declared at Japan's Onagawa nuclear plant; excessive radiation levels recorded, IAEA says.

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen

State of emergency declared at Japan's Onagawa nuclear plant; excessive radiation levels recorded, IAEA says.

Further reports are saying that the increased radiation levels are due to the neighboring plants that are having problems.

Don't know if that is a good thing or not. Same thing happened when Chernobyl went up, it was Swedish nuclear plants that recorded increased radiation levels followed by other European plants.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen

State of emergency declared at Japan's Onagawa nuclear plant; excessive radiation levels recorded, IAEA says.

that's been the case for days now and the IAEA got that information from the japnese gov. not from their own assessment

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

that's been the case for days now and the IAEA got that information from the japnese gov. not from their own assessment

That one was just reported. Maybe you are not using reliable news sources.

ottopottomouse · 03-13-2011, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

why isn't there an international team that's in that facility assessing the situation and reporting shit straight up? instead we have to rely on occasional mixed reports from various jap gov agencies.

that's fucked!

Whenever something goes tits up in America does an international team come and stick their nose in?

Agent 488 · 03-13-2011, 10:38 AM

they are lying. simple. our leaders are criminals.

DWB · 03-13-2011, 10:40 AM

You can count on a worst case scenario on this one. Use your head, use common sense, and trust no government.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

That one was just reported. Maybe you are not using reliable news sources.

regardless of what news sources i have access to, the problem is not me or the news, it's the japanese government.

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

Whenever something goes tits up in America does an international team come and stick their nose in?

don't be ridiculous. that has zero to do with the topic. and i can assure you, i'd approve of international law that requires an inspection such as i am suggesting.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by DirtyWhiteBoy

You can count on a worst case scenario on this one. Use your head, use common sense, and trust no government.

count on worst case? i thought u didn't like gfy experts.

ottopottomouse · 03-13-2011, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

don't be ridiculous. that has zero to do with the topic. and i can assure you, i'd approve of international law that requires an inspection such as i am suggesting.

i'm not being ridiculous. Japan isn't some 3rd world dictatorship that will spout completely unbelievable bullshit for the sake of it.

International laws only apply to countries that voluntarily sign up to abide by them.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

i'm not being ridiculous. Japan isn't some 3rd world dictatorship that will spout completely unbelievable bullshit for the sake of it.

International laws only apply to countries that voluntarily sign up to abide by them.

you might to reconsider that assumption. experts interviewed on several news reports state otherwise.

i understand the voluntary nature of some interntational laws and my comment still stands.

you can make this about me all you want but the fact is this about transparency in light of what could be a major event. you might think it's unfair because america is whatever, or because jap officials tell truth but i think differently.

sologirlcontent · 03-13-2011, 11:41 AM

meltdown is in motion

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by loreen

State of emergency declared at Japan's Onagawa nuclear plant; excessive radiation levels recorded, IAEA says.

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Originally Posted by TheDA

That one was just reported. Maybe you are not using reliable news sources.

oh and for the record, what happened today was tepco told the government there is an emergency situation.

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10:38 Sunday- Kyodo quotes TEPCO as saying radiation levels have risen above safe limits around the complex and that the firm has informed the government of an "emergency situation". It did not mean an immediate threat to human health, TEPCO says

hardly a state of emergency declaration and not an official one as released by a government.

you can continue to try and make this about me or you can see that we are not being given viable information.

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

regardless of what news sources i have access to, the problem is not me or the news, it's the japanese government.

don't be ridiculous. that has zero to do with the topic. and i can assure you, i'd approve of international law that requires an inspection such as i am suggesting.

I was merely correcting what I saw as an inaccuracy in your post.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

I was merely correcting what I saw as an inaccuracy in your post.

you might want to change your style then and stop assuming you are right and others are wrong.

or just shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you are yapping about.

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you might want to change your style then and stop assuming you are right and others are wrong.

or just shut the fuck up if you don't know what the fuck you are yapping about.

Tell me what I got wrong?

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 12:06 PM

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Tell me what I got wrong?

srsly?

dude said state of emergency declared today

i said no, that's not what happened today.

you said yes, it was just reported and you raised the question about my news sources. <- that's wrong.

there was no state of emergency declared today and my news sources are more than adequate.

MaDalton · 03-13-2011, 12:07 PM

the problem seems to be: no power, no controls and you can't look into the steel mantle of the reactor. they have no clue whats going on in there, they can just try to cool it down from the outside and hope that this is working. no one tried that before.

ottopottomouse · 03-13-2011, 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you can make this about me all you want

You're making it about you - seem mega touchy for some reason.

A lot of the conflicting opinions in Japan are likely to be because not many people are going to think "oooh a possible nuclear disaster, I must go and have a proper close-up look". Far safer to theorise from a distance.

theking · 03-13-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

oh and for the record, what happened today was tepco told the government there is an emergency situation.

hardly a state of emergency declaration and not an official one as released by a government.

you can continue to try and make this about me or you can see that we are not being given viable information.

I really cannot understand why you think you are not being given viable information.

Some radiation has been released into the atmosphere and some people are being treated for radiation exposure while thousands of others have been evacuated from the area...as the Japanese fight to prevent a total meltdown in up to three facilities. What do you find to be not viable?

marketsmart · 03-13-2011, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you might to reconsider that assumption. experts interviewed on several news reports state otherwise.

i understand the voluntary nature of some interntational laws and my comment still stands.

you can make this about me all you want but the fact is this about transparency in light of what could be a major event. you might think it's unfair because america is whatever, or because jap officials tell truth but i think differently.

do you seriously think they are going to tell the truth if a catastrophe is about to happen?

the media would create widespread panic in the US just for the sake of ratings..

sometimes you have to keep things secret until the worst happens just to keep order...

if they came out and said there is a good chance they are going to have a total meltdown and the western US would be effected, you would see total chaos in the US..

if the worse case scenarios are true, you are talking about an entire shutdown of the western US and the US govt would not be able to keep any kind of order...

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dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ottopottomouse

You're making it about you - seem mega touchy for some reason.

A lot of the conflicting opinions in Japan are likely to be because not many people are going to think "oooh a possible nuclear disaster, I must go and have a proper close-up look". Far safer to theorise from a distance.

even though this is gfy, i was surprised to find myself having to defend the position of thnking it's better to have better information. i was esp. surprised to find myself arguing that point with you.

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Originally Posted by theking

I really cannot understand why you think you are not being given viable information.

Some radiation has been released into the atmosphere and some people are being treated for radiation exposure while thousands of others have been evacuated from the area...as the Japanese fight to prevent a total meltdown in up to three facilities. What do you find to be not viable/

here are just 2 quotes i found illustrating the issue.

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there were few details about what was being done to bring the situation under control.

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Edano, for his part, denied there had been a meltdown in the Fukushima Daiichi complex, but other officials said the situation was not so clear.

the lack of transparency re: what is the most catastrophic nuclear event of our lifetimes and i'm having to defend the position of wanting more accurate info.

that's gfy!

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

do you seriously think they are going to tell the truth if a catastrophe is about to happen?

the media would create widespread panic in the US just for the sake of ratings..

sometimes you have to keep things secret until the worst happens just to keep order...

if they came out and said there is a good chance they are going to have a total meltdown and the western US would be effected, you would see total chaos in the US..

if the worse case scenarios are true, you are talking about an entire shutdown of the western US and the US govt would not be able to keep any kind of order...

.

jesus fucking christ.

seeandsee · 03-13-2011, 12:29 PM

hole jp will probably go under after meltdown

loreen · 03-13-2011, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by seeandsee

hole jp will probably go under after meltdown

Just like brains here on GFY.

marketsmart · 03-13-2011, 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

jesus fucking christ.

so, i will take that as you dont agree..

if there was a complete meltdown and radiation was headed to the west coast, are you telling me you would stick around even if the amount of radiation was minimal?

.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by marketsmart

so, i will take that as you dont agree..

if there was a complete meltdown and radiation was headed to the west coast, are you telling me you would stick around even if the amount of radiation was minimal?

.

i'm saying your view is based on a worst-case scenario that is not yet the case and it also assumes the japanese gov is in cahoots with every other fucking gov on the planet and they are all keeping this worst-case scenario to themselves. AND they aren't doign anything to save themselves.

Agent 488 · 03-13-2011, 12:48 PM

radiation burns.

DWB · 03-13-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

count on worst case? i thought u didn't like gfy experts.

Who says I didn't like them? I'm in awe of how many there are.

Amputate Your Head · 03-13-2011, 12:50 PM

head east mutherfuckers.... head east.

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

srsly?

dude said state of emergency declared today

i said no, that's not what happened today.

you said yes, it was just reported and you raised the question about my news sources. <- that's wrong.

there was no state of emergency declared today and my news sources are more than adequate.

Now I see. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point then. You got it all wrong. No worries, I can see you are all worked up about something.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheDA

Now I see. Reading comprehension isn't your strong point then. You got it all wrong. No worries, I can see you are all worked up about something.

you = sad. it's too bad that when there's a crisis, people like you use it to attack others.

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 01:50 PM

yeah, it's my fault, i have reading comprehension problems, my news source is bad and it's clear the japanese gov is forthcoming:

But hours after officials announced the latest dangers to face the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, including the possibility of a second explosion in two days, there were few details about what was being done to bring the situation under control.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42056237...s-asiapacific/

dyna mo · 03-13-2011, 01:56 PM

expert states japanese government issues overly conservative statements while extending evacuation area.

yeah, that's real clear.

TheDA · 03-13-2011, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

you = sad. it's too bad that when there's a crisis, people like you use it to attack others.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

yeah, it's my fault, i have reading comprehension problems, my news source is bad and it's clear the japanese gov is forthcoming:

But hours after officials announced the latest dangers to face the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, including the possibility of a second explosion in two days, there were few details about what was being done to bring the situation under control.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42056237...s-asiapacific/

Ha.

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Originally Posted by dyna mo

dude said state of emergency declared today

i said no, that's not what happened today.

you said yes, it was just reported and you raised the question about my news sources. <- that's wrong.

What actually went down was

dude said state of emergency declared today

you said "that's been the case for days now"

I said "That one was just reported." That part is fact and was the basis of my post.

Fucking idiot.

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,437	why are we having to guess re: the situation with that nuclear reactor? why isn't there an international team that's in that facility assessing the situation and reporting shit straight up? instead we have to rely on occasional mixed reports from various jap gov agencies. that's fucked!

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dyna mo The People's Post Industry Role: Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: invisible 7-11 Posts: 65,437	yeah, it's my fault, i have reading comprehension problems, my news source is bad and it's clear the japanese gov is forthcoming: But hours after officials announced the latest dangers to face the troubled Fukushima Daiichi nuclear complex, including the possibility of a second explosion in two days, there were few details about what was being done to bring the situation under control. http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42056237...s-asiapacific/

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