Non-www or www - What do you more preffer? - GoFuckYourself.com

Klen · 02-20-2011, 01:45 PM

I just did 301 redirect from non-www to www on one domain,even i more preffer without www,but seems majority of websites uses www and some seo sites recommend usage of www to.Also what sucks with redirect from non www to www,you cant use it on CNAME redirect on DNS server so i have to use httpd server configuration for it.What do you use?

borked · 02-20-2011, 01:49 PM

I preffer better spelling - switch to FF to help ya ;)

But if it helps, non-www is my prefference

fris · 02-20-2011, 01:54 PM

non www on short domains

HandballJim · 02-20-2011, 01:56 PM

I usually use www.

grumpy · 02-20-2011, 02:00 PM

doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www

B.Barnato · 02-20-2011, 02:07 PM

depend on what type of user demographic i expect

if young internet experienced people no www

if older, easily confuse people with www they learn that www goes before domain name so i give to them so they feel safe

TheDA · 02-20-2011, 02:21 PM

majority of people I know type the 'name.com' into Google without the www.

borked · 02-20-2011, 02:22 PM

In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about

woj · 02-20-2011, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by borked

In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about

there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...

borked · 02-20-2011, 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...

hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups

---edit
and all the rest can be dealt with with a simple regex (www\.)?

woj · 02-20-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by borked

hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups

What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set?

or lets say you have a members area:
www.example.com/members/
user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

then next day types in:
example.com/members/
the login details won't be remembered anymore...

HandballJim · 02-20-2011, 03:23 PM

if your redirecting a domain with godaddy it works with both www. and no www , you can also mask the domain.

borked · 02-20-2011, 03:24 PM

beh, it's still a workaround to a fuckup in coding, pre-made or not! Just goes to show the coding wasn't URL-aware (and of course thus totally crap, wash hands of etc)

<running to recheck every cookie set ever written />
{cough} nope not guilty {/cough}

seeandsee · 02-20-2011, 03:29 PM

with www, i dont know why?!?

Zester · 02-20-2011, 03:48 PM

the www. prefix pissed me off
useless for me, I wish everyone would stop using it

Klen · 02-20-2011, 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj

What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set?

or lets say you have a members area:
www.example.com/members/
user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

then next day types in:
example.com/members/
the login details won't be remembered anymore...

Now since you mentioning software,it's kind irritating when i load ST admin and enter username/pass,then i need to enter it again because everything is on www links,so this redirect will be useful to resolve that problem.That redirect would be good on gfy too since same shit when someone post www link and you are on non www version and opposite to avoid re-login.

martinsc · 02-20-2011, 09:33 PM

i like it old fashion - with www. I would like to think that surfers prefer it...

Look Chang · 02-21-2011, 06:54 AM

Typing www[dot] looks like an obsolete redundancy to me.
BTW I am lazy too

Sid70 · 02-21-2011, 07:02 AM

www by default but i'd vote for that dropped.

cooldude7 · 02-21-2011, 07:35 AM

www.......

roly · 02-21-2011, 08:05 AM

i make sure that my links consistently all point to www but as far as the users they can go where they want.

Klen · 02-21-2011, 11:23 AM

Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.

roly · 02-21-2011, 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris

Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.

i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?

Porko · 02-21-2011, 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy

doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www

Klen · 02-21-2011, 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly

i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?

Just type in google 301 redirect yahoo penalty and you should find it

02-20-2011, 01:45 PM	#1
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Non-www or www - What do you more preffer? I just did 301 redirect from non-www to www on one domain,even i more preffer without www,but seems majority of websites uses www and some seo sites recommend usage of www to.Also what sucks with redirect from non www to www,you cant use it on CNAME redirect on DNS server so i have to use httpd server configuration for it.What do you use?

02-20-2011, 01:49 PM	#2
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borked Totally Borked Industry Role: Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 6,284	beh, it's still a workaround to a fuckup in coding, pre-made or not! Just goes to show the coding wasn't URL-aware (and of course thus totally crap, wash hands of etc) <running to recheck every cookie set ever written /> {cough} nope not guilty {/cough} __________________ For coding work - hit me up on andy // borkedcoder // com (consider figuring out the email as test #1) All models are wrong, but some are useful. George E.P. Box. p202

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02-21-2011, 11:23 AM	#22
Klen Industry Role: Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Little Vienna Posts: 32,235	Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.