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  • Klen
    • Aug 2006
    • 32234

    #1

    Non-www or www - What do you more preffer?

    I just did 301 redirect from non-www to www on one domain,even i more preffer without www,but seems majority of websites uses www and some seo sites recommend usage of www to.Also what sucks with redirect from non www to www,you cant use it on CNAME redirect on DNS server so i have to use httpd server configuration for it.What do you use?
  • borked
    Totally Borked
    • Feb 2005
    • 6284

    #2
    I preffer better spelling - switch to FF to help ya ;)

    But if it helps, non-www is my prefference

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    • fris
      I have to go potty
      • Aug 2002
      • 56015

      #3
      non www on short domains
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      • HandballJim
        Confirmed User
        • Sep 2008
        • 4024

        #4
        I usually use www.
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        • grumpy
          Too lazy to set a custom title
          • Jan 2002
          • 9870

          #5
          doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www
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          • B.Barnato
            So Fucking Banned
            • Nov 2010
            • 3618

            #6
            depend on what type of user demographic i expect

            if young internet experienced people no www

            if older, easily confuse people with www they learn that www goes before domain name so i give to them so they feel safe

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            • TheDA
              Confirmed User
              • May 2006
              • 4665

              #7
              majority of people I know type the 'name.com' into Google without the www.
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              • borked
                Totally Borked
                • Feb 2005
                • 6284

                #8
                In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

                I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about

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                (consider figuring out the email as test #1)



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                • woj
                  <&(©¿©)&>
                  • Jul 2002
                  • 47880

                  #9
                  Originally posted by borked
                  In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

                  I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about
                  there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

                  like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...
                  Last edited by woj; 02-20-2011, 01:47 PM.
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                  • borked
                    Totally Borked
                    • Feb 2005
                    • 6284

                    #10
                    Originally posted by woj
                    there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

                    like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...
                    hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
                    If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups

                    ---edit
                    and all the rest can be dealt with with a simple regex (www\.)?
                    Last edited by borked; 02-20-2011, 02:12 PM.

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                    (consider figuring out the email as test #1)



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                    • woj
                      <&(©¿©)&>
                      • Jul 2002
                      • 47880

                      #11
                      Originally posted by borked
                      hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
                      If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups
                      What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set?

                      or lets say you have a members area:
                      www.example.com/members/
                      user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

                      then next day types in:
                      example.com/members/
                      the login details won't be remembered anymore...
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                      • HandballJim
                        Confirmed User
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 4024

                        #12
                        if your redirecting a domain with godaddy it works with both www. and no www , you can also mask the domain.
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                        • borked
                          Totally Borked
                          • Feb 2005
                          • 6284

                          #13
                          beh, it's still a workaround to a fuckup in coding, pre-made or not! Just goes to show the coding wasn't URL-aware (and of course thus totally crap, wash hands of etc)

                          <running to recheck every cookie set ever written />
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                          (consider figuring out the email as test #1)



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                          • seeandsee
                            Check SIG!
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 50945

                            #14
                            with www, i dont know why?!?
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                            • Zester
                              Confirmed User
                              • Jul 2003
                              • 5344

                              #15
                              the www. prefix pissed me off
                              useless for me, I wish everyone would stop using it
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                              • Klen
                                • Aug 2006
                                • 32234

                                #16
                                Originally posted by woj
                                What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set?

                                or lets say you have a members area:
                                www.example.com/members/
                                user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

                                then next day types in:
                                example.com/members/
                                the login details won't be remembered anymore...
                                Now since you mentioning software,it's kind irritating when i load ST admin and enter username/pass,then i need to enter it again because everything is on www links,so this redirect will be useful to resolve that problem.That redirect would be good on gfy too since same shit when someone post www link and you are on non www version and opposite to avoid re-login.

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                                • martinsc
                                  Too lazy to set a custom title
                                  • Jun 2005
                                  • 27043

                                  #17
                                  i like it old fashion - with www. I would like to think that surfers prefer it...
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                                  • Look Chang
                                    Voyeur
                                    • Sep 2010
                                    • 3697

                                    #18
                                    Typing www[dot] looks like an obsolete redundancy to me.
                                    BTW I am lazy too

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                                    • Sid70
                                      Downshifter
                                      • Dec 2002
                                      • 16413

                                      #19
                                      www by default but i'd vote for that dropped.
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                                      • cooldude7
                                        Confirmed User
                                        • Nov 2009
                                        • 4306

                                        #20
                                        www.......

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                                        • roly
                                          Confirmed User
                                          • Aug 2002
                                          • 1844

                                          #21
                                          i make sure that my links consistently all point to www but as far as the users they can go where they want.

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                                          • Klen
                                            • Aug 2006
                                            • 32234

                                            #22
                                            Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.

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                                            • roly
                                              Confirmed User
                                              • Aug 2002
                                              • 1844

                                              #23
                                              Originally posted by KlenTelaris
                                              Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.
                                              i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?

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                                              • Porko
                                                SeeMyBucks.com
                                                • Sep 2002
                                                • 4014

                                                #24
                                                Originally posted by grumpy
                                                doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www

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                                                • Klen
                                                  • Aug 2006
                                                  • 32234

                                                  #25
                                                  Originally posted by roly
                                                  i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?
                                                  Just type in google 301 redirect yahoo penalty and you should find it

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