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Klen 02-20-2011 01:45 PM

Non-www or www - What do you more preffer?
 
I just did 301 redirect from non-www to www on one domain,even i more preffer without www,but seems majority of websites uses www and some seo sites recommend usage of www to.Also what sucks with redirect from non www to www,you cant use it on CNAME redirect on DNS server so i have to use httpd server configuration for it.What do you use?

borked 02-20-2011 01:49 PM

I preffer better spelling - switch to FF to help ya ;)

But if it helps, non-www is my prefference

fris 02-20-2011 01:54 PM

non www on short domains

HandballJim 02-20-2011 01:56 PM

I usually use www. :2 cents:

grumpy 02-20-2011 02:00 PM

doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www

B.Barnato 02-20-2011 02:07 PM

depend on what type of user demographic i expect

if young internet experienced people no www

if older, easily confuse people with www they learn that www goes before domain name so i give to them so they feel safe

TheDA 02-20-2011 02:21 PM

majority of people I know type the 'name.com' into Google without the www.

borked 02-20-2011 02:22 PM

In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about :2 cents:

woj 02-20-2011 02:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17928785)
In any case, does it matter? Why the hell url-redirect??? if the user tapped in www.domain.com, leave them there, if they tapped in domain.com, leave them there too....

I thing Google are aware of this, if it's content duplication you're worried about :2 cents:

there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...

borked 02-20-2011 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17928891)
there are bunch of subtle fuckups you avoid by forcing users to one or the other...

like for example, if you are not careful and set a cookie on www.example.com and someone later types in example.com the cookie won't be readable...

hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups :winkwink:

---edit
and all the rest can be dealt with with a simple regex (www\.)?

woj 02-20-2011 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by borked (Post 17928954)
hehe, thats a subtle fuckup in the coding:
If you really need non-global cookies, you set for domain.com and www.domain.com... don't blame the end user for internal fuckups :winkwink:

What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set? :winkwink:

or lets say you have a members area:
www.example.com/members/
user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

then next day types in:
example.com/members/
the login details won't be remembered anymore...

HandballJim 02-20-2011 03:23 PM

if your redirecting a domain with godaddy it works with both www. and no www , you can also mask the domain.

borked 02-20-2011 03:24 PM

beh, it's still a workaround to a fuckup in coding, pre-made or not! Just goes to show the coding wasn't URL-aware (and of course thus totally crap, wash hands of etc)

<running to recheck every cookie set ever written />
{cough} nope not guilty {/cough}

seeandsee 02-20-2011 03:29 PM

with www, i dont know why?!?

Zester 02-20-2011 03:48 PM

the www. prefix pissed me off
useless for me, I wish everyone would stop using it

Klen 02-20-2011 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by woj (Post 17928970)
What if you are using some premade software? you are supposed to fix every place where cookie is set? :winkwink:

or lets say you have a members area:
www.example.com/members/
user goes there, clicks on "remember my login details"...

then next day types in:
example.com/members/
the login details won't be remembered anymore...

Now since you mentioning software,it's kind irritating when i load ST admin and enter username/pass,then i need to enter it again because everything is on www links,so this redirect will be useful to resolve that problem.That redirect would be good on gfy too since same shit when someone post www link and you are on non www version and opposite to avoid re-login.

martinsc 02-20-2011 09:33 PM

i like it old fashion - with www. I would like to think that surfers prefer it...

Look Chang 02-21-2011 06:54 AM

Typing www[dot] looks like an obsolete redundancy to me.
BTW I am lazy too :pimp

Sid70 02-21-2011 07:02 AM

www by default but i'd vote for that dropped.

cooldude7 02-21-2011 07:35 AM

www.......

roly 02-21-2011 08:05 AM

i make sure that my links consistently all point to www but as far as the users they can go where they want.

Klen 02-21-2011 11:23 AM

Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.

roly 02-21-2011 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KlenTelaris (Post 17930692)
Just noticed how i entered into top 20 of my major keywords after 301 redirect in yahoo/bing,which means article about how yahoo/bing penalize if you dont 301 to www was correct.

i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?

Porko 02-21-2011 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by grumpy (Post 17928718)
doesnt matter what we want, ask a consumer. Ask someone you know to enter a url and 2 out of 3 will start with www

:thumbsup:thumbsup:thumbsup

Klen 02-21-2011 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by roly (Post 17930724)
i've never heard about a penalty, do you have a link to the article?

Just type in google 301 redirect yahoo penalty and you should find it


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