What does your question have to do with the price of oranges? Iraq was defeated on the field of battle and agreed to the terms of a cease fire. The US intends for Iraq to abide by the terms of the cease fire and remain a defeated country, until hell freezes over, so that it can never pose a threat to other countries in the area. Iraq does not, and never has, and never will be allowed to become a threat to our national security or our economic security, or the national security or economic security of our allies in the area and in Europe.

Clinton should have invaded Iraq when this happened. Do not fuck with the USA.

The US with other members of the coalition imposed the "No Fly Zone" when Sadam began killing the Kurds in the north and the Sheeites (spelling) in the South. The winners of a war usually impose their will on the defeated, just as we did with Germany and Japan and other members of the Axis. The US does not have to ask, nor should it ask, for UN approval for each imposition placed upon a defeated enemy. The UN is basically a debating club and for all practical purposes a useless tool of inaction.

Even the suspicion of having, or attempting to acquire, WMD's is enough to stop a dictator of the type that Sadam is. He is another "Hilter" on a smaller scale.

If you are asking for a link, I do not have one, but if you do a search you probably will find information covering this subject. It is common knowledge for anyone that pays serious attention to world events that Sadam has publically called for Americans to be killed where they are found and has re-stated this in fairly recent times.

Make no mistake about it. The US will do what needs to be done to insure the economic well being of the country and to strategically position ourselves where ever we choose.

I repeat. Make no mistake about it. The US will do what needs to be done to insure the economic well being of the country and to strategically position ourselves where ever we choose.

So how many innocent people have to die till the US government is happy?

I am not anti-american. I am anti current US foreign policy. It's totally hypocritical for the United States to espouse democracy and then completely ignore international belief in the United Nations.

For all I know Saddam Hussein has said kill-American's whereever they are. I however like to base my opinion on fact. A reference from a reputable newspaper would be reasonable evidence to me.

Isn't it nice to have a free American forum to spout that shit from? You sure the hell wouldn't get away with it there if it was the other way around would you?


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I suspect (I cannot actually predict the future) there will be hundreds of millions in the years to come. The USA will do what ever it takes to remain the richest most powerful country on the earth for the longest period of time possible. As an American I approve this policy.

The US is not now and has never been a democracy. The US is and has always been a Republic. We espouse what is considered to be in the best interests of the USA.

He has said it multiple times since 1991. If you are serious then do a serious search and you should be able to come up with the info.

I also believe there will be millions killed and I also believe a good part of those will be Americans...on OUR soil. 9/11 was nothing compared to whats about to come, we are hated now more than ever due to Bushes foreign bullshit and it will only be magnified once we attack Iraq. Even the majority of people in countries that are supposed allies think Bush and the US is out of control.

Did 9/11 not teach you anything? People fucking hate us to the point they are willing to die, and it sure the hell isnt because you have a television and they don't. Bushes and the republicans answer? Lets fuel more hatred. Hey man, I would be all for attacking Iraq if I thought something good would come from it but I firmly believe it will be the biggest mistake this country has ever made. Terrorists could EASILY (and I think will) wipe out a good part of this country and if you think taking over Iraq is going to prevent it then you are sadly mistaken.

The United States has been hated ever since we became a superpower post world war two. The hatred has continued to grow, as is to be expected, when you are the richest most powerful country on the earth. We have fought wars before, we have had loss of life before, we will continue to fight wars, and we will continue to have loss of life. If you, or our enemies, think that hatred of us, or loss of American lives will cause the US to give up its way of life, or its position as the dominate country on the earth then you and our enemies need to rethink. If you think that terroists will bring the most powerful country on the earth to its knees then you need to rethink. If we are seriously fucked with we will turn a major portion of this earth and its people into ash and glass.

well at least you admit i suppose. The insane thing is I'm sure less than half of the people in the US think the way you do, yet it's your mindset that seems to permeate the Government.

so one less fucker creates weapons. lets just sit back and let them build weapons over the next 10 years and then when he tries to take over a country even more people will die.

do you think if they just sit back with their thumb up their ass that everything will be fine and dandy?

No, but current policy seems to be "Put your thumb up everyone elses ass just enough to annoy them". Saddam should be dead, I just don't think we are going about it the right way. We missed our chance to take him out so now the US government is making a crisis up, and in the process drawing out real problems like S. Korea.

You are wrong. The over whelming majority of Americans think the way I do. The last poll that I saw 70% of Americans are in favor of invading Iraq. The Government is the people, in the sense that every two years members of the house are elected, or re-elected. Members of the Senate are elected or re-elected every six years and the President every four years. The Government is like the wind and flows with the polls. If the people frown upon a government action then the politicians change their course. Sometimes it takes a while for the government to change course, but the government ultimately flows with the will of the people, for it is the people that elect the people that compose the government.

That is a half truth. 70% are in favor IF we have the backing of the UN. Only 43% favor it if we go alone. And of those 43% it was found that a majority thought that at least one of the terrorists on 9/11 were Iraqi, they were found to be the least informed.

That is very debatable.

ABC News have 29% supporting a war without the UN weapon inspectors finding WMD.

oh yeah and as for the President less than 50% of people voted for him :-)

Do you drive a car?
Do you cook on a stove?
Do you heat/ cool your house?
Check the ingredients of the lube you use the jerk off with.
God love you left wing flower loving hippies.... but sheesh man, IF the crazy bastards are stupid enough to threaten us, lets kill more than one bird with this stone. Lets alleviate some of the strangle holds on the oil and kill some terrorists.
Don't forget, these guys committed, educated and counting on our nation to react just like your reacting.
THEY WILL attack us again; maybe his time they will use a bio or nuclear attack. SO shut the fuck up and support your damn country or move the fuck out.
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In fact there are many pollsters and different polls present different results. The polls can be biased, and in fact are, depending on who the pollster is and/or who is paying for the poll and/or what questions are asked and in what form they are asked and/or if it is a scientifically statistical oriented poll.

In most, if not all elections, a relatively small percentage of people vote, so politicicans always receive less than half of the peoples vote. In Presidential elections, because of the electoral system, Presidents can be elected without recieving a majority of the popular vote. If I recall correctly when Bill Clinton was first elected he received less than 50% of the votes cast. Non the less it is the votes of those people that care enough to follow events and have an active interest in the outcomes of elections that elect the people to positions in government, be it city, county, state or federal. This is the way of our system and always has been.

One out of every 7 barrels of oil produced in the world is consumed by US automobiles. Scary thought.

I like drunk's original statement (prior to the cliches). Reminds me of a wildfire. Let it burn, and a new forest will spring up. War is our wildfire.

Don't get me wrong I'm not for war at all, but it's like the tides, just comes and goes, can't really change it. People will always be angry.

agree with you

Typical right wing dumbass moron that doesnt have a clue.

What the fuck does cooking on a stove or heating/cooling my house have to do with oil?? The energy used for these are either natural gas or electricity...both produced by your local utility.

Thank you, God does love us, you I'm not so sure about.

Hey moron, the terrorists werent from Iraq...hello!
So you think its okay to attack because they have oil, well how about I come invade your house because I want your damn stuff, is that okay?

Listen very closely.....Iraq didnt attack us in the first place.



Thats a good little nazi, Bush must be very proud of you.
Sorry, some of us actually DARE to think for ourselves, if YOU don't like it then you can move the fuck out. :1orglaugh

I agree !







More peace in our world

It sounds like you're the one living in fear.

The paranoia is strong in you, Luke.

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Tell me when a war has logic..
Did hitler have logic when he went to war? How about the crusades? Name one war that was started for a logical reason.
Obviously we fight wars such as WWII in order to preserve freedom and our way of life, but give me a logical reason to explain the start of a war.




'Strange Game, the only winning move is not to play' - Josua 1983

Come On... you can do better than that - those are the same things the uninformed ass holes are saying and you surely aren't one of those?


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Panama?

Oh Come On..... You can do better than that! - Those are the same things the uninformed ass-holes are saying. Surely you aren't one of those?


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You're saying it's not true?

Listening to Rush Limbaugh does not make you "informed".

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sorry about that getting repeated......

A woman in a hot air balloon realized she was lost. She lowered altitude and spotted a man below. She descended a bit more and shouted , "Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an hour ago, but I don't know where I am."

The man consulted his GPS and replied, "You're are in a hot air balloon approximately 30 feet above a ground elevation of 2346 feet above sea level. You are 31 degrees, 14.97 minutes north latitude and 100 degrees, 49.09 minutes west longitude."

"You must be a republican," said the balloonist.

"I am," replied the man. "How did you know?"

"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you told me is technically correct, but I have no idea what to make of your information, and the fact is I am still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help so far."

The man responded, "You must be a democrat."

"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you are going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot air. You made a promise which you have no idea how to keep, and you expect me to solve your problem. The fact is you are in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now, somehow, it's my fault.

Isn't that a joke about Engineers vs. Marketing?

Try having an original thought for once...

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Um try no... thats the original joke. And frankly if by "own thought" you mean somthing remeniciant of the nonsense one liners you spew on this forum.... no thanks champ.

That's better.

I'll keep an eye on you from now on and see how you develop. :)

I don't believe you. Prove that statement, or shut the fuck up. :)

You are dumb. :)

Leave my thread. :)

I was intelligent untill you came in here spewing your smilies. :)

quite incorrect

make me
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well, at least I've achieved one thing today. And it's not even lunch time.

:) :)

PS. prove that statement about the joke, or shut the fuck up.

no proof = you're full of shit = I'm right :thumbsup

It s all about the money.

North Korea is the one war would be against not Iraq. But I think US is afraid of N korea...many people should die in a war against N korea. They have a 1 million strong army.


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I agree with you 100% - Bush is a MORON just like is Father.... Father like Son..... They will kill innocent children for Dollars, Shame Shame on you bush, If the Americans go to war without UN's approval, You could say hello to ww3 & so long to the adult porn business for a while:ak47:

Poor misinformed one.... I haven't listened to the radio in ages it's been twice as long since I've heard anything from Rush. - But he sure scares the hell out of your bunch doesn't he.

He seems to be your first "snappy" response when you otherwise have no ther way do defend your remarks.

To say "all Republicans like war" is so typical ---- and you lose any credibility when make such stupid, hateful, and divisive remarks.

and I'll just leave it at that with you.

please don't

instead, tell us the real reasons for war. you're obviously privy to inside knowledge.

north korea is exactly why iraq needs to be taken care of. you don't want iraq to build up over the next decade and then cause some shit in the middle east.

the US isn't afraid of north korea. if they were to go after them, south korea would get attacked for sure. who knows how many people would die.

In the last inspections, 8 years or so ago, the UN inspectors destroyed 11,000 long range and mustard gas filled shells. Didn't go in and conquer Iraq.

This time, the UN inspectors found 11 *empty* short range (4 miles) mustard gas shells. According to the US administration this is 'serious and troubling'.

Fuck' hell, there's some dumb shites around.

Oil, Oil, Oil, Oil, Oil, Oil, Oil............