Don't post stupid threads when you're drunk.

??? thats nice you have an affiliate program. You want a metal?

Nothing stupid about the thread only some of the participants. Who made you boss anway? No one forced you to read or replay so if its stupid you should not be reading these words right now... Just turn away.

another internet failure, who has succumbed to empty insults.

everyone knows you have nothing to do with this industry. it's blindingly obvious - now change the subject again, since you know you can't deal with the truth that is your pathetic life...

:1orglaugh :1orglaugh :1orglaugh

now you fucking rocket scientist?
is that all "time delay" that gots you questioning?
please tell me what is the exact time delay needed to prove to you!!

man do you know how many people actually landed on the moon?
please explain to the "MOON ROCKS" thousands of scientists have already studied these rocks and non came forward and said it was fake

man i took two astronomy classes in college and these were big topic discussions in class,,

What would the purpose of Hoaxing a moon landing be? it'll been alot easier just to go there than to produce a fake movie

Blind faith does not apply. If I did not want to live in a democracy, I would not. Heck, I would fight against it. The German people in and of themselves were a tired and starving people (much like the Iraq people are now). People in desperate times cling to desperate measures. That is one reason why the war with Iraq is not a good idea. We are not walking into a group of conscripted sunni muslims like we did 10 years ago. We are walking into a starved and desperate people.

playa is right on.... there were hundreds of rocks brought back. The moon landing was real. :1orglaugh


:thumbsup





Santa left me presents a few weeks ago.

Starved and desperate??? Compared to N Korea or much of Cuba/China/South Africa or any number of other countries. Plain and simple....we want oil... we sold them the wepons now we want to take them away along with conrol of thier governement. we already have LONG TERM plans ready for Iraq....The govt. admits that. Why should the US be making LONG TERM Plans for a country.... last I checked thats called an invasion and a take over, Not a liberation. Honestly... I hope I'm wrong.

So tell me this professor
did we really land in Mars?

were there really space probes that went around the planets,


Shit the Russians should be pissed,, they should have filmed their own moon landing first

My question is this... who gives a fuck if we landed on the moon? Does that do anything for any of us looking at this thread? NO. So why be so uptight about it?

Do we all know the true motives of this war? Yes. So why act like you are in on some conspiracy that everyone else isn't in on?

Does the government lie cheat and steal every chance they get? Yes. They do it all the time. Do you really think anyone here doesn't know this?

The real question is the why the fucktards that obsess so much over the conspiracies do so little to control them. Don't you nutcases have an array of big white buildings in Washington you could blow up or something?

C'mon... impress me bitch.

Dude.... I already admited I was bullshiting....

That was the point when getting me to say rediculous things about space travel ended.





Pornwolf - That was your 3333 post. :thumbsup

I'm just saying.... poeple should care more. maybe be a little pro active. The moon thing was just for fun.

Liberation is not the goal, from what I can gather. Hell, America is the reason the Iraq people are starving and desperate. Foreign policy has been handled like crap. It could be better, this is true, but hindsight is always 20/20. I do not agree with an assault on Iraq but I will not fight my own people if it comes down to it.

Whatever the reasons for this war may be, I just pray that our boys are unscathed and I will not be the one to say they were wrong.

And you think there wont be terrorist attacks in america after this begins??? You should be praying for you family at home not the boys overseas. The political climate is volatile..... WAAAY to volatile for this to resolve smoothly... thats why we are hesitating.

terrorism and the desire to inflict pain on others will take years and years and years to eradicate from the human race. All of the security, military, special forces, etc., in the world will not end that. Our goal is to defeat terrorism by not letting them win. We cannot forego our freedom for safety. We cannot allow a nut with a bomb destroy democracy.

All we can hope for is to take away the DESIRE for people to terrorize us. Attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, North Korea, etc., will not do away with terrorism. Hell, it will only make it worse. However, terrorism wins if we "batten down the hatches" and start shooting anyone that does not look like us.

The United States has huge military presence in Japan, Korea and Germany. That's a type of colonisation. The United States make sure it controls strategic positions that are in it's interest. Iraq has strategic interest.

Keeping Bush as a US president and your children will have many history chapters with titles like "11 september 2001".
It requires only one similar attack and they'll be no return this time.

Terrorism word is the scam of the century. Why don't you do it terrorism and communism this time?

No one is suggesting that. But what we are doing now amounts to flailing wildly at mutiple countries. ethier DO it.... or get out.... ever hear the outkast song BOB "Don't whip your thing out unless you plan to bang"

Same shit his fater did. This indecive crap, Making tension build. Fuck the UN they arent shit they dont do anything unless america tells them to. Its a joke. Theres no reason to do it in the first place.... but if you must.... get it the fuck over with.

This war is gonna have the most mdeia coverage of any war... thats about the only thing I'm looking forward to.

Man I'm almost out of wine :(

go fuck yourself


theres only two options.

1. take out radical fuckers now


2. let them get a full arsenal of long range nukes and then be in a cold war with them till the end of time.

You mean the ones like the radical capitalists have.....

live in fear you socialist shit head

Im not socialist... if you had read even half of the thread you would have realized that. Why dont you continue talking out of your ass, it seems to be working well for you.

I look at the UN as the NY branch office of the White House with a few hundred visitors seats.

BIG difference between subjugating the masses and neutralizing a counter-offensive. We have NEVER subjected any defeated country to undu hardship. Quite the opposite. We have helped establish democracies in willing conquered nations. We have not bled any opposing nation of resources and left them dry. We have established great commerce and tried to work them into world trade.

True enough. The media is craving this war like bloodthirsty vampires. I agree that if we are going to do it, we should just do it. But then again, there is much more than you and I are both aware of. Saddam cannot be just "taken out". the middle east would erupt into a bedlam of revolt. Without Saddam as a leader, unifying Iraq, the three factions inside would incite the boardering nations into upheaval.

Iraq fought against Iran for the rest of the world becuase of this problem exactly. they fought to contain the revolution of a turmoiled country. We cannot just take Saddam out. I wish we could. There are much more politics involved than we are aware. Unfortunatley, wars and politics go hand in hand.

I just can't wait untill we see the first live killings.... I'm just glued to my tv.



http://www.wiredvideo.com/public/video/gunship_video/

Killing poeple leaving a mosque is fun.

Who let the animals out of the zoo ?

Killing more than 2million civilians in Vietnam and dropping more bombs than in world war 2. Oh and how about decimating Afghanistan first time around while fighting proxy wars with the Russians?

Oh and lets not forget supporting Saddam in his war with Iran, funding and training contras in Nicuaragua.. the list goes on much longer than this..

how long have you been a GOP party spokesman?

You guys should read this book: :thumbsup

Stupid White Men

you said 'communist'

:1orglaugh

it feels like 1980 all over again

:)

Reasons for war.

#1. Iraq was defeated on the field of battle and signed certain terms. Iraq has been in violation of those terms since they signed the terms in '91. The USA has demanded that those terms be complied with and that Iraq remain a defeated country.

#2. Iraq attempted to assasinate a former American President.

#3. Iraq has fired upon, almost daily, for almost 11 years, USA military forces.

#4. Iraq is believed to have, or are acquiring, or are attempting to acquire WMD's. The USA will not allow that.

#5. Iraq has, on multiple occassions called for Americans, to be killed where ever they are found. Thus they are a sworn enemy of the USA.

#6. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for future military operations against our enemies in the region, which number in the 100's of millions.

#7. Iraq is a strategic piece of real estate for its oil fields and for the surrounding oil fields, for as the worlds oil supplies dwindle the USA will be in a position to control the dwindling oil supplies for its use and the use of its European allies.

#8. A take over of Iraq sends a very powerful signal to the other countries in that area of the world that if they don't get their act together they will be next.

Any one of the reasons above is a reason for war. Any questions?

Why do you think they left Saddam in power before, do you think they left him in power because he was a great leader to his people?

Of course not people we all know this...

They left him in power to stabilize the oil prices and keep Opec from blasting the prices through the roof after the war.

Plain and simple the US is in the middle east to protect their oil prices... Do you really think they care about the human factor?

Lets not all buy what CNN feeds us people :winkwink:

DH

Totally agree ... And they did the same when Irak invaded Kuweit: they fought against Irak for economic reasons. And when Irak stop invasion and returned into its country, USA Plain and simple gave up Kuweit and Irak civil...
This time, it's the same. Black Gold is the center of interest, and disarmament of Irak is a pretext.

Sounds like you've had your daily feed of the Bush Administrations bullshit fed to you on a hot steaming plate.

REAL reasons for war:

1. Bush has failed miserably in both handling the economy and tracking down terrorists (and everything else for that matter), he perceives a war with Iraq as an easy win and a diversion.

2. Oil.

3. Avenge his fathers fuckups.

4. Republicans love war.

Just so none of you out there read Monkeyman's bullshit and believed it. Please take a second to read the following.

America did land on the moon after all.

http://www.uwgb.edu/dutchs/PSEUDOSC/...ototheMoon.htm

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/tv/foxapollo.html

http://www.badastronomy.com/bad/misc/apollohoax.html


And the mere fact that 10,000's do believe this shit about Nasa never going to the moon is kinda sad. They think that Nasa spending 100 billion dollars going to the moon with 100,000's of employee's and contractors hired and then ooops they threw this tape together and we didn't bother to turn the air conditioning off and the flag was waving, we forgot about all the bad lighting oops. I mean Nasa has billions to spend if they did want to make a fake moon landing you'd be sure they'd bloody do it right.

If they didn't take over part of German then ALL of germany would be fucked today cause the damn russians would of controled all of germany just like they did East germany. The USA protected and helped prosper the germans and there country is again great thanks to there enemy who defeated them.

The Japanese attacked USA the Japanese lost and the USA now have troops there. The Japanese don't need to spend money on Armies or military they are 100% protected by the USA just by having some USA bases. Nobody is going to fuck with Japan cause it means fucking with the USA and there troops stationed there.

The S koreans hate the USA bases in there country and hate the Americans. But if the Americans leave then North Korea will shell the living fuck out of S korea, maybe nuke it if S korea fights back big time and now you have a united Korea run by a crazy Despot.

Are the Americans the bad guys here? nope, they are the global peace keepers and they should take out Saddam, now is the time, if they don't do it now then Saddam will eventually get Nukes and then you can't touch him. Just look at North Korea you can't go near them now because of the weapons they possess. Do you really want IRAQ to have nukes? What happens when N korea gets missles that can reach the USA and maybe sells that technology too IRAQ. Just before Saddam dies on his death bed he fires off 10 nukes at the USA??? Who knows whats possible.

All eight points are points of fact, and any one of the points is a reason for taking control of Iraq. Combine the 8 points and you have an over whelming reason for taking control of Iraq.

Questions for theking


1. What has Iraq done since 1991 that could be construed to affect US national security?

2. So American President tried to assassinate him, hardly a good reason for a war.

3. Well the US is flying over Iraqi airspace, I bet if Iraqi planes were flying over the US they wouldn't stay in the air very
long. The no-fly zones are NOT part of any UN resolution.

4. Well yes, but some evidence would be good. It would give some justification.

5. Do you have a reference for this? Sure Iraq says if they are invaded they will kill invaders, fair enough

6,7,8: yes, but just furthers evidence of US imperialism

What the US lacks is good public relations. Cheney, Rummsfeld and Bush are just so Gung Ho. If they were more like Powell they'd get a lot more support and be able to push through their plans with a bit more credibility. Their actions show they just don't care about what the rest of the world thinks, so the rest of the world will/does resent them

MonkeyMan & DrunkMonkey Socialism Tag Team v1.0 Beta

"What is war good for absolutely nothing"

At this point we dont need no fuken war....
but 60 years ago we need fuken war to straight
rich muther fukers out... bitch!